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Personally, I don't think Ed Wood was that bad. I mean, I've seen stinkers made with millions of dollars that are much worse that the crap good ol' Ed did. In fact, Uwe Boll makes movies like IN THE NAME OF THE KING with 60 millions, and they're nothing but pain. BRIDE OF THE MONSTER is actually an ok movie, mainly thanks to Bela and his amazing monologues, and had almost no budget.
I think Uwe Boll is more like Ed Wood because of the reputation. A lot of his movies are in the bottom end of IMDb, and if you watch them you can see why. Hell, there's even one reviewed on this very same site by Andrew, and it has a single slime.

It's funny how the bad name of that guy isn't just limited to the Internet crowd, which quickly follows every trend that comes out - Wood's included. Since Boll is very fast to pick up a video game franchise to rape with his adaptations, he contacted Blizzard during the making of WARCRAFT and their response was "We will not sell the movie rights, not to you... especially not to you". Even they knew he's terrible.

So what do you think? Is he going to be remembered like the Ed Wood of our times, and his awful, awful movies be celebrated with love for years to come, or will he be swallowed by the sands of time?

I'd say if anything-he'll be considered a real life Max Bialystock

Uncle Uwe made two movies in South Africa: 1968 Tunnel Rats (a Vietnam war film) and the emotionally devastating Darfur / Attack On Darfur: both are well worth seeing but Darfur is very violent and upsetting.

That one is on my to-watch list!

Yeah but Boll will never be remembered for those. It's House of the Dead and his boxing antics people will always remember.

The sad thing is, good though Darfur and Tunnel Rats were and are, they went straight to DVD, not to cinemas.  :thumbdown:

I don't really think it's fair to compare them because as far as I know Uwe Boll had a reasonable budget for all of his films and Ed Wood only had 1 decent sized budget for everything he directed, that being Bride of the Monster.

I consider Bride of the Monster to be a good movie. I think Plan 9 and Glen or Glenda are hilariously bad.

Everything I've seen by Uwe Boll has been junk: Alone in the Dark, House of the Dead, Blood Rayne and Postal.

Darfur / Attack On Darfur is on Youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7tmYOSCKI4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7tmYOSCKI4)

Just a warning before you click: definitely NSFW and not suitable for anyone who is easily upset. I couldn't sleep or eat after seeing it in 2010.

Wood had Bela Lugosi, Tor Johnson and Vampira.

I know Verne Troyer was in POSTAL...he told me about it in rehab. He was a nice man and had a good heart.  I still haven't watched it.

Ed seemed to have genuine passion for what he did.  Uwe not so much.

I just watched ATTACK ON DARFUR- dam. How did Uwe make that?  :question:
That's actually a terrifying movie! I couldn't sit threw parts of it without cringing or turning my head. It's so f**ked up. Some parts even made me want to cry! Dam.  :bluesad:
It's...good. But not in a fun way.

Just to clarify: I'm not comparing them, I know they're nothing alike, mainly in their passion about making movies and the resources they had at their disposal. What I'm trying to see is if Boll will achieve the "recognition", and become the same cult phenomena. Who knows, maybe in ten years he'll end up doing porn too!

I think that, if he manages to snatch a somewhat popular actor and put him in a couple of his movies, and then that actor dies, a new Ed Wood will be born. Let's be honest here: barely anybody would've known Ed today if it wasn't for the repetition of the Internet about "worst movies ever made" and stuff; perhaps Bela Lugosi fans and b-movie nerds like us, but that's about it.
Even ED WOOD by Tim Burton, regardless of its quality, is an extremely unknown movie, you will barely see it mentioned, including situations in which people talk about the director himself. In fact, I never heard of it until I saw a video made by James Rolfe.

I can imagine this very same conversation when Ed Wood was alive and making movies. People coming out of the teathers thinking that nobody would ever remember the garbage they just saw, and that, in the future, the quality of the films will only improve, especially when they start to have bigger budgets...  :tongueout:

I think ED WOOD (the movie) is  watched more than the actual films themselves.
That film is so far from the truth-ugh!  :hatred:
Good performances-Landau is fantastic and earned his Oscar. It just ain't true!

Ed had that reputation way before the internet started.  I can even remember back in the 80s seeing a PLAN 9 VHS box that referred to it as the worst movie ever made. 

Ed was known as a crazy motherf**ker back in 1953! He was considered bad back when he started.  Famous Monsters of Filmland  magazine kept his movies alive because Forry  Ackerman and Ed hung out together. Not Long. Ed was a drunk, and Forry didn't drink.
Plus he dressed up like a girl! And didn't hide it. Kinda made folks think-"YIKES!". Maila Nurmi was a beatnik (aka hippie), and Bela was an old addict who needed friends- and a job. Tor was a big hearted guy, and one of Bela's best friends.

Ed Wood 3 months before his death at he age of 54 in 1978.
RIP.

(https://i.imgur.com/1IztPyl.jpg) (https://lunapic.com)

just looked at his imdb, the only film of his I've seen is RAMPAGE. which was both good and bad at the same time, but not in a so-bad-it's-good way, if that makes sense

I tend to see ed wood in a positive light. I mean in a lot of ways he was an american success story. He had a dream, he wanted to make movies, and he didn't  let anything,  including the  fact he wasn't all that  good at  it,  stop him.

He had courage ,  drive,  ambition and refused to let anything,  even his own limited talent,  stop him from doing what he  wanted. He lved his dream.

It's easy to succeed when you've got talent. He succeeded without talent.  That's a success story!

Ed Wood actually had a passion. Uwe Boll just used video game titles he didn't care about to make s**tty movies to exploit a tax loophole in Germany.

Also, Wood's movies are more watchable. What would you rather watch, Plan 9 From Outerspace or Alone in the Dark?

No, the modern Ed Wood is not Uwe Boll. It's Neil Breen.

I think of Ed Wood as a driven man with lots of ambition but no real talent.
I admire that crazy man..he followed his dream into his grave. He never gave in to the powers that be. He was a maverick. And I thought that long before I seen that movie-which is a GOOD movie- but 98 percent bulls**t.

Ed Wood never succeded, in fact, he end up being in total poverty and doing crappy porn. We may now remember all his good side, because after all, he wasn't a bad guy, but let's not fool ourselves. The guy was, sadly, a failure. A failure with a noble dream, but a failure nevertheless.

It's actually quite hypocrite from our part if you ask me, because everyone nowadays talk wonders about him, but back when he needed to be talked about, nobody gave a quarter of a s**t.  :bluesad:


You know, I never heard of him so I made a quick search. Why all his movies have his face plastered on the cover? I gotta see them!  :bouncegiggle:

Thanks for the cool answers everyone, there's a lot of great information here.

https://youtu.be/6L4g3H_TM28

Ed wood achieved success, it was just posthumously.

BTW where did we all first  hear of ed wood?  Moi? Since you ask I'll say it was his segment on 'cheech and chong's it came from Hollywood'.

I heard of Ed Wood when I read about PLAN 9 in Famous Monsters magazine in 1970.
I seen An Ed Wood clip back in the 60's for the opening of Chiller in upstate NY.
Scared the s**t out of me.

http://youtu.be/2bozNbBD5V8 (http://youtu.be/2bozNbBD5V8)

Or Tommy Wiseau, if Wiseau would make more movies.

That's exactly why I said Breen instead of Wiseau. Also, as far as writing is concerned, The Room is nowhere near as bizarre as any of Breen's films.
That and I feel Wiseau has some level of self-awareness, which Breen ABSOLUTELY lacks.

 :buggedout:

Neil Breen's films have WRITING in them?  :wink:

Of course there's writing. I think you're just mixing up writing with LIGHTING.  :wink:

(https://i.imgur.com/pEvsNzq.png)

I just played the video for like three minutes, I'll probably finish it later. WTF did I just saw?  :buggedout:

you'll get your chance

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Shark

Big line: "Yew are tearrrring me apppaaaart, Sharky"  :wink:

You know, I don't think THE ROOM is that bad of a movie; it's just another romantic / sexual drama, they all suck anyways excepto for a specific type of viewer. Hell, I'm willing to bet that you can find worst lines and scenes in FIFTY SHADES OF GREY and yet that crap makes millions.
I think the weirdness of good ol' Tommy is what turned the movie into such a big deal.

Comparing bad movies to Fifty Shades is cheating. Falling down the stairs and breaking your leg is a better experience than watching any of the Fifty Shades films.

And yet...

Box Office
Budget:$40,000,000 (estimated)
Opening Weekend USA: $85,171,450, 15 February 2015
Gross USA: $166,167,230
Cumulative Worldwide Gross: $569,651,467

At the end, it's nothing more than marketing. If Tommy made a huge campaing and bribed a couple of s**tty critics, his movie could've made millions and earned prizes, as crappy they are.

Another film which Uncle Uwe made in South Africa: 1968 Tunnel Rats.

Definitely NSFW and also very disturbing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWtgdn59F60 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWtgdn59F60)

That hanging sequence nearly made me throw up.  :buggedout:

There's more than one?  :bluesad:

I.E.-the ROOM
NO amount of ballyhoo and $ could have made that movie less insane.
And yes- I did enjoy it on a "WTF" level.  :thumbup:

I second(third/4th?) Neil Breen. I will also throw in my hate for the genius behind Who Killed Captain Alex and the rest of Wakailiwood. When you have zero budget but you really have a vision 

I can't really see a comparison between the two. Ed seems to have had a passion (bordering on the insane) for his work whereas for Uwe its more about tax write-offs. He has proven he can do good work when he wants to. Poor Ed could only have ever done something good by accident.

The fact Who Killed Captain Alex exists is by itself a miracle that proves the director truly cared about his film.

He sold everything he owned for a camera, made on less than a shoe string budget, and managed to make a movie in f**king UGANDA.
Y'know, the war torn hellhole where you can be hanged for being gay and AIDS gets around more than baseball cards?

A film with that level of passions deserves to by on f**king Criterion as far as I'm concerned.