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Someone said something interesting me in a far-fetched way. She said she thinks "now that gays have achieved acceptance" that pedophiles are next in line, and that the recent upsurge in stories about Michael Jackson's alleged sexuality are not unintentional but part of an effort to ease society into thinking "well I liked Michael and if he was a pedophile maybe pedophiles aren't so bad." She laid out a (prediction) case that this is going on and in the '20s there will be a push to make pedophiles the next group to gain societal approval.

I don't know that she's right but the more I listened and thought about it the less implausible it began to seem since there will always be a desire out there to push back the boundaries of what is tolerated.

I don't think I'd want to live in a culture that allowed children to become sexual targets.

NAMBLA's been around since the early '90s, and they've got all kinds of BS to justify their perversion.
I wouldn't knock it.
I'll bet their next move would be to start a legal fund for all the minors (peer on peer) who go to jail for sexting.

Wait...what...a minor can go to jail for sexting another minor? (That's like sending nude pics, right?)

Nah.
I have more faith in the human race than I appear to.
There are too many good people in this world.

As far as teens 'Sexting'- that's just a modern version of teenagers doing "I'll show you mine if you show me yours".
Adults who try to f**k kids. They should be hung by the neck until dead.

NAMBLA's been around longer than that.  Fnck 'em. 

Yeah, and the people of California voted against gay marriage.
A federal judge with a transparent agenda said the people weren't smart enough to make that decision.

And if teenagers get caught doing that, they can go to jail for production, distribution & possession of child pornography.

Gosh.

Well in america we have constitution el rights that can't be violated even if the najoroity want to. Basically 51% of american can't vote to enslave 49% due to basic rights that are inviolable.

It took a while but america finally realized marriage is a right that all are entitled to even if a majority don't like it.

It's  funny how the right claims a majority vote is enough to ban same sex marriage and that doing so is a state right but when the majority  of americans vote for a democrat president the majority vote doesn't matter and when a state legalizses marijuana it doesn't have the right to.

I get the spirit of what you're saying but the constitution also mandates that states  handle the making of all laws that do not specifically fall under federal jurisdiction, and the constitution says nothing about marriage and to my knowledge there has never been a federal marriage license. Marriage has always been under the jurisdiction of individual states, so for the federal government to step in and claim constitutional authority over marriage strikes a lot of people as out of bounds.

Do I dislike homosexual marriage? No. Do I think there is too much judicial activism? Well, I do when I don't like the ruling.  (How's that for candor?)

PS Are you sure you mean "all" are entitled to marriage? Even a pedophile marrying a child? Or a parent marrying an offspring? Don't you think there should be some limits?

This is exactly why, if a large enough minority says a specific form of evil is "Not really BAD", then the subject is not only possible, but plausible.

Let me point out that the Virginia and New York are now discussing medically legalized infanticide, which I'm old enough to remember would've been something out some really bad sci-fi movie.
You may want to point out the states that have banned abortions or tried to since January of this year, which may be out of panic, maybe not, but I'm thoroughly convinced was a well intentioned effort to prevent mankind from going over the edge.

Gay marriage isn't evil. Being gay doesn't equate to being a pedophile. A lot of this sort of thing has been traced to Russian trolls deliberately spreading lies to moment hate and division in america.

No, of course it isn't.
But let me reiterate, the subject of infanticide, which would've been unthinkable in some '70s b-movie about an overpopulated Earth, is now being openly discussed by pro-choice lawmakers in New York and Virginia.
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So a few extremists make a few outrageous proposals and suddenly all democrats believe it?  Why is it when I point out that some religious types advocate extremism and violence I get told they're just a fee nuts,  but if a single gay,  or democrat,  or liberal,  does or says anything heinous suddely the whole left is painted with that brush?

I'm  a leftist and proud. I oppose vehemently any form of pedophilia. I support abortion rights because I believe no man shouildbe able tofmorce a woman to go thru with pregnancy until men can get pregnant and thru history women have been subjugated by men, it's time for them to have freedom.

I'm  against "infanticide".

A lot of arguments against the left are based on reductio ad absurdum, I. E.  If you believe a reasonable point of view that disagrees with mine, you must then support it to an utterly absurd degree.

Example. Me: I support the right of consenting adults to marry someone of the same sex.

Right winger: THEN YOU SUPPORT MARRYING CHILDREN AND ANIMALS!

Me: No, I don't.

RW: THEN YOUR VIEWS ARE INCONSISTENT AND HYPOCRITICAL AND THEREFORE INVALID!

Me: Xxxx you.

RW: I WIN THE ARGUMENT!


Yes there are some leftist views i don't  support. I stay with the left because on most issues I agree with them. I am not a drone,  I have not been assimilated by a leftist collective, I do not groupthink.

It was my understanding that the original question behind this thread was whether or not we could reach a point in which pedophiles could gain societal approval.

My point is that I've enough signs over the past decade or so, that it's not unlikely for someone (most likely, the few, the elite, the snobs) to make a genuine & fruitful effort to start pushing society in that general direction.

I site the examples that I do, because there was a time when both conservatives & liberals didn't think society would end up in the state it's in.

"And when Alexander saw the breadth of his domain, he wept for there were no more worlds to conquer."

I ain't saying it's good or should be legal. I'm just saying it's a fact. Adults gave the technology to our children- and we flood it with easily accesable porn.
They learn from US. WE have to clean up our act.

I think the right and left have gone too far in america. I believe hostile foreign powers havfe recentky gotten into this trend. I nbeliebe big business has deliberately demonized the left because Sthe left favors things that are good for most people but are not so good for cororoate profits.

I stay with the left as I agree with it on far more issues than I do with the right. There are very,  very few issues I agree with the right on. I agree with the left on most issues,  not all.

One thing we ued o hear about was "godless communism". Personally I think the biggest threat to america may be godless capitalism which os alive and well and growing like the blob in america.

If you want to see unfettered,  unrestrained capitalism, look at china. In china capitalism has conquered communism. The vast majority of people in china are simply property of their employers and live in virtual slavery in factory complexes so horrible they need to install suicide nets to stop peolel from leaping tom tbne release of death.

And those are not the  official slaves, those are in the prison complexes.


China went from godless communism to godless capitalism and now even the organs of human beings who dissent frommthe stare are commoddites to be monitized for the profit of the government corporate power structure.

Benito mussolini wasn't the brightest bulb on the tree but he had one thing right. He said that fascism was the fusion of government a d coproate power to completely dominate the people.


“Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power”

The thing is in america people have Been  indoctrinated by corporate  media to believe that any form of government limits on business is socialism and socialism is the ultimate evil.

Guess what? Americas best days were  after ww2 when we had big time socialism. We had the new deal that limited wall street and banks ability to make mony no matter what it did to most people. We had largre,  strong unions. We had profit caps and high taxes on big business.

(https://images.dailykos.com/images/653675/story_image/1429ckCOMIC-socialists-from-the-future.png?1552523889)

Forget "big gubmint".  What's taking your freedom, crushing your future and turning you into a peasant laborer is Big Business.

It's ironic to see so many on the right who used to wail and scream about godless communism now completely for godless capitalism. Jesus beat the money lenders out if the temple and cured the sick for free if you believe the bible. But when we propose u iversal healthcare the people who think gay marriage should be illegal because of the bible then scream about socialism.

Your Jesus showed a lot of socialism, healing the sick, feeding the hungry, telling people to give money to the poor. Do you think he's  be lobbying for taxcuts for billionaires or working in a soup kitchen today?

Godless,  soulless, heartless, inhuman capitalism is the biggest threat we have today, and itcs keepojng the right and left fighting each other over gay marriage and transgender bathrooms to get higher and fight it.

I want to see big business controlled and bbewten down from itcs current level of control over americans economy,  lives and futures. I donct want to hoist a hammer and and over the white house.  I want to let adults marry the adult that   they mutually choose to.  I don't  want to force anyone to gay marry their dog in a ceremony presides over by a satanic priest. I want to get government out of the bedroom and into boardroom because too much unregulated corporate power is an existential threat to personal freedom and two people ofm the same gender doing each other isn't.


Just because i'm a lefty doesn't mean I want to communize america anymore than being christian means indy goes to dead gay people's funerals and screams "god hates  fags!" at their families.

I hope I got through to some people here now,  I really do. Big business and it's media has americans fighting each other over bathrooms and weddings while it eats our country, our govenement,  our rights, our futures and out children's futures.

Where's the hue and cry over godless capitalism?

It might surprise you to know one of the fiercest critics of what you term Godless capitalism has been the Catholic Church, with several popes encouraging distributism over capitalism or communism. GK Chesterton wrote extensively on the subject.

PS Jesus didn't attack money lenders, he attacked (the tables of) money changers. I've always thought when the raptures comes Western Union better be on its toes.

Most versions of that I saw showed his literally going at  people with a flail.

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I also kmow the current pope,  who I generally have a surpringly favorable view towards, has castigated headless profiteering. It was amazing to see how quick the deication to the idea of papal infalliability collapsed right about then...

Maybe he just got ripped off and he was p**sed?

Dammit RC! You have no idea how much I want to karma you for that!

They didn't have cameras then so you couldn't have seen it happen, who knows how much Our Lord 'n Savior lost his s**t.

Papal infallibility doesn't mean what you seem to think it means, and believe me, after thirteen years of Catholic school I could recite Vatican I's definition mid-childbirth.

based on his statements I'm not sure the current Pope is actually Catholic.

Eh, It cracks me up every time I see a picture some dumb hick with a tattoo of some vague "Because the Bible Says So" statement on it, with the caption citing Leviticus 19:28......
We republicans aren't a bunch of programmed robots either....
Nor are us motorcyclists!

 

I admire POPE FRANCIS.  He has restored my hope for the Catholic church.   :thumbup:

Well he's  not perfect but some of his stances are remarkably advanced. He accepts climate change and that the wealth gap is unconscionable.

And certain groups are openly accepting pedophilia as a sexual orientation. Interesting enough, YouTube tries to cover the original video by blocking it with its algorithms, as far as this uploader explains.

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I personally believe a lot of this about making pedophilia recognized and accepted along with the infanticide bit is some sort of campaign to create more hate and division in america to create a civil war and oavfe the road for a fascist government.

Start a campaign of hate mongering, lies,  making people believe that this group or that group is a threat to them, that group has to be stopped,  contained,  removed. Hitler and company did it with the campaign against st the "useless eaters" and the jews, make the people so afraid of the others they accept a dictatorship to protect them. The dictatorship attacks the targets groups and builds up the machinery of tyranny in the process.

I just see that happening in america now. That thing trump only cares about itself, other peolel are just things for him to use, abuse, bully, crush as his whim. Putin hates america for the collpasof the cold war and saw trump has his stooge to bring it down.

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there are a lot of weirdos out there

Indeed

And considering that sentiment comes from here within BMDO, that's saying a lot.  :thumbup:

And can be labelled as sex offenders for the rest of their lives.