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Title: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: kornula on January 11, 2020, 12:36:08 AM
My roommate has this habit of scouring all the pawn shops and thrift stores in town for DVDs for a dollar. If they are not a dollar, he wont buy them.  This has led him to create a new sub genre; Dollar DVD hell.  DVDs he bought for a dollar (or less) that based on the cover alone, are probably terrible.  This week, we dubbed our regular movie watching time to be "Dollar DVD Hell week"   

Ensuring we wont be biased or take our time picking a movie from the Dollar DVD hell pile, he put all of them spine cover facing the wall..so we cannot see at all the title.  I didn't think I could watch a movie that I could not finish..until Dollar DVD hell...

First movie this week was "Night Divides the Day". Yes, it is a reference to the Doors song. Oddly, the song and the line are never used or referenced to at all.  Two seconds in, we comment that it was shot on someones cheap ass phone camera.   We were wrong, it was shot in 1997...on VHS.   With no lighitng director.  Someone claimed to be the DP...but I don't think anhyone on that set knew exactly what a DP actually is or does.  Only when they had scenes in broad daylight could you make out what's going on...Given that was on VSH, its an accmplishment very likely by accident.  The "story" revolves around college kids (who are actually college age!?) sitting around a campfire telling really weird stories that have nothing to do with the "plot" - neither the story nor plot actually surface until more than half way through.  Even then, you're still scratching your head as to what is going on.

Then we come to the music, its angsty 1990's music that is inserted at the worst times.  I would say that it distracts you from the s**tty acting, but even then you're notcing how horrible both are instead.



I thought that was the worst we were going to see... boy I was wrong...

"The J - K conspiracy"   is about "wacky" Morning DJ's in San Deigo.   

...every one of them played by actual morning DJ's from San Deigo.

AVOID THIS MOVIE AT ALL COSTS!  IF YOU SEE A COPY ANYWHERE.. BURN IT IMMEDIATELY.


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: Gabriel Knight on January 13, 2020, 07:11:09 AM
Hilarious story! I expect more of them in the following days.  :twirl:

The whole situation reminded me a little to SEVERED WAYS: THE NORSE DISCOVERY OF AMERICA. If you actually find that one for your personal Dolar DVD Hell, then get ready for some torture.


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: bob on January 13, 2020, 07:18:37 PM
Bucky Larson --- I've seen things you do not what to know  :bluesad:


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: lester1/2jr on January 14, 2020, 12:46:31 AM
the Madonna version of Swept Away. She's not what you could call an actress. just no stage presence whatsoever. It I'm sure led to the break up of her marriage with whats his name


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: kornula on January 14, 2020, 02:15:10 AM
"Tribulation" with ...Gary Bussey AND Howie Mandell?   And get this... neither of them over act in this movie!

while it was in the "Dollar DVD hell" pile.. it was not bad.   The movie gets right to the story 10 minutes in. (read on the imdb page for the story) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0202236/ (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0202236/) As far as "Saved again"/Rapture type Jesus-y type films.. the story is predictably hilarious;  all the "righteous" people get "raptured"  ...everyone else stays behind in a world that is honestly not that bad.  Kinda reminds me of Harrison Bergeran a bit.  The Devil offers world peace.. somehow , that is a bad thing for "True" Christians.  It really is confusing.

But the big kicker is.. Gary Bussey doesn't over act.. nor does Howie!?   That alone is its saving grace.



Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: kornula on January 14, 2020, 02:28:18 AM
Hilarious story! I expect more of them in the following days.  :twirl:

The whole situation reminded me a little to SEVERED WAYS: THE NORSE DISCOVERY OF AMERICA. If you actually find that one for your personal Dolar DVD Hell, then get ready for some torture.

If either of us finds it for a dollar, we will buy it.   I'm not gonna pay even 2$ for that s**t. :P


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: kornula on January 14, 2020, 02:58:48 AM
the Madonna version of Swept Away. She's not what you could call an actress. just no stage presence whatsoever. It I'm sure led to the break up of her marriage with whats his name

I read somewhere that Madonna wormed her way into the Bond Film:  "Die Another Day"   She wanted to have a "love scene" with Pierce. he Said; "No way!"   So.. they made her a lesbian so bond would have an excuse not to even be naked near her. 


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: LolaK on January 14, 2020, 02:37:02 PM
Really funny collection. It's borderline between bad movie and horror (of losing your time!)

I saw recently "Ryan's Babe" which is also a really bad movie that doesn't make any sense. But I was pretty high so I kind of enjoyed it :D


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: kornula on January 19, 2020, 06:52:46 AM
Dollar DVD Hell update:

"Fathom" with Raquel Welch (1967)   Everyone was trying to cash in on the 007 craze it seems.  Raquel Welch was no exception.

..except she can't act.   

At first, we thought this movie isn't totally bad. We get to watch a lot of lovely Spanish scenery and Raquel's costume changes every scene. The story/plot are cohesive enough, the rest of the cast.. eh.

But.. we get to the end.

And the other twist ending.
And another twist ending.
And another twist ending on top of the other twist ending that Ralph The Wonder Llama couldn't stomach.
...and another twist ending on top of the other twist endings.

 It was worse than "Cats" and "Return of the King".





Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: Gabriel Knight on January 21, 2020, 06:36:31 AM
Anyone watched JACK AND JILL? I'm very curious about that one.


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: bob on January 21, 2020, 11:59:56 AM
Anyone watched JACK AND JILL? I'm very curious about that one.

(https://i.imgur.com/5X8zoBt.gif)

it's one of the worst movies from the 2010s

the story is terrible

Adam Sandler isn't convincing in his lead role as Jill

there is intentional and very blatant product placement throughout -- which honestly seems like that's the only reason this movie was made

there is nothing of value here, not even on a  it's so bad it's good level


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: Alex on January 21, 2020, 12:02:11 PM
Anything with Steven Segal in it that has the words "Mercenary", "Justice" or "Kill" in the title.


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: Rev. Powell on January 21, 2020, 04:23:35 PM
Anything with Steven Segal in it that has the words "Mercenary", "Justice" or "Kill" in the title.

Fixed that for you.


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: chainsaw midget on January 21, 2020, 07:08:33 PM
Quote
Adam Sandler isn't convincing in his lead role as Jill
Adam Sandler is rarely convincing in any lead role. 

Oddly enough, he did make a pretty good Dracula in the first two Hotel Transylvania movies.  The third one though... not so much.


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: Alex on January 22, 2020, 02:12:41 AM
Anything with Steven Segal in it that has the words "Mercenary", "Justice" or "Kill" in the title.

Fixed that for you.

I did like Under Siege.


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: RCMerchant on January 22, 2020, 04:07:34 AM
Anything with Steven Segal in it that has the words "Mercenary", "Justice" or "Kill" in the title.

Fixed that for you.

I did like Under Siege.

"Thank you!" says  the Amazing Colossal Head.
Why does Segal look like Dracula drained the blood of a herd of elephants?

 (https://i.imgur.com/59XGSvs.jpg) (https://lunapic.com)
 


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: chefzombie on January 22, 2020, 08:37:24 PM
segal gives me the creeps... :thumbdown:


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: bob on January 22, 2020, 09:47:21 PM
Anything with Steven Segal in it that has the words "Mercenary", "Justice" or "Kill" in the title.

Fixed that for you.

I liked him in Machete


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: kornula on February 03, 2020, 11:29:58 PM
"Thunder Ninja Kids in the Golden Adventure"

Godfrey Ho milked out another "Ninja" film by using footage from previous film ..inserting into a film about Gangsters and ...spies..I think?

Anyway, no kids show up at all on screen.

That's the best summary I can offer. 

Seriously.


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: chefzombie on February 04, 2020, 01:14:37 AM
ghost brides of dracula. this was THAT bad that i couldn't get past the first 15 minutes. and i gave it the valiant try THREE times, still couldn't do it. AVOID!!!


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: cqmorrell on February 09, 2020, 11:34:59 PM
I know I brought it up before, but the 2010 King of Fighters movie ... if you're any way a fan of the game series, keep far away.


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: kornula on February 11, 2020, 10:01:16 PM
Winslow The Christmas bear.  

We made it 30 minutes in before we had to turn it off.

If you see a copy on any format, instantly burn it.


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: Gabriel Knight on February 12, 2020, 06:28:17 AM
Well, of course we should mention AFTER LAST SEASON. A fierce candidate for the worst movie ever made.


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: zombie no.one on February 12, 2020, 03:43:21 PM
Anything with Steven Segal in it that has the words "Mercenary", "Justice" or "Kill" in the title.

Fixed that for you.

I did like Under Siege.
UNDER SIEGE 2 is a work of misunderstood genius

(ok maybe not , but it is hilariously crap, imo. worth a watch or three...)


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: Alex on February 12, 2020, 06:34:36 PM
Anything with Steven Segal in it that has the words "Mercenary", "Justice" or "Kill" in the title.

Fixed that for you.

I did like Under Siege.
UNDER SIEGE 2 is a work of misunderstood genius

(ok maybe not , but it is hilariously crap, imo. worth a watch or three...)

One of the early scripts for Predator 2 was based on a comic book story and was to star Segal playing a cop who was also Arnies brother. I weep for the loss of that masterpiece.


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: Trevor on February 13, 2020, 08:22:23 AM
Anything with Steven Segal in it that has the words "Mercenary", "Justice" or "Kill" in the title.

I have a South African made film with two of those words in the title: this is a DTV film which is actually quite good.

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcRToGpsRdDNXi-OZMHsjFpCrgHAlfW93roVq7LB7kOTqq6Q2-Vf)


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: ER on February 13, 2020, 11:21:26 AM
Demi More's "reimagining" of The Scarlet Letter. Traumatizingly awful.


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: El Misfit on February 14, 2020, 06:23:21 PM
Kirk Cameron's Saving Christmas is up there. It's one of the worst Christmas movies of all time, more than Santa Claus Conquers the Martians. It's an insult to movie making, story telling, and research.


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: Gabriel Knight on February 26, 2020, 09:05:48 AM
Kirk Cameron's Saving Christmas is up there. It's one of the worst Christmas movies of all time, more than Santa Claus Conquers the Martians. It's an insult to movie making, story telling, and research.

I actually read the user reviews since it's one of the worst voted movies in the entire site (and that's saying something). Damn, it really feels like nothing but crappy propaganda.


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: kornula on March 04, 2020, 02:15:40 AM
Kirk Cameron's Saving Christmas is up there. It's one of the worst Christmas movies of all time, more than Santa Claus Conquers the Martians. It's an insult to movie making, story telling, and research.

I actually read the user reviews since it's one of the worst voted movies in the entire site (and that's saying something). Damn, it really feels like nothing but crappy propaganda.

All I needed to know to avoid this movie was "Kirk Cameron"   


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: kornula on May 10, 2020, 03:30:47 AM
Update on Dollar DVD Hell;

We dove into the pile about 2 months ago and pulled out "DC Cleopatra"  an Anime where the Japanese show what they think Americans are like.. Of course, there is a big boobied blonde good natured billionaire who can call the President of the USA for an air strike on her own oil field in the mid east to save it from terrorists bombing it first. (it does make sense.. I swear)

Did I mention DC Cleopatra has big boobs?

Anyway, I thought it was going to be a bit lame..but damn, the people who animated this either love or hate Americans.  I'm not sure which. 

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/j6wAAMXQjq5Q9-jh/s-l400.jpg)


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: pacman000 on May 10, 2020, 07:02:39 AM
Are you sure we should avoid that one? What you wrote sounds like a reccomendation.  :teddyr:


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: Rev. Powell on May 10, 2020, 08:43:37 AM
Well, of course we should mention AFTER LAST SEASON. A fierce candidate for the worst movie ever made.

But that's why everyone here should seek it out.


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: pacman000 on May 10, 2020, 10:21:32 AM
Saw a bit of After Last Season. Its badness is hypnotic. Probably worth a watch, if you have time.


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: kornula on May 10, 2020, 11:44:37 PM
Is AFTER LAST SEASON a new movie directed by Tommy Wisseau?


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: Trevor on May 11, 2020, 01:22:32 AM
Is AFTER LAST SEASON a new movie directed by Tommy Wisseau?

Some guy called Mark Region, apparently a pseudonym.


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: Rev. Powell on May 11, 2020, 10:42:28 AM
Is AFTER LAST SEASON a new movie directed by Tommy Wisseau?

Some guy called Mark Region, apparently a pseudonym.


Region is a real guy, and very dull, just like his movie. https://filmmakermagazine.com/4211-interview-after-last-seasons-mark-region/#.Xrlx5cB7lhH


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: lester1/2jr on May 15, 2020, 12:46:52 PM
I've been trying for 4 nights to get through Like Normal People so I guess that. Its not bad just not what I want to see at the end of a long day in any way shape or form. If they got taken out by zombies that would be another story....hmmmm


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: kornula on June 01, 2020, 03:31:51 AM
My roommate would put on "L.A. Zombie if he wanted guests to leave.   


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: Trollificus on June 07, 2020, 09:13:18 AM
Quote from: bob

it's one of the worst movies from the 2010s

the story is terrible

Adam Sandler isn't convincing in his lead role as Jill

there is intentional and very blatant product placement throughout -- which honestly seems like that's the only reason this movie was made

there is nothing of value here, not even on a  it's so bad it's good level

Have you seen the Red Letter Media review of this? They started out just to roast it, but upon learning that it's budget was SEVENTY MILLION DOLLARS ($70,000,000!), made the review a two-parter wherein they dissect and pretty much confirm that this, among other Sandler joints, is a freaking SCAM. They pointed out ways where the production cheaped out when more effort/expense would have clearly made it a "better" (as in "slightly less awful") movie. And they guessed it could not possibly have generated more than a couple mill in production costs.

The rest of the $70 mill was presumably pocketed in the form of hyper-inflated salaries for the "talent". All of whom happen to be friends of Sandler and Happy Madison regulars.

Just adds a level of sleazy to what is a truly awful movie. And that doesn't even take into account whatever was paid for the extensive and intrusive product placement.

So it's a movie that's bad on levels most bad movies could never hope to achieve.  :thumbdown:


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: Trollificus on June 07, 2020, 09:18:41 AM
Quote from: kornula
Update on Dollar DVD Hell;

We dove into the pile about 2 months ago and pulled out "DC Cleopatra"  an Anime where the Japanese show what they think Americans are like.. Of course, there is a big boobied blonde good natured billionaire who can call the President of the USA for an air strike on her own oil field in the mid east to save it from terrorists bombing it first. (it does make sense.. I swear)

Did I mention DC Cleopatra has big boobs?

Anyway, I thought it was going to be a bit lame..but damn, the people who animated this either love or hate Americans.  I'm not sure which. 


Lol. I think, whether it's love or hate, it's probably kinky, being Japan.


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: Trollificus on June 07, 2020, 09:31:16 AM
My candidate, leaving out barber-made, film student-made and insane person-made films, would be "Old Dogs"...with ROBIN freaking WILLIAMS and JOHN TRAVOLTA, both in shameless check-cashing mode.

My wife made me go see it in a theater, and I thought "Well, how bad can it be, both those guys are pros, might even be good."

How wrong I was. How very, very, very, very, extremely wrong I was. From the "dog p**ses on stuff" jokes to the "guy smacked in the nuts" jokes (plural on both of those I kid you not), to the stupid, stupid plot, to the least likeable child characters I've ever seen in a movie (seriously, the films' "climax" is a birthday party for one of the little s**ts, and I was praying for the napalm strike that would have redeemed the movie), it is a truly awful MAJOR STUDIO THEATRICAL RELEASE.

My wife says she looked over and I was slumped sideways in my seat, kind of curled up like I was suffering severe GI distress and a horrified expression.

Made all the worse by having two decent "stars" whose presence in this was actually depressing.

Give it a watch and see if you can figure out who the villains are? Okay, no mystery, it's the kids. Those awful, homely, overweight, unpleasant, selfish, inconsiderate little s**ts. Obviously written by someone who has never spent more than 10 minutes in the presence of an actual child.

It is to shudder...


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: pennywise37 on June 08, 2020, 12:58:37 AM
i saw it once years ago thought it was alright and  i don't think i've seen it since. it's not the best movie out there but i kinda liked it but not enough to want to watch it again or even buy it for that matter.

Here's one you Should Avoid at all cost "Killjoy 2' (2002) that movie WOW is it bad i watched it a few years back and it's painfully bad in fact the actor apparently reading the trivia tonight about it who played Killjoy regrets even doing it what's that tell you? he said the only good thing about it is the makeup and well he's right actually


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: claws on June 08, 2020, 01:15:10 AM
I expected a very low rating but Old Dogs IMDb rating is 5,4. I guess there are some people who enjoyed it. Still, not a film I'd be interested to watch.


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: claws on June 08, 2020, 01:28:12 AM
One of the worst movies I've seen is Hip Hop Locos (2001). It is a no-budget nightmare. Whatever movie you think was the worst, after watching Hip Hop Locos you will find a new appreciation for whatever you thought was bad. To me, Hip Hop Locos sets the bar when it comes the bad movies, and I've seen quite a few in my life.

Should this be avoided? Technically yes but if you ever watch it you will re-think your definition of what is bad.


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: pennywise37 on June 08, 2020, 02:28:03 AM
there's quite a lot of John Carradine movies that just as bad as that one sounds, i have never even heard of that one before. for me No Country for Old Men (2007) belongs in movies you should avoid but for some reason most people seem to like it. for me it's one of the worst movies i have ever seen in my life,

there's one called Necromancy (1972) with Orson Wells and Pamela Franklin, and it's also got Michael Ontkean in it as well. on you tube there's an extended version with the longer ending and the cut one has the white just being locked in a grave and that's it.

honestly i have a feeling that one is even worse so i'm glad i didn't watch that one. Wells appears here and there in the film and he is good in it but i wish i knew why he took the role that film is just painfully bad

there's another one that is one to avoid it's called "It's not the size that counts' (1974) and if you think the film is about that yes it is & it's terrible!
why did i watch it well  buy it as i bought the VHS in the early 2000's. and the only reason i watched it at all was 2 reasons. 1. Vincent Price & 2. Denholm Elliot
is in it as well and he's a favorite of mine as well. Barry Humphries also is in it as well and i like him too.

that one i give 0/10.  it's actually a sequel to one called Percy's Progress (1971) which also has Denholm Elliot in it as well. that one i haven't seen yet but i'm not rushing to see it either.


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: kornula on June 08, 2020, 01:20:33 PM
there's one called Necromancy (1972) with Orson Wells and Pamela Franklin, and it's also got Michael Ontkean in it as well. on you tube there's an extended version with the longer ending and the cut one has the white just being locked in a grave and that's it.

honestly i have a feeling that one is even worse so i'm glad i didn't watch that one. Wells appears here and there in the film and he is good in it but i wish i knew why he took the role that film is just painfully bad

Welles was quite often broke during mid production of many of his own personal projects and had to take any and all acting gigs that were offered him.


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: pennywise37 on June 10, 2020, 07:52:12 AM
i'm prolly gonnna get some flack for this but i don't care, i think Wells is honestly overrated now don't get me wrong he was a talented guy and he was a great director and actor. but i never considered him a Genius now Hitchcock was a Genius i think Hitch is my favorite director of all time.

i just can't seem to get into any of Wells movies that he directs. for example years ago i watched The Trial (1963) and i watched it cause of Anthony Perkins i'll watch him in anything. and WOW was that film simply awful i was bored, not as bad as that one with Charlten Heston that i forget the name of

that one i tried watching a few years back and i never was able to actually finish it cause i just got bored and lost interest. now if you want a good Wells Film check out (1970)'s Start the Revolution without me it's a brilliant film he only acts in it and his role was more so a cameo at the start and the finish that's about it i think. so he prolly filmed all his stuff in one day.

now the one i would love to see is (1955)'s  Moby Dick Rehearsed with Christopher Lee, Lee himself went on record that is one film he had never even saw it.
i think that's one that was caught in a fire i think it was in (1967) the workprint of it i mean, but i do hope and pray i'm wrong cause i'd love to see it.


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: Gabriel Knight on June 10, 2020, 09:33:53 AM
s**tIZEN KANE is the definition of overrated and boredom. I'm sure that if you look those words in the dictionary you get a picture of that movie.


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: kornula on June 11, 2020, 11:38:03 AM
Art is 10000000% subjective.  There is some spark of interest in a work of art that offers one a bit of personal refection.  If there is no spark, that body of work will never engage you.  So I can see how Welles films can not engage you.   You at least recognize his skills/talent.   

The Trial is honestly not his best film I would have to say as well.    What gets me is that the casting is amazing yet the movie never seems to fully engage into the story fully.  Mr K is on trial for ...mediocrity. (that's the "story" I kid you not)  However, I saw a live stage production of "The Trial" about 15 years ago.   I have to say I was totally engaged with the staged version.

PS, do yourself a favor and watch "F is For Fake".  It's on youtube and I honestly love this movie more than Citizen Kane..and I'm an unapologetic Welles Fanboy.


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: RCMerchant on June 11, 2020, 12:26:27 PM
not as bad as that one with Charlten Heston that i forget the name of




A TOUCH OF EVIL (1958) which I thought was a classic.


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: Alex on June 11, 2020, 12:44:35 PM
Art is 10000000% subjective.  There is some spark of interest in a work of art that offers one a bit of personal refection.  If there is no spark, that body of work will never engage you.  So I can see how Welles films can not engage you.   You at least recognize his skills/talent.   

The Trial is honestly not his best film I would have to say as well.    What gets me is that the casting is amazing yet the movie never seems to fully engage into the story fully.  Mr K is on trial for ...mediocrity. (that's the "story" I kid you not)  However, I saw a live stage production of "The Trial" about 15 years ago.   I have to say I was totally engaged with the staged version.

PS, do yourself a favor and watch "F is For Fake".  It's on youtube and I honestly love this movie more than Citizen Kane..and I'm an unapologetic Welles Fanboy.

It is a shame many people instead of thinking "I don't like this, it just isn't for me", think instead "I don't like this ergo this person has no talent" (and I include myself in the former catagory sometimes. I still can't understand how anyone could enjoy the Solaris remake for example).


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: Rev. Powell on June 11, 2020, 12:49:10 PM
I actually think THE TRIAL may be Welles' best movie, with only TOUCH OF EVIL to challenge it. Different strokes, eh?

(Anyone who thinks they don't like Welles should see TOUCH OF EVIL before coming to that decision. If you're still not convinced after that, have at it.)


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: Allhallowsday on June 11, 2020, 01:28:17 PM
s**tIZEN KANE is the definition of overrated and boredom. I'm sure that if you look those words in the dictionary you get a picture of that movie.

You do not know a BORING movie if CITIZEN KANE bored you.   :thumbup: :teddyr:


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: pennywise37 on June 12, 2020, 12:05:30 AM
yes i admit the man was Talented and a pretty smart guy i was watching old interviews of him recently as in the past few days, one was on Dick Cavett in (1970) and i forget the name of that Gentlemen from the UK from (1974)  on Cavett he actually did talk about Citizen Kane and it's not something he normally talked about so i was surprised he even spoke about it at all.

i will say on Wells he tried different things and didn't want to copy things he's done i can respect that where Woody Allen has played the same character for over 50 years and people still love him, only nice thing i can say about him is that he's a good director.

both guys though often get the best cast for their films regardless of Quality. and yes thank you Touch of Evil i think i watched about half if it and i lost track of what was going on cause i got bored and i shut it off. TCM had it on one day i prolly will watch it again one day but who knows when?

the the funniest things and the best thing he ever did is easily easily Peas commerical he did in what (1973) and he was drunk off his a**  when i first heard that tape i could not stop laughing. as for F is for Fake actually that's been on my list to watch for years i just have never gotten around to see it.

i'm not opposed to trying to watch his films cause i at some point will try and watch more of them. F is for Fake is on you tube? on that i had no idea thank you


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: RCMerchant on June 12, 2020, 07:14:06 AM
^ If it makes you feel any better, CITIZEN KANE bored me to tears as well.


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: Gabriel Knight on June 12, 2020, 09:12:21 AM
^ If it makes you feel any better, CITIZEN KANE bored me to tears as well.

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Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: Allhallowsday on June 12, 2020, 10:29:14 AM
Yeh, you want action, murder, violence, busty babes and stupid dialogue, CITIZEN KANE is not for you! 


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: RCMerchant on June 12, 2020, 11:33:44 AM
 violence,

I generally have to have at least violence. Even in comedy- which may be why the 3 Stooges are my favorite comedians.
I can understand why in the 40's this was the "Greatest Movie of ALL TIME"- kind of. The cinematography is excellent and broke new ground at the time. But that in itself does not a great movie make. I have never been able to sit through the whole thing. And I tried a couple of times.
Kinda like GONE WITH THE WIND (1939). That movie is about as worthless as a $3 bill (in my humble opinion.)
Chaplin too. Why was he so great? Oh yeah- he introduced pathos into slapstick.
If I'm watching a slapstick- I don't care about pathos or romantic subplots. I just want to see someone acting like an idiot.


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: Allhallowsday on June 12, 2020, 12:05:58 PM
 violence,
I generally have to have at least violence. Even in comedy- which may be why the 3 Stooges are my favorite comedians.
I can understand why in the 40's this was the "Greatest Movie of ALL TIME"- kind of. The cinematography is excellent and broke new ground at the time. But that in itself does not a great movie make.

CITIZEN KANE
is a great movie for several reasons; even the BERNARD HERRMANN score is superb.  The film's reputation goes up and down like a balloon.  Personally, I think BUSTER KEATON's THE GENERAL might be the "greatest movie of all time". 

...
Kinda like GONE WITH THE WIND (1939). That movie is about as worthless as a $3 bill (in my humble opinion.)
Chaplin too. Why was he so great? Oh yeah- he introduced pathos into slapstick.
If I'm watching a slapstick- I don't care about pathos or romantic subplots. I just want to see someone acting like an idiot.
Though there are things to like in GONE WITH THE WIND - I ain't a fan either! 
As far as CHAPLIN goes, THE GOLD RUSH  CITY LIGHTS  MODERN TIMES  THE GREAT DICTATOR  MONSIEUR VERDOUX... are all favorites of mine.  I think those films are filled with humor AND pathos. 


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: RCMerchant on June 12, 2020, 12:16:31 PM
^ I never liked Chaplin. I love Laurel and Hardy, and Harold Llyod. Not so much Keaton. I think his stone face act gets monotonous. But Chaplin...I dunno. Too self important. And his early years were just Keystone cops stuff. Like Cecil B. DeMille...he broke new ground in film making...but most of his stuff is blah. Like most  blockbusters. They broke records. So what? So did TITANIC.
(It's odd that I don't like Keaton so much- but I love Droopy cartoons!  :buggedout:)


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: RCMerchant on June 12, 2020, 12:47:43 PM
Pathos in a horror film is essential. Karloff's Frankenstein is the best example. No other version by any other actor in the same role every captured that. The first film is my favorite.He don't say a word.

Karloff turned a monster into a man. Without a word of dialogue! No easy trick.

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Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: pennywise37 on June 12, 2020, 03:13:46 PM
i've tried to get into Chaplin as well and he's i agree hard to get into cause his humor is just so different i also love Stan and Ollie as well.
i do like Keaton but i haven't seen that much of his his stuff mostly stuff he did in the 60's to be honest. The Twilight zone for example not a great episode but a decent one. and nobody said that Citizen Kane wasn't a well made movie but watching it wise..... is another matter altogether.

as for Karloff i just love him honestly i think Bride is a far better film than the (1931) version of Frankenstein. as for Titanic it's a good not a great movie,
it's highly overrated as well. i think i  already said that i saw it when it first came out and i went with my  aunt and laughed my ass off when Leo died i think cause of his cheesy that scene was. i still dunno why people went and saw it 30 or 40 times if anyone remembers that? the last film i saw in the theater more than any other is Rocky Horror i went to get out of the house growing up.  Pulp Fiction i saw 4 times when that first came out

but  other than that... anyways but i do love the (1992) film Chaplin with Robert Downey Jr. that film is such a good film i wish i had it on blu-ray but i do i think have it on VHS.


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: kornula on July 17, 2020, 02:31:00 PM
Just a friendly reminder;  do not watch Godfry Ho's: "Robo Vampire"   

Heck, if you see "Directed by Godfrey Ho" on any DVD, burn it!


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: RCMerchant on July 17, 2020, 02:35:49 PM
Just a friendly reminder;  do not watch Godfry Ho's: "Robo Vampire"   

Heck, if you see "Directed by Godfrey Ho" on any DVD, burn it!


I love NINJA TERMINATOR!

http://youtu.be/ThpdB-W89gg (http://youtu.be/ThpdB-W89gg)


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: kornula on July 17, 2020, 02:37:33 PM
Just a friendly reminder;  do not watch Godfry Ho's: "Robo Vampire"   

Heck, if you see "Directed by Godfrey Ho" on any DVD, burn it!


I love NINJA TERMINATOR!

[url]http://youtu.be/ThpdB-W89gg[/url] ([url]http://youtu.be/ThpdB-W89gg[/url])


Why??? can you explain what is going on in that .. or ANY Godfrey Ho movie please!????


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: RCMerchant on July 17, 2020, 09:58:30 PM
^  No...no I can't explain. But that's why I like them!  :wink:


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: pennywise37 on July 17, 2020, 10:57:22 PM
i have no interest in watching those myself as they all look  terrible, some are no doubt better than others but there are better movies out there but to each their own i suppose


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: kornula on July 18, 2020, 12:22:55 AM
^  No...no I can't explain. But that's why I like them!  :wink:

Fair enough. 

Oddly, that's the similar response I get from my roommate who swears he honestly loves TAKING TIGER MOUNTAIN (1983)   This movie is a little more cohesive a story than any Godfrey Ho movie.. only by a hairs breath tho.


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: pennywise37 on July 18, 2020, 12:25:39 AM
i'm like that with some movies too, i see lists of Leonard Part 6 (1987) and yeah it's a bad film but it's one i just love i dunno why the film still makes me laugh

and yeah it's a bad film but it's fun bad & i even bought on VHS some years back. there are far far worse movies out there than that but that's one i always did get a kick out of.


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: kornula on October 22, 2020, 06:10:18 PM
^  No...no I can't explain. But that's why I like them!  :wink:

PS, I cannot recall, but were there any actual Ninja's in the movie?  More than half his movies with "Ninja" in the title do not have actual Ninja's.


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: kornula on October 22, 2020, 06:12:00 PM
i'm like that with some movies too, i see lists of Leonard Part 6 (1987) and yeah it's a bad film but it's one i just love i dunno why the film still makes me laugh

and yeah it's a bad film but it's fun bad & i even bought on VHS some years back. there are far far worse movies out there than that but that's one i always did get a kick out of.

For 25 years, I've avoided Cosby movies..like Ghost Dad and Leonard Part 6.   One year ago, I broke down and watched Ghost dad. Should I break down and watch Leonard Part 6?


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: jimpickens on October 23, 2020, 12:23:49 AM
Grease 2 worst than the first one Mamma Mia and Shock Treatment.


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: Alex on October 23, 2020, 01:31:47 AM
i'm like that with some movies too, i see lists of Leonard Part 6 (1987) and yeah it's a bad film but it's one i just love i dunno why the film still makes me laugh

and yeah it's a bad film but it's fun bad & i even bought on VHS some years back. there are far far worse movies out there than that but that's one i always did get a kick out of.

For 25 years, I've avoided Cosby movies..like Ghost Dad and Leonard Part 6.   One year ago, I broke down and watched Ghost dad. Should I break down and watch Leonard Part 6?

I found Leonard part 6 to be dull and stupid, can't give it a recommend.


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: pennywise37 on October 23, 2020, 03:03:51 AM
that's not among his best films i will give you that but i love it,  Ghost Dad i like but if there are other Cosby films out there you could watch i haven't seen that many of them,  Jack (1996) is a good drama with Robin Williams Cosby isn't in that one that much if i recall but it's a good movie.

a good one is Mother, Jugs & Speed from (1976) on IMDB it says he only did 15 films WOW i thought it was more! 

here's one to avoid like the freaking plague and that's (2019)'s Pet Semetary  WOW was it bad i bought on 4K when it 1st came out on a lark and i bought that and the Original as well on 4K as i love that film. i love the (1989) film anyways, all the cut scenes in it SHOULD have been in the damn film cause they would have made a far better film.  reading the trivia of it the test audience loved the ending to what they did end up using as several of them where shot apparently.

another reason why they should STOP USING THEM! sorry about the all caps but it's so true.  test audience aren't always right they a lot of the time can be full of major sh*t.  the ending they used is just plain terrible,  i have a fan edit of it that i found online and downloaded and i think i will have to watch that one at some point. but some of the stuff that was cut was character development and they must have been smoking some of the good stuff when they edited it.

my only question is why didn't they share?  has anyone seen this one? and if so what did you think of it?


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: Rev. Powell on October 23, 2020, 09:09:14 AM
^  No...no I can't explain. But that's why I like them!  :wink:

Fair enough. 

Oddly, that's the similar response I get from my roommate who swears he honestly loves TAKING TIGER MOUNTAIN (1983)   This movie is a little more cohesive a story than any Godfrey Ho movie.. only by a hairs breath tho.

I'm with RC on this one. Godfrey Ho rules! Chaos reigns!  :thumbup:


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: kornula on October 26, 2020, 02:59:12 AM


Fair enough. 

Oddly, that's the similar response I get from my roommate who swears he honestly loves TAKING TIGER MOUNTAIN (1983)   This movie is a little more cohesive a story than any Godfrey Ho movie.. only by a hairs breath tho.
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I'm with RC on this one. Godfrey Ho rules! Chaos reigns!  :thumbup:
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Apparently, I blocked out all memory of ever watching ROBO VAMPIRES totally from my mind.   Godfrey Ho is that confusing to me...but you guys keep on enjoying the chaos.


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: pennywise37 on October 26, 2020, 03:05:39 AM
Mulan 2 (2004) stay away from this  one as well it's pretty awful


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: zombie no.one on October 26, 2020, 05:34:00 AM
I just watched STARSHIP TROOPERS 2. just a mess. first half consists of guys running around in darkness shouting at each other, then switches to guys walking around in darkness talking to each other. extremely dull.


btw NINJA TERMINATOR is great for the steamed crabs and garfield phone scene, but overall I prefer his THE ULTIMATE NINJA for sheer stupidity.


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: kornula on October 26, 2020, 01:14:20 PM
I knew to avoid STARSHIP TROOPERS 2 just by the title alone.   It's also why I have yet to watch BLADE RUNNER 2049


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: kornula on December 12, 2020, 02:12:11 AM
Did you know there is a sequel to "Watership Down"??? 

I'm not kidding. 


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: Gabriel Knight on December 12, 2020, 10:00:01 AM
 It's also why I have yet to watch BLADE RUNNER 2049

That movie it's just balls. I couldn't believe how slow and tedious it is, and the plot just doesn't make any sense. Harrison Ford looks like he's bored out of his skull, just as I was while watching him. It's amazing how they had a huge budget and it looks worse than the original, which was made decades ago with a fraction of it.

Keep avoiding it.


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: zelmo73 on December 13, 2020, 02:14:42 AM
 It's also why I have yet to watch BLADE RUNNER 2049

That movie it's just balls. I couldn't believe how slow and tedious it is, and the plot just doesn't make any sense. Harrison Ford looks like he's bored out of his skull, just as I was while watching him. It's amazing how they had a huge budget and it looks worse than the original, which was made decades ago with a fraction of it.

Keep avoiding it.

It was worse than terrible (which at times can make a movie even better than it was originally intended), it was just s-l-l-l-o-o-o-w-w-w! Not slow in a cool Godfather Part II (1974) or even a Once Upon A Time In Hollywood (2019) way; but slow in a paint drying on a gooey pile of molasses kind of way. I couldn't understand why the film was so grainy in some scenes either, and with home viewing, unless you have a 4K HDR TV, then good luck watching the fight scenes; some of which were so dark that it was hard to tell what was going on. You would hear "oof" and "BAM!" and "SMASH!" but it was like shutting off all the lights in the arena at a big boxing match. I tried to like it, and there are some good scenes in the movie, but overall I'm just regretting that I bought it first before previewing it.


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: kornula on December 14, 2020, 05:30:09 AM
Seriously... Escape from Watership down.... WTF?


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: Trevor on December 20, 2020, 01:08:08 AM
Just a friendly reminder;  do not watch Godfry Ho's: "Robo Vampire"   

Heck, if you see "Directed by Godfrey Ho" on any DVD, burn it!


I love NINJA TERMINATOR!

[url]http://youtu.be/ThpdB-W89gg[/url] ([url]http://youtu.be/ThpdB-W89gg[/url])


Sorry but WTF was that??  :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle:


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: kornula on December 20, 2020, 03:17:34 AM
Let me guess, all you Godfrey Ho fans love BIONIC NINJA??



Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: RCMerchant on December 20, 2020, 10:36:24 AM
Let me guess, all you Godfrey Ho fans love BIONIC NINJA??



I never even heard about it.
It's a must see now!  :buggedout:

http://youtu.be/DyMQM5qtJ2g (http://youtu.be/DyMQM5qtJ2g)


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: zelmo73 on December 24, 2020, 12:09:56 AM
Did you know there is a sequel to "Watership Down"??? 

I'm not kidding. 

They made a newer miniseries of the story on Netflix a couple of years ago. It is okay. The voice actors are decent; James McAvoy as Hazel and Finn from Disney Star Wars sequel trilogy as Bigwig. I’ve only watched the first episode so far; I just can’t get past the crappy CGI that they used; like they ran the CGI software off of Windows 98 or something, which is unfortunate because they retold the story without changing much; the mixed reviews that I’ve read about the miniseries are all pretty universal in pointing out this one major flaw in the series.

I would recommend avoiding this one unless you are just curious, and instead I’d recommend sticking with the 1978 children’s horror movie version, which was a lot better and had much more talented voice actors.


Title: Re: Movies everyone should avoid
Post by: kornula on December 29, 2020, 02:58:44 AM
Seriously, WINSLOW THE CHRISTMAS BEAR is painful.