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Title: Unused scenes in known movies.
Post by: Svengoolie 3 on May 18, 2019, 11:57:40 PM
In jaws the original scene of the boy on the invaded raft being eaten was far more graphic,  it was later replaced with a far less graphic one.

(https://bloody-disgusting.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/jaws-deleted-death.jpg)


Title: Re: Unused scenes in known movies.
Post by: Svengoolie 3 on May 19, 2019, 12:00:12 AM
In the blob Steve(n)  McQueen describes what he saw happen to the doctor in the window.

The actual scene was filmed but not used as it was too horrific.

(http://www.monsterbashnews.com/pics/blob-deletedscene.jpg)


Title: Re: Unused scenes in known movies.
Post by: Svengoolie 3 on May 19, 2019, 12:06:02 AM
This image was used to promote star trek 2 the wrath of khan. Itwas not used in the movie and note the nebula is far less heavy than the one in the movie,  and the phasers look somewhat different than the rapid pulse ones used in the movie.

(https://herocollector.com/uploads/media/Reliant-Wrath-of-Khan.jpg)


Title: Re: Unused scenes in known movies.
Post by: The Burgomaster on May 19, 2019, 11:45:46 AM
There are too many to list, but here are a few:

* GODFATHER and GODFATHER PART II had several scenes that were cut from the theatrical versions, but restored for the re-edited TV version ("The Complete Novel for Televison")

* Al Adamson's DRACULA VS. FRANKENSTEIN has a different ending than the one that was originally shot. Both endings are on the DVD.

* VANISHING POINT has a scene with Charloette Rampling that was cut from the U.S. theatrical version. You can see it on the DVD.

* Sam Peckinpah's original cut of THE OSTERMAN WEEKEND was longer than the theatrical release (including a longer opening sequence). You can see the longer version on the DVD, but the quality isn't great and, if I remember correctly, it has a digital timer running on the corner of the screen.

* FATAL ATTRACTION had a scene of Glenn Close cutting her own throat that was replaced for the theatrical release.




Title: Re: Unused scenes in known movies.
Post by: claws on May 19, 2019, 11:59:04 AM
The trailer for Tom Holland's The Temp (1993) is full of scenes not appearing in the movie. According to IMDb Paramount went through management changes while The Temp was in production/filming. Holland was forced to shoot new scenes, and Faye Dunaway demanded a new ending that showed her being "less evil." The director's cut was more of a horror film. The "studio version" is more of a thriller.


Title: Re: Unused scenes in known movies.
Post by: Alex on May 19, 2019, 12:21:06 PM
In Deep Blue Sea the female scientist originally survived. Test audiences were heard chanting "Kill the b***h" when she is in the water so a new ending was filmed.

The original King Kong had scenes where the crew were attacked by giant insects but this was removed as it was felt it took attention away from Kong.


Title: Re: Unused scenes in known movies.
Post by: Trevor on May 20, 2019, 04:25:36 AM
In Deep Blue Sea the female scientist originally survived. Test audiences were heard chanting "Kill the b***h" when she is in the water so a new ending was filmed.

While I wouldn't have gone that far to chant that, Saffron Burrows' character was really not nice in that film.


Title: Re: Unused scenes in known movies.
Post by: RCMerchant on May 20, 2019, 01:57:03 PM
This scene, with Chaney dead at his organ, is not seen in the PHANTOM OF THE OPERA (1925)

(https://i.imgur.com/JA551bj.jpg) (https://lunapic.com)


Title: Re: Unused scenes in known movies.
Post by: RCMerchant on May 20, 2019, 01:59:54 PM
In Deep Blue Sea the female scientist originally survived. Test audiences were heard chanting "Kill the b***h" when she is in the water so a new ending was filmed.

The original King Kong had scenes where the crew were attacked by giant insects but this was removed as it was felt it took attention away from Kong.

The also removed the giant spider scene.
And where Kong falls from the Empire State Building. I seen photos of that- I'll try to dig one up.

And of Kong randomly stomping and chewing natives. (though I believe most of that has been restored).


Title: Re: Unused scenes in known movies.
Post by: RCMerchant on May 20, 2019, 02:09:50 PM
I found it!
KING KONG (1933)

(https://i.imgur.com/17pCcG1.jpg) (https://lunapic.com)


Title: Re: Unused scenes in known movies.
Post by: RCMerchant on May 20, 2019, 02:22:54 PM
Now restored, of Karloff throwing the little girl in the lake in FRANKENSTEIN (1931).
Also in FRANKENSTEIN- where Colin Clive's done screamin, about "It's ALIVE!", he says "In the name of God! Now I know what it feels like to be God!!"


(https://i.imgur.com/iwTTkwb.jpg) (https://lunapic.com)


(https://i.imgur.com/JvWJrdt.jpg) (https://lunapic.com)

(https://i.imgur.com/CM3skwh.gif) (https://lunapic.com)



Title: Re: Unused scenes in known movies.
Post by: Gabriel Knight on May 20, 2019, 04:09:22 PM
AFAIK they used the giant tick from King Kong for another movie, I believe it was The Black Scorpion. Not the same scene but the same prop, mind you. It's kinda cool knowing that at least the effect was used somewhere else.


Title: Re: Unused scenes in known movies.
Post by: Svengoolie 3 on May 20, 2019, 04:47:08 PM
Now restored, of Karloff throwing the little girl in the lake in FRANKENSTEIN (1931).
Also in FRANKENSTEIN- where Colin Clive's done screamin, about "It's ALIVE!", he says "In the name of God! Now I know what it feels like to be God!!"


I kinda had a flashback to that  scene long  ago when I got my first PC running. I remember hitting the power button and seeing th bootup start and it was like "IT'S ALIVE! IT'S ALIVE!"


Title: Re: Unused scenes in known movies.
Post by: LilCerberus on May 20, 2019, 05:08:58 PM
Most versions of Mad Max (1979) have the dispatcher trying to hail Goose  with the camera panning across the front grill of a low rider pick up truck.
I've this once, and only once, on a VHS rental in Houston, wherein the camera starts at the spoiler on the back, then pans across the painting of the naked lady on the rear fender, then around to the front, and apparently, this was the only video store that ever had a copy of it, as no one else has ever heard of it.....

Not even this guy.
https://www.madmaxmovies.com/mad-max/filming-locations/mad-max-cut-scenes/index.html (https://www.madmaxmovies.com/mad-max/filming-locations/mad-max-cut-scenes/index.html)


Title: Re: Unused scenes in known movies.
Post by: zombie no.one on May 20, 2019, 05:46:55 PM
all of the deleted scenes in ALPHA PAPA which feature Alan Partridge are either as funny or funnier than anything in the proper movie...

in SHAUN OF THE DEAD they filmed a whole (mock) interview with Coldplay, and only used about 2 seconds of it in the film.


Title: Re: Unused scenes in known movies.
Post by: RCMerchant on May 21, 2019, 12:04:00 AM
Lon Chaney wrestles a bear in the WOLF MAN (1941), but you won't see it, because it was cut from the film when it was released to TV in the 1950's.
So I guess it was used-but now gone...

(https://i.imgur.com/aMjrBOi.jpg) (https://lunapic.com)


Title: Re: Unused scenes in known movies.
Post by: Archivist on May 21, 2019, 05:54:21 AM
In X-Men First Class (2011), Erik (pre Magneto) storms a building, and magnetically causes a guard's watch to contract painfully around his wrist. This scene never made it to the movie.

http://youtu.be/UrbHykKUfTM?t=72 (http://youtu.be/UrbHykKUfTM?t=72)


Title: Re: Unused scenes in known movies.
Post by: Alex on May 21, 2019, 07:29:48 AM
In Leon The Professional, a lot of footage of Matilda trying to seduce Leon was cut out. Having seen those scenes I think they made the right decision. It makes for very uncomfortable viewing.


Title: Re: Unused scenes in known movies.
Post by: Trevor on May 21, 2019, 07:40:32 AM
In Ronin (1998), there was an unused scene where Natasha McElhone's character is kidnapped by the IRA - her employers - dragged away to a car and presumably killed: I'm glad that scene was never used for the ending as that would have put a damper on a great film.

(https://www.hotflick.net/flicks/1998_Ronin/tn300/998RON_Natascha_McElhone_009.jpg)


Title: Re: Unused scenes in known movies.
Post by: Archivist on May 21, 2019, 08:32:52 AM
In Leon The Professional, a lot of footage of Matilda trying to seduce Leon was cut out. Having seen those scenes I think they made the right decision. It makes for very uncomfortable viewing.

Funny, I didn't see it as trying to seduce him, more like she was attempting to engage him emotionally in a way that was outside of her age-related ability to do. It might sound like semantics, but it's not. She's not trying to get him into bed by giving him come-hither eyes, she's playing with him and trying to get closer to the person she thinks is a saviour and role model, using the actions of a young girl who hasn't developed the maturity to know what she's doing.


Title: Re: Unused scenes in known movies.
Post by: RCMerchant on May 21, 2019, 05:30:27 PM
A gory scene not seen in ONE MILLION BC (1940)

(https://i.imgur.com/5HawTyo.jpg) (https://lunapic.com)


Title: Re: Unused scenes in known movies.
Post by: Svengoolie 3 on May 21, 2019, 07:41:04 PM
A gory scene not seen in ONE MILLION BC (1940)

(https://i.imgur.com/5HawTyo.jpg) (https://lunapic.com)

Damn!  That's more graphic than a lot of modem injury scenes in movies!


Title: Re: Unused scenes in known movies.
Post by: Archivist on May 21, 2019, 10:23:03 PM
In Ronin (1998), there was an unused scene where Natasha McElhone's character is kidnapped by the IRA - her employers - dragged away to a car and presumably killed: I'm glad that scene was never used for the ending as that would have put a damper on a great film.

(https://www.hotflick.net/flicks/1998_Ronin/tn300/998RON_Natascha_McElhone_009.jpg)

Yikes, I didn't know about that ending. It would not have been cool.


Title: Re: Unused scenes in known movies.
Post by: Svengoolie 3 on May 21, 2019, 10:32:41 PM
In "the thing" (1982) Bennings was going to be killed by the thing after the surviving dogs escaped and macready,  Bennings and childs realized at least one had least be a Thing and went after them on snowmobile with flamethrowers.

After finding a place where one dog was killed and eaten by the other two,  proving they we're Things, the three men were  attacked by the Things  and Bennings was attacked and partially assimilated before MacReady destroyed the thing and him with a flamethrower.

The scene was not done  due to time and budget restraints.


Title: Re: Unused scenes in known movies.
Post by: Archivist on May 21, 2019, 10:38:58 PM
Expanding on Leon The Professional, I think looking at the personality of the characters helps explain those deleted scenes. Leon, despite being a very proficient killer, is also bound by honour and is in some ways socially and emotionally naive. He doesn't display the worldliness of Gary Oldman's character; he has a kind of purity which makes him more like a child than adult. He talks about how he wants to give it all up, to enjoy simple things like sleeping in a bed rather than sitting in an armchair with a loaded gun beside him. His employers mostly exploit his ability to kill and don't give him emotional kudos, whereas he finds a strange and socially worrisome connection with a young girl. He becomes her ward and protector after the death of her family.

Matilda is different. She shows herself to have maturity, from her presence of mind in walking past her family's apartment and going to Leon's door, but is still at that grey area where teenage girls find themselves in an innocent puppy love, but don't know how to handle it. So they behave in silly ways to emotionally engage someone, attempting to mimic what their uninformed perspectives think will work. She's also in the position of being attached to someone who saved her from a traumatic situation.

There's a lot of nuance to the characters of Leon and Matilda, now that I think about it. The international and US cuts of the film removed the scenes of emotional connection, likely because it would offend someone. In today's political climate, it would be even worse.


Title: Re: Unused scenes in known movies.
Post by: Trevor on May 22, 2019, 01:18:34 AM
In Ronin (1998), there was an unused scene where Natasha McElhone's character is kidnapped by the IRA - her employers - dragged away to a car and presumably killed: I'm glad that scene was never used for the ending as that would have put a damper on a great film.

(https://www.hotflick.net/flicks/1998_Ronin/tn300/998RON_Natascha_McElhone_009.jpg)

Yikes, I didn't know about that ending. It would not have been cool.

It's on the DVD I have: I don't know what the BluRay has.

Those shots were meant to be used as cutaways in the final sequence where Jean Reno and Robert DeNiro are having coffee in the same cafe which we saw in the film and Sam says "She would not be coming back here, would she." Meanwhile, she's actually outside, goes to her car and gets kidnapped by the IRA.  :buggedout:


Title: Re: Unused scenes in known movies.
Post by: pacman000 on May 23, 2019, 11:50:49 PM
Star Wars (1977) originally had scenes of Luke meeting his friends on Tatooine. Luke see the battle between the blockade runner & the star destroyer via his binoculars, & he describes it to his friends, who don't believe him. Then Biggs tells Luke he's going to join the rebellion. These scenes were in the novel, & they were filmed.

There was also a scene with Jaba the Hutt, restored for the special edition. Janna was played by a human, but by 1997 computers could erase & replace him.


Title: Re: Unused scenes in known movies.
Post by: Trevor on May 30, 2019, 06:07:08 AM
In Ronin (1998), there was an unused scene where Natasha McElhone's character is kidnapped by the IRA - her employers - dragged away to a car and presumably killed: I'm glad that scene was never used for the ending as that would have put a damper on a great film.

(https://www.hotflick.net/flicks/1998_Ronin/tn300/998RON_Natascha_McElhone_009.jpg)

Yikes, I didn't know about that ending. It would not have been cool.

It's on the DVD I have: I don't know what the BluRay has.

Those shots were meant to be used as cutaways in the final sequence where Jean Reno and Robert DeNiro are having coffee in the same cafe which we saw in the film and Sam says "She would not be coming back here, would she." Meanwhile, she's actually outside, goes to her car and gets kidnapped by the IRA.  :buggedout:

I should just add that the IRA didn't succeed in their mission because Natasha McElhone was on my flight from Cape Town to Johannesburg a few years ago.  :smile:


Title: Re: Unused scenes in known movies.
Post by: RCMerchant on May 30, 2019, 12:57:55 PM
In the SECRET LIFE OF WALTER MITTY (1947) Danny Kaye dreams about the Frankenstein Monster- played by Karloff! It was never used.
Here's Karloff in the make-up for that film!

(https://i.imgur.com/7ZZ8qKK.jpg) (https://lunapic.com)


Title: Re: Unused scenes in known movies.
Post by: PrettyTorius on May 30, 2019, 09:01:34 PM
Denzel's 'Man on Fire' has a half hour of deleted scences that make the film very different, including a very different ending.

Great movie both ways.


Title: Re: Unused scenes in known movies.
Post by: Trevor on May 31, 2019, 01:50:30 AM
Expanding on Leon The Professional, I think looking at the personality of the characters helps explain those deleted scenes. Leon, despite being a very proficient killer, is also bound by honour and is in some ways socially and emotionally naive. He doesn't display the worldliness of Gary Oldman's character; he has a kind of purity which makes him more like a child than adult. He talks about how he wants to give it all up, to enjoy simple things like sleeping in a bed rather than sitting in an armchair with a loaded gun beside him. His employers mostly exploit his ability to kill and don't give him emotional kudos, whereas he finds a strange and socially worrisome connection with a young girl. He becomes her ward and protector after the death of her family.

Matilda is different. She shows herself to have maturity, from her presence of mind in walking past her family's apartment and going to Leon's door, but is still at that grey area where teenage girls find themselves in an innocent puppy love, but don't know how to handle it. So they behave in silly ways to emotionally engage someone, attempting to mimic what their uninformed perspectives think will work. She's also in the position of being attached to someone who saved her from a traumatic situation.

There's a lot of nuance to the characters of Leon and Matilda, now that I think about it. The international and US cuts of the film removed the scenes of emotional connection, likely because it would offend someone. In today's political climate, it would be even worse.

My fave sequence in that movie is where Jean Reno hands Gary Oldman something, dies, Oldman opens his hand, finds a grenade pin, opens Reno's jacket, sees the grenades, goes "Sh it!" and goes kablooiey.  :teddyr:


Title: Re: Unused scenes in known movies.
Post by: Alex on May 31, 2019, 03:32:22 AM
Expanding on Leon The Professional, I think looking at the personality of the characters helps explain those deleted scenes. Leon, despite being a very proficient killer, is also bound by honour and is in some ways socially and emotionally naive. He doesn't display the worldliness of Gary Oldman's character; he has a kind of purity which makes him more like a child than adult. He talks about how he wants to give it all up, to enjoy simple things like sleeping in a bed rather than sitting in an armchair with a loaded gun beside him. His employers mostly exploit his ability to kill and don't give him emotional kudos, whereas he finds a strange and socially worrisome connection with a young girl. He becomes her ward and protector after the death of her family.

Matilda is different. She shows herself to have maturity, from her presence of mind in walking past her family's apartment and going to Leon's door, but is still at that grey area where teenage girls find themselves in an innocent puppy love, but don't know how to handle it. So they behave in silly ways to emotionally engage someone, attempting to mimic what their uninformed perspectives think will work. She's also in the position of being attached to someone who saved her from a traumatic situation.

There's a lot of nuance to the characters of Leon and Matilda, now that I think about it. The international and US cuts of the film removed the scenes of emotional connection, likely because it would offend someone. In today's political climate, it would be even worse.

My fave sequence in that movie is where Jean Reno hands Gary Oldman something, dies, Oldman opens his hand, finds a grenade pin, opens Reno's jacket, sees the grenades, goes "Sh it!" and goes kablooiey.  :teddyr:

I love that film. For me though, it is one of those ones where the cuts that were made do actually improve it and the directors cut was not the better movie (other examples include Alien. For example the cut scene where Ripley finds Dallas and Brett just didn't work for me).