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Title: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: Olivia Bauer on August 02, 2020, 08:23:08 PM
Have you ever watched a movie that was directed by someone you love and then felt really let down?

Well, if I have, I don't remember. So share yours instead.

The only rule is no M. Night Shyamalan movies. I don't think he qualifies as a "good" director anymore.


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: RCMerchant on August 02, 2020, 08:32:31 PM
The IRISHMAN by Scorsese.
Bloated remix of all his other (better) gangster movies. And even with cgi, DeNiro still is waaay to old for the part. And all the other usual suspects called in their performances.
Waaay to long as well.


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: RCMerchant on August 02, 2020, 08:37:12 PM
Tarintino's the HATEFUL EIGHT is so f**king long winded. Bored the f^ck outta me.


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: Alex on August 03, 2020, 12:48:55 AM
Ghosts of Mars by John Carpenter. Several of the actors (Ice Cube most glaring) just don't seem to fit into their roles resulting in a very clunky movie.


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: bob on August 03, 2020, 07:21:01 AM
North by Rob Reiner


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: dcj2112 on August 03, 2020, 07:32:11 AM
Not a bad movie, but Stanley Kubrick’s Barry Lyndon could have been much better with some tweaks. Most notably not casting Ryan O’Neal in the lead. For context this was only a few years removed from A Clockwork Orange, which in my opinion is Kubrick’s best film. Malcolm McDowell wanted to work with Kubrick again and would have been perfect in that role.

How you choose Ryan O’Neal over Malcolm McDowell is beyond me.

And it’s not like those were Kubrick’s only two options. Even if Kubrick didn’t want to cast McDowell for whatever reason he had no shortage of great leading men to choose from in the mid 1970s.


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: zombie no.one on August 03, 2020, 07:40:25 AM
David Lynch - INLAND EMPIRE

Coen bros - INTOLERABLE CRUELTY


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: bob on August 03, 2020, 09:12:50 AM
Burn After Reading by  Joel and Ethan Coen


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: pennywise37 on August 03, 2020, 09:49:42 PM
Hitch's Rear Window (1954) is loved by many and is considered one of his best but it's not that i think it's awful i just find it meh it just doesn't do anything for me.

other films by him '(1934)'s first of  The man who knew too much i  find it awful, (1930)'s Murder it's terrible.

Cohen Bros. No country for old men (2007) i'm prolly the only one on this entire site that thought that film was utterly garbage and i can live with that


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: Dr. Whom on August 04, 2020, 01:12:26 AM


Cohen Bros. No country for old men (2007) i'm prolly the only one on this entire site that thought that film was utterly garbage and i can live with that

Well, there is two of us at least. I didn't think it was garbage, but found it profoundly boring.


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: pennywise37 on August 04, 2020, 01:46:54 AM
i can live with that, see i never read the book, when i went and saw it i thought the film was going to be about those drug dealers and that ugly mofo was going to be part of it, that would have made it a far better film had it been like that to be honest. but yes i was bored out of my mind and at some point no joke i said to myself uh where's Josh Brolin? why isn't he at the end of the film? well so i came home and looked it up on the IMDB boards which were still around back than.

man do i miss those and i had to have someone tell me he was killed well it was shot where you do not see him at all get killed.  so i went uh oh kay.....

than i told my mom not to rent it when it comes out, she ignored me and it took her no joke 2 days to watch it my dad fell asleep on it but he can fall asleep on anything pretty much. but he did say it was boring as well my mom ended up having to pay a late fee!  than a friend of her's rented it and regretted it as well after she was told it was awful she regretted it as well.

ya know the last one i saw of theirs was that Hollywood one from a few years back i forget the title of it and honestly that wasn't that bad of a film it wasn't great by any means but it was a film i was glad i watched.  i'll never watch it again though and if i recall that one actually flopped when it came out which goes to show not every film of theirs is a hit.

but many people seem to love it and when it won best picture of the year i went WTF?


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: retrorussell on August 04, 2020, 04:50:19 AM
Ugh..  John Huston has done so many good flicks-- Maltese Falcon, Man Who Would Be King, African Queen, Asphalt Jungle, Prizzi's Honor, etc.  And he also crapped out PHOBIA (1980).  Really bad horror flick about a psychatrist's patients who are murdered in ways tied to their phobias. 
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDTdDL0xFOU#)


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: Alex on August 04, 2020, 07:15:32 AM
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. A movie that fails to capture any of the fun of the other entries in the series. Features way too many predictable moments rehashed from the earlier (and superior) prequels. Plenty of big-name actors wasting their time on screen.


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: zombie no.one on August 04, 2020, 09:05:16 AM
Dario Argento... there's a lot of places I could go here, but THE CARD PLAYER is really bad. really hard to take on 1st viewing, on 2nd viewing I quite enjoyed its badness


Burn After Reading by  Joel and Ethan Coen
this one seems quite divisive... it's probably my 2nd or 3rd fav Coen bros movie. a magnificent farce/shaggy dog story. I can kind of see why some might hate it though


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: Gabriel Knight on August 04, 2020, 01:35:30 PM
Hitch's Rear Window (1954) is loved by many and is considered one of his best but it's not that i think it's awful i just find it meh it just doesn't do anything for me.

other films by him '(1934)'s first of  The man who knew too much i  find it awful, (1930)'s Murder it's terrible.

Cohen Bros. No country for old men (2007) i'm prolly the only one on this entire site that thought that film was utterly garbage and i can live with that

I actually made a thread once about NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN because I think it's a terrible movie, not sure what happened to that particular discussion tho.
I recently watched REAR WINDOW and I thought it was ok, yet I couldn't stand VERTIGO too much.


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: pennywise37 on August 04, 2020, 04:48:26 PM
really? i guess that one got buried apparently now Vertigo (1958) i do love that film but it's not my favorite of his though North By Northwest is (1959) burn while reading has so much bad acting it was painful, Frances McDormand wasn't terrible in it but Clooney and Pitt were i think. i don't hate that one as much as i hated No country for old men (2007). honestly i think those guys are talented that's not a question but i do think they are vastly overrated though


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: zelmo73 on August 05, 2020, 12:46:03 AM
Godfather Part III (1990) might be considered an easy target, but even if Winona Ryder had stayed in the movie instead of Sofia Coppola having only 2 weeks to prep for that role as Ryder's replacement, the movie itself still would have been terrible; Sofia Coppola took the brunt of that movie's criticism in 1990 because she was clearly not fit to be given such a prominent role in that movie. It was just all around bad, the acting was just forced and ho-hum at times, the movie was about one hour too long, and I personally thought it was hilarious that Talia Shire was reduced to reprising her Adrian Balboa acting schtick to salvage something out of her role as Connie Corleone, because that was who she reminded me of. Francis Ford Coppola really batted a no-hitter with this one, which is regrettable because this was supposed to be the end to a fantastic trilogy, not leaving you with a bad taste in your mouth.

Another film that I couldn't get behind was John Carpenter's Vampires (1998). Which is funny because I tried to like this movie; all my friends and the edgy movie gurus of the late '90s who lived and breathed every word that puked out of Quentin Tarantino's mouth -- you know the ones that thought that The Doom Generation (1995) was some kind of masterpiece -- would say nothing but good things about Vampires, but as a kid that was raised on The Thing (1982), Halloween (1978), and Christine (1983) among others, I hold John Carpenter to a much higher standard than the hot mess that was Vampires. The movie had a terrible plot, terrible writing for all the really good actors that must have been hard-up for money in the late '90s to have agreed to participate in this hot garbage pile; even the overall premise of biker vampire hunters just seemed like something that John Carpenter dreamed up while drunk and stoned one night. James Woods should have shined in a crap role like this, but he was arguably the worst part of the movie because his character was just so unlikeable and made no sense half the time. It's bad when you find yourself cheering on Thomas Ian Griffith from The Karate Kid Part III (1989) who was supposed to be the bad guy as the head vampire while simultaneously hoping that bad things happened to James Woods' character. This was the movie that ended my interest in anything *new* that was John Carpenter related, which is sad because I thought that Escape From L.A. (1996) was clever and entertaining despite being bad.


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: pennywise37 on August 05, 2020, 01:32:15 AM
i like Godfather part 3 (1990) not love like it's an okay film but i don't think the directors daughter is what hurt the film despite what people may think, she was okay in some of the film and she was well not so good in other parts. but yes it is the weakest one of them all.

The Doom Generation (1995)  one word well okay more than one piece of Sh*t WOW was this movie beyond bad it's so bad that it makes Troll 2 look good.
course it is a better film by far than Troll 2 course most films are regardless how bad they are.  with Vampires (1998) that has a very good reason why that was a mess and honestly it started out pretty out strong than fell apart, if i recall it wasn't even Carpenter's fault at all not this time anyways it i believe was the studio i think. there were issues behind the scenes so what we got was a hot mess on what was based off a book that is really a great read i hear.  or was it based off a comic? i forget honestly. but it's a masterpiece compared to it's (2002) sequel that one is really bad and i like Jon Bon Jovi as an actor and he was fine in the role but it was the script not the acting on that one.

The Karate Kid Part 3 (1989) i enjoy i forget which one that even is to be honest, honestly i like all 4 of them the 4th one has it's moments but it's not a fantastic film it's a decent one.  it wasn't as bad as i thought it would be to be fair


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: zombie no.one on August 05, 2020, 01:43:01 AM
burn while reading has so much bad acting it was painful, Frances McDormand wasn't terrible in it but Clooney and Pitt were i think.
well I guess I really am polarized here, because it is literally the only film with George Clooney I've ever seen where I actually like his performance. I usually find him to be a bit of a smarmy airhead (I guess he is in this film too, but here it seems intentional). and it's also the only film apart from SE7EN where I actually enjoy Brad Pitt's performance as well.. he does seem a bit out of his depth but there's something laughably ridiculous and dorky about his character imo

btw it's BURN AFTER READING, I've seen you say 'While' in 2 different threads now - sorry to be pedantic  :wink:


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: pennywise37 on August 05, 2020, 02:26:32 AM
oh okay, yeah i thought Clooney was simply dreadful in that and i'm not mad that you corrected me, i last saw the film in (2008) when it 1st came out
and i haven't seen it since, i guess the film is that forgettable to me that i never can remember it's actual title. i'm glad you liked it don't get me wrong

it just didn't do anything for me that's all though i did really have a good laugh when Clooney opened that door at the end  that easily was the best part of the entire movie for me. it made me think of that one scene in Pulp Fiction (1994) where i could not stop laughing as wel.

another film i thought was utter dreck was Stuart Gordon's Dagon (2001) i'm not even sure on the spelling i watched it years ago with high hopes case i had been dying to see it for years and i hated it. i love Gordon don't get me wrong but i consider it one of his worst films yet there's another one that many seem to love go figure.


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: zombie no.one on August 05, 2020, 06:46:58 AM
i guess the film is that forgettable to me that i never can remember it's actual title. i'm glad you liked it don't get me wrong

it just didn't do anything for me that's all

all good...   you're not alone in disliking it, tons of coen bros fans don't like it either (going by the imdb reviews).


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: Gabriel Knight on August 05, 2020, 07:20:02 AM
Godfather Part III (1990) might be considered an easy target, but even if Winona Ryder had stayed in the movie instead of Sofia Coppola having only 2 weeks to prep for that role as Ryder's replacement, the movie itself still would have been terrible; Sofia Coppola took the brunt of that movie's criticism in 1990 because she was clearly not fit to be given such a prominent role in that movie. It was just all around bad, the acting was just forced and ho-hum at times, the movie was about one hour too long, and I personally thought it was hilarious that Talia Shire was reduced to reprising her Adrian Balboa acting schtick to salvage something out of her role as Connie Corleone, because that was who she reminded me of. Francis Ford Coppola really batted a no-hitter with this one, which is regrettable because this was supposed to be the end to a fantastic trilogy, not leaving you with a bad taste in your mouth.

Another film that I couldn't get behind was John Carpenter's Vampires (1998). Which is funny because I tried to like this movie; all my friends and the edgy movie gurus of the late '90s who lived and breathed every word that puked out of Quentin Tarantino's mouth -- you know the ones that thought that The Doom Generation (1995) was some kind of masterpiece -- would say nothing but good things about Vampires, but as a kid that was raised on The Thing (1982), Halloween (1978), and Christine (1983) among others, I hold John Carpenter to a much higher standard than the hot mess that was Vampires. The movie had a terrible plot, terrible writing for all the really good actors that must have been hard-up for money in the late '90s to have agreed to participate in this hot garbage pile; even the overall premise of biker vampire hunters just seemed like something that John Carpenter dreamed up while drunk and stoned one night. James Woods should have shined in a crap role like this, but he was arguably the worst part of the movie because his character was just so unlikeable and made no sense half the time. It's bad when you find yourself cheering on Thomas Ian Griffith from The Karate Kid Part III (1989) who was supposed to be the bad guy as the head vampire while simultaneously hoping that bad things happened to James Woods' character. This was the movie that ended my interest in anything *new* that was John Carpenter related, which is sad because I thought that Escape From L.A. (1996) was clever and entertaining despite being bad.

Hey, I thought VAMPIRES was really cool! I mean, it's cheesy, but come on, it's a vampires movie, what can you expect? The idea was to mix a western with modern bloodsuckers, and I think it turned out extremely entertaining. The theme song is very catchy also.


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: Trevor on August 05, 2020, 10:59:50 AM
Heaven's Gate: liked Thunderbolt & Lightfoot and The Deer Hunter but not Heaven's Gate.


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: pennywise37 on August 05, 2020, 07:21:15 PM
vampires started out pretty strong actually but about halfway or so it fell apart or maybe it was sooner than that i'm really not sure, i love a good vampire flix but Vampires (1998) wasn't one of the good ones sadly.  i think part of the reason it fell apart also had to do with James Woods i think?

i have not seen Heaven's gate (1980) to be fair so i can't say how good or how bad it was


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: kornula on August 06, 2020, 11:18:50 AM
Robert Altman gave us;  Brewster McCloud, MASH, The Player and ...

POPEYE.

I had not seen it since I first saw it in the theater in 1980 with my mother. I remember having to literally nudge her awake half way through. She went right back to sleep.  For some reason, I could not escape the horror like she did. 

I saw it again a month ago.  It was equally as bad as I remember.


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: pennywise37 on August 07, 2020, 04:08:33 AM
i loved it as a kid but i dunno about now but than i'm a huge Robin Williams fan as well and i think even he hated the film as well.


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: Allhallowsday on August 10, 2020, 12:22:45 PM
Not a bad movie, but Stanley Kubrick’s Barry Lyndon could have been much better with some tweaks. Most notably not casting Ryan O’Neal in the lead. For context this was only a few years removed from A Clockwork Orange, which in my opinion is Kubrick’s best film. Malcolm McDowell wanted to work with Kubrick again and would have been perfect in that role.

How you choose Ryan O’Neal over Malcolm McDowell is beyond me.
 

Because RYAN O'NEAL was perfect for that part of a self-serving wannabe.   
MALCOLM McDOWELL?  Wah-rong. 


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: dcj2112 on August 10, 2020, 01:11:43 PM
Not a bad movie, but Stanley Kubrick’s Barry Lyndon could have been much better with some tweaks. Most notably not casting Ryan O’Neal in the lead. For context this was only a few years removed from A Clockwork Orange, which in my opinion is Kubrick’s best film. Malcolm McDowell wanted to work with Kubrick again and would have been perfect in that role.

How you choose Ryan O’Neal over Malcolm McDowell is beyond me.
 

Because RYAN O'NEAL was perfect for that part of a self-serving wannabe.   
MALCOLM McDOWELL?  Wah-rong. 


A certain clip from Tough Guys Don’t Dance proves any attempt to defend Ryan O’Neal’s acting is Wah-rong.


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: claws on August 10, 2020, 01:46:43 PM
Martin Brest.

 1. Scent of a Woman (1992)
 2. Midnight Run (1988)
 3. Beverly Hills Cop (1984)
 4. Meet Joe Black (1998)
 5. Going in Style (1979)
 6. Hot Tomorrows (1977)


7. Gigli (2003)


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: dcj2112 on August 10, 2020, 03:32:31 PM
Martin Brest.

 1. Scent of a Woman (1992)
 2. Midnight Run (1988)
 3. Beverly Hills Cop (1984)
 4. Meet Joe Black (1998)
 5. Going in Style (1979)
 6. Hot Tomorrows (1977)


7. Gigli (2003)

And he hasn’t directed a movie since!

Anyone know what’s up with that beyond just Gigli? I thought I remembered reading he went through a messy divorce or some other scandal but a quick Google search and Wiki browse shows nothing.

As bad as that movie’s reputation is, some directors have bounced back from bad stuff. I can’t say they’ve bounced back from worse because I’ve still yet to see it...and it’s reputation is putrid.

Speaking of Brest I’ve heard he was a real jerk to work with. I believe it was Eli Roth who told a story about him on Howard Stern. Back when Roth was a nobody he worked as an extra on Meet Joe Black. The extras were standing around and Brest fired Roth in front of everyone for no reason. Roth interpreted it as just a way to flaunt his power. Also, after shooting scenes he would smugly say to his crew, “That’s the Oscar shot” which just sounds so douchey.

Scent of a Woman was awesome though  :smile:


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: pennywise37 on August 10, 2020, 08:18:13 PM
1stly during the filming of that he wanted to film in one of Agent Orange aka Bunker Boy hotels but his rule was if you film at any of his hotels he's gotta have a cameo so he told Trump no he's not getting a cameo hence therefore he didn't use one of his hotels that's a guy i can respect even if he can be a douche.

funny you mention him i listened to his Audio Commentary for Beverly Hills Cop (1984) well the blu-ray anyways it was pretty good, funny thing he apparently is the clerk at the end of the film and he said there's the worst actor in the whole movie and it wasn't a bad performance either it was funny at least he could have a sense of humor on that.

but  a director that was hurt by another film 'Batman & Robin (1997) Joel S.  well that was his biggest flop that's true but he did do successful films after that such as Phantom of the Opera (2004) that was a huge hit i believe so it didn't kill his career. but what's funny on him is i was watching a stream with Kevin Smith awhile ago and apparently Joel S. is a guy who literally slept with thousands of guys no joke they did the mat and he died at 80 i think so Kevin did the math and he said going by age 20 that's 60 years that's i think he said 17,000 different people he's slept with, there's more i left out cause it's been awhile but that's just plain wrong for anyone to get a number that high.

which explains why his filmography isn't bigger than it is lol


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: zelmo73 on August 10, 2020, 08:43:18 PM
Godfather Part III (1990) might be considered an easy target, but even if Winona Ryder had stayed in the movie instead of Sofia Coppola having only 2 weeks to prep for that role as Ryder's replacement, the movie itself still would have been terrible; Sofia Coppola took the brunt of that movie's criticism in 1990 because she was clearly not fit to be given such a prominent role in that movie. It was just all around bad, the acting was just forced and ho-hum at times, the movie was about one hour too long, and I personally thought it was hilarious that Talia Shire was reduced to reprising her Adrian Balboa acting schtick to salvage something out of her role as Connie Corleone, because that was who she reminded me of. Francis Ford Coppola really batted a no-hitter with this one, which is regrettable because this was supposed to be the end to a fantastic trilogy, not leaving you with a bad taste in your mouth.

Another film that I couldn't get behind was John Carpenter's Vampires (1998). Which is funny because I tried to like this movie; all my friends and the edgy movie gurus of the late '90s who lived and breathed every word that puked out of Quentin Tarantino's mouth -- you know the ones that thought that The Doom Generation (1995) was some kind of masterpiece -- would say nothing but good things about Vampires, but as a kid that was raised on The Thing (1982), Halloween (1978), and Christine (1983) among others, I hold John Carpenter to a much higher standard than the hot mess that was Vampires. The movie had a terrible plot, terrible writing for all the really good actors that must have been hard-up for money in the late '90s to have agreed to participate in this hot garbage pile; even the overall premise of biker vampire hunters just seemed like something that John Carpenter dreamed up while drunk and stoned one night. James Woods should have shined in a crap role like this, but he was arguably the worst part of the movie because his character was just so unlikeable and made no sense half the time. It's bad when you find yourself cheering on Thomas Ian Griffith from The Karate Kid Part III (1989) who was supposed to be the bad guy as the head vampire while simultaneously hoping that bad things happened to James Woods' character. This was the movie that ended my interest in anything *new* that was John Carpenter related, which is sad because I thought that Escape From L.A. (1996) was clever and entertaining despite being bad.

Hey, I thought VAMPIRES was really cool! I mean, it's cheesy, but come on, it's a vampires movie, what can you expect? The idea was to mix a western with modern bloodsuckers, and I think it turned out extremely entertaining. The theme song is very catchy also.

Yes, you are correct. The music in the movie was great. I remember renting the movie in 1999 (or maybe it was already on cable TV by then) when I told my buddy afterward, something like "well at least it had a good soundtrack".  :cheers:


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: kornula on August 27, 2020, 05:31:51 PM
David Lynch also gave us "Wild at Heart" with Nicholas Cage.

Some fiends lent me their VHS copy.  It took me a month to watch it as I could only stomach 5 minutes at a time.   When I was done, I offered to give their copy back...but they insisted I keep it.


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: ER on August 28, 2020, 12:10:00 AM
I agree with Bob, North, by Rob Reiner. He was on a roll with a streak of great movies, and then he wiped out and face planted in the gravel with North, and hasn't been that good since.


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: zombie no.one on August 28, 2020, 04:55:16 AM
David Lynch also gave us "Wild at Heart" with Nicholas Cage.

Some fiends lent me their VHS copy.  It took me a month to watch it as I could only stomach 5 minutes at a time.   When I was done, I offered to give their copy back...but they insisted I keep it.

my favourite Lynch film, haha... not even a Nic Cage fan usually


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: bob on August 28, 2020, 06:48:07 PM
Jack directed by Francis Ford Coppola

War of the Worlds (2005) directed by Steven Spielberg


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: zelmo73 on August 29, 2020, 06:45:15 PM
War of the Worlds (2005) directed by Steven Spielberg

Someone should get revenge for that pointless remake by remaking Jaws (1975) but with Tom Cruise as Quint, just to rub Spielberg’s nose in it.  :teddyr:


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: LilCerberus on August 29, 2020, 06:58:31 PM
War of the Worlds (2005) directed by Steven Spielberg

Someone should get revenge for that pointless remake by remaking Jaws (1975) but with Tom Cruise as Quint, just to rub Spielberg’s nose in it.  :teddyr:

A local actor, Kahil Dotay, was in a short poking fun at the making of Jaws.... Called The Courage Of Stupidity I think... Dotay always makes something big, then shelves it because he doesn't want it getting ripped off or something...

As for WOTW, I think Timbo Hines got revenge with his overhyped, ridiculously bad little direct to video opus.......


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: Askmeoffers99 on September 02, 2020, 02:53:51 AM
I figured the movie was going to be about those drug dealers and that ugly mofo was going to be part of it, that would have made it a much better movie if it were to be honest like that. But yes, I was bored out of my mind and I said to myself, "Where's Josh Brolin at some point?" Why isn't he finishing the film? Ok, I came home and looked up at the boards of the IMDB that were still around.

Wow, I 'm missing those and I had to make someone remind me that he was killed and shot where you can't see him get killed at all. But I've been thinking uh oh kay .....

When I told my mom not to rent it when it came out, she ignored me and it didn't take her 2 days to watch my dad sleep on it, but he could sleep on it. But he said it was boring as well as having to pay a late fee for my mom! When a friend of her rented it and also regretted it after she had been told it was bad she also regretted it.  refer Askmoffers.com


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: RCMerchant on September 02, 2020, 08:57:32 PM
What???? I smell spam.


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: RCMerchant on September 02, 2020, 09:03:06 PM
What???? I smell spam.
It's really bad spamming. Josh Brolin? It's cut and paste. 'Askmeoffers'. Ask me offers?



Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: BoyScoutKevin on September 17, 2020, 05:43:08 PM
Not so much a bad movie, but, I think a disappointment from the late, great George Pal, who was partially responsible for two of the greatest science fiction films of the '50s and '60s. 1953's War of the Worlds and 1960s' The Time Machine, but, for me, where he excelled was in his fantasy films, especially 1958's tom thumb and 1964's The 7 Faces of Doctor Lao. The latter has an interesting history, as one of those films that failed at the box office, but is now considered a cult classic. Based upon Charles G. Finney's The Circus of Doctor Lao, which I have not read, but, is supposedly a much darker tale than the film. They wanted Peter Sellers for Doctor Lao, but, he was too expensive, so they got Tony Randall, who actually turned in one of the best performances of his career.

As for the disappointment it is his last film Doc Savage the Man of Bronze with Ron "Tarzan" Ely as the title character and based on the series by Henry W. Ralston. Again a bit of personal history plays into this; for, when I was in grad school my roommate had a whole slew of these. He must have had every one in the series, he was so fond of 'em. As for myself, I never could get into it.
There was a couple of thoughts to so a sequel, first, Doc Savage : the Arch Enemy of Evil, then there was the Doc Savage meets King Kong idea for a film, but, the original never did enough business to justify a sequel.

He only made about a dozen films, and I wish he had made more, as I have seen most of them and liked them all except for his last film.


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: pennywise37 on October 25, 2020, 02:03:43 PM
it's funny how that works out sometimes ya know? Dr. Lao (1964) i haven't seen that one yet but do have it around here somewhere and it is on my list to watch actually well it's only a copy of it i think  i taped it off tv or something


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: Rev. Powell on October 25, 2020, 02:23:35 PM
What???? I smell spam.
It's really bad spamming. Josh Brolin? It's cut and paste. 'Askmeoffers'. Ask me offers?



Feel free to hit the little link marked "report to moderators" when you see something like this.


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: Trevor on October 25, 2020, 04:28:32 PM
Quote from: kornula link=topic=155288.msg653787#msg653787 date=1598567511
Some fiends lent me their VHS copy.
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Some fiends you have  :wink:


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: Trevor on October 25, 2020, 04:31:36 PM
Dead Bang (1989) directed by John Frankenheimer.


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: pennywise37 on October 25, 2020, 06:42:48 PM
really? that's one of my favorite films to be honest


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: RCMerchant on October 26, 2020, 07:05:16 AM
Speaking of John Frankenheimer- the PROPHECY (1979)
The one with the the mutated bear.


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: pennywise37 on October 26, 2020, 06:22:32 PM
that one i have not seen well not yet anyways but i'll get to it eventually


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: RCMerchant on October 26, 2020, 06:32:51 PM
that one i have not seen well not yet anyways but i'll get to it eventually


It's pretty bad, but I love it!

http://youtu.be/8FOuhUa8u9I (http://youtu.be/8FOuhUa8u9I)


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: pennywise37 on October 27, 2020, 08:10:07 PM
that's me with certain films too like Leonard Part 6 (1987) a film that has been spoken about before i love the film but it is a terrible film i enjoy the hell out of it. it still makes me laugh. it's not as bad as they say it is but it is a film that's so bad it's good so maybe i'm biased i dunno lol


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: kornula on November 08, 2020, 04:44:11 PM
i loved it as a kid but i dunno about now but than i'm a huge Robin Williams fan as well and i think even he hated the film as well.

The major problem with POPEYE is that it goes to great lenghts to emulate the original cartoons much as possible - especially the slapstick gags. While they work for animation, it just looks silly with live action.


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: kornula on November 08, 2020, 04:46:10 PM
David Lynch also gave us "Wild at Heart" with Nicholas Cage.

Some fiends lent me their VHS copy.  It took me a month to watch it as I could only stomach 5 minutes at a time.   When I was done, I offered to give their copy back...but they insisted I keep it.

my favourite Lynch film, haha... not even a Nic Cage fan usually

You are the second person on earth who says they like "Wild At heart"  :P


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: RCMerchant on November 08, 2020, 06:14:36 PM
Make it 3!


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: Allhallowsday on November 08, 2020, 06:46:39 PM
Make it 3!
Make it 4.  HATED the opening scene, had to see the rest, but eventually appreciated whatever the hell that is. 


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: kornula on November 09, 2020, 09:10:28 PM
So much love for "Wild At Heart"

.. who knew?


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: zombie no.one on November 10, 2020, 12:03:26 PM
never really understood the hate tbh... I mean, it's not just my fav Lynch movie, it's probably in my all time top 10 movies (or hovering close to)

Lynch lost me with LOST HIGHWAY and INLAND EMPIRE. can't get into those 2 at all... IE is so badly made? almost like it was shot on camcorder. nothing worked, for me... my brother loves it tho


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: RCMerchant on November 10, 2020, 12:42:33 PM
John Boorman (DELIVERANCE, EXCALIBUR, POINT PLANK et al.) did the EXORCIST II : THE HERETIC (1977), which is a laughable piece 'o' s**t.


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: kornula on November 10, 2020, 07:51:14 PM
never really understood the hate tbh... I mean, it's not just my fav Lynch movie, it's probably in my all time top 10 movies (or hovering close to)

Lynch lost me with LOST HIGHWAY and INLAND EMPIRE. can't get into those 2 at all... IE is so badly made? almost like it was shot on camcorder. nothing worked, for me... my brother loves it tho

I have yet to watch "Inland Empire"  My roommate has a much higher tolerance for sitting through bad movies than I do..and he HATES Inland Empire.


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: Rev. Powell on November 10, 2020, 08:50:14 PM
Make it 3!
Make it 4.  HATED the opening scene, had to see the rest, but eventually appreciated whatever the hell that is. 

5, although it's not my favorite Lynch.


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: Rev. Powell on November 10, 2020, 08:53:47 PM
never really understood the hate tbh... I mean, it's not just my fav Lynch movie, it's probably in my all time top 10 movies (or hovering close to)

Lynch lost me with LOST HIGHWAY and INLAND EMPIRE. can't get into those 2 at all... IE is so badly made? almost like it was shot on camcorder. nothing worked, for me... my brother loves it tho

I have yet to watch "Inland Empire"  My roommate has a much higher tolerance for sitting through bad movies than I do..and he HATES Inland Empire.

INLAND EMPIRE is not a bad movie, but it's aimed at a very specialized audience. Most people should stay away from it. It's Lynch's most surreal feature, making LOST HIGHWAY look completely straightforward.


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: kornula on November 11, 2020, 08:16:06 PM
I have seen every Terry Gilliam film ...except "Brothers Grimm"  Has anyone here seen it and is it as bad as the reviews say?


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: LilCerberus on November 18, 2020, 08:54:55 PM
Would The Seven Minutes (1971) count?
Russ Meyer's courtroom drama about free speech......


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: RCMerchant on November 18, 2020, 09:23:21 PM
^ I would think so.
It's Russ Meyer- I wait... and waiting... nothing.
(for boobies).  :bluesad:


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: LilCerberus on November 18, 2020, 09:46:29 PM
^ I would think so.
It's Russ Meyer- I wait... and waiting... nothing.
(for boobies).  :bluesad:

Eh, one pair in a tight turtleneck, about two or three times in this movie.... Kinda my bag....

It was more like the the totally illogical scene with the psychiatrist, or the ending reminded me of the courtroom scene in Oversexed Rugsuckers From Mars when Vernon fills in a major plot hole!  I'm like, "How the heck does this woman's testimony actually solve everybody's problems?"


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: RCMerchant on November 18, 2020, 10:03:59 PM
 All I want from a Russ Meyer movie is crazy girls with fast cars!

http://youtu.be/cNABS8_aNlE (http://youtu.be/cNABS8_aNlE)


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: pennywise37 on March 09, 2021, 11:05:06 PM
hitch is my favorite director of all time and i consider him a Genius but that's my own opinion anyways he did some pretty bad ones too and he would agree with me on that if he were still alive. Murder (1930) was a pretty bad one i think, i don't remember if i said that one in the past before my apologies if i have.

there's plenty of movies that directors i like that i did movies i just didn't like and they are much loved like Taxi Driver (1976) is considered a classic by many but i have watched it a few times and i just think it's a terrible film. so i doubt there will be anyone on here who agrees with me because most people love it and oh well

i guess, if that's the case than so be it well all i got to say is that i tried watching it more than once i wanted to love it i really did but sadly i did not but Deniro is wonderful in it though


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: bob on March 10, 2021, 12:10:37 AM
John Carpenter's Ghosts of Mars


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: Trevor on March 10, 2021, 12:35:56 AM
Richard Attenborough's Cry Freedom   :tongueout:


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: RCMerchant on March 10, 2021, 07:18:17 AM
I always thought Ed Wood was a genius without talent.
That's not a cut down. I love his movies.

The only reason they are so fun to watch today is Bela Lugosi.
And Tor!
And Vampira-!
Just the feeling of family working together on a 'Our Gang' lets make a movie!

http://youtu.be/0cE1fzfOogo (http://youtu.be/0cE1fzfOogo)


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: Allhallowsday on March 10, 2021, 05:11:54 PM
ROBERT ALTMAN : QUINTET

It's broadcast often; I first saw it on cable TV around 1980.  TCM shows it and another channel (sometimes day after day in the less lucrative midday slot).

It's not like any of his other films, mainly for story and the way it's shot. 

Boring.  Tedious.  Chilling (literally).  Mean spirited.  But ultimately pointless.  ALTMAN gets speculative dystopian.  Of course, I like it.  Sort of.


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: Trevor on March 10, 2021, 06:28:54 PM
The Island of Dr Moreau directed by John Frankenheimer. Say no more 💩🥴😝


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: Gabriel Knight on March 11, 2021, 07:36:19 AM
John Carpenter's Ghosts of Mars

I'm a big fan of Carpenter's movies, and I watched GHOSTS OF MARS not long ago. Honestly, I don't think it's as bad as everyone says. I actually enjoyed it, it has the same amount of cheese and tongue-in-cheek of ESCAPE FROM L.A. and VAMPIRES, in some parts actually spoofing the tropes you see in really big budget movies, and it's definitely loads of fun.

I think his movies need to be watched another time after the first one, they grow on you.


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: kornula on March 11, 2021, 03:15:51 PM
The Island of Dr Moreau directed by John Frankenheimer. Say no more 💩🥴😝

I finally broke down and watched "Dr. Moreau" 6 months ago.  I heard it was one of the worst movies ever made.  I was expecting it to be a huge pile of unwatchableness.. turns out, it was silly but entertaining.
I watched the documentary on how the production went into a huge mess that lasted over a year.  Watching it probably gave me huge expectations it was going to be a disaster. turns out watching it first gave me an appreication for how it did not totally suck. Not the best movie in the world IMHO, (we all know there are MUCH WORSE movies *cough*Godfry Ho movies)   I wouldn't reccomend it..but It doesn't suck outright.


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: pennywise37 on March 11, 2021, 08:27:35 PM
i haven't seen it so i can't say how good or bad it is to be fair, and i really haven't seen that much of Ed Wood's films.  honestly i never thought he was that bad of a director, now the guy may have been a decent director and i have seen far worse films with lesser directors. but the reason people love him so much was cause he was a guy who thought he had actual talent and so there's love in the making of the films. and that i think helps the films be a bit better even if the movie is crap ya know? 

Plan 9 from outer space (1959) isn't the worse ever made as i've seen far worse films well that's my take on it anyways


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: kornula on March 12, 2021, 12:18:50 AM
Dario Argento... there's a lot of places I could go here, but THE CARD PLAYER is really bad. really hard to take on 1st viewing, on 2nd viewing I quite enjoyed its badness


I don't think I could do a second viewing of THE CARD PLAYER...but I have watched worse - more than once


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: pennywise37 on March 12, 2021, 01:35:41 AM
i dunno why but i just haven't seen a film of his i love, i'm not saying everything he's done is terrible at all, creepers which is the version i saw it as (1985) was a decent one but i haven't seen the Original version though.  Demons (1985) i rented that years ago and i thought while the makeup was great as was the gore the film was terrible but not as bad as it's sequel (1988) 

or am i thinking of the wrong guy? my apologies if i am


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: RCMerchant on March 12, 2021, 08:35:58 AM
Argento did not direct DEMONS- he produced it.
Lamberto Bava did.


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: pennywise37 on March 16, 2021, 02:03:32 AM
oh okay well could not remember and i didn't look it up so thank you.

i watched a really bad one the other nite called Wild Horses (2015) with Robert Duvall,  Josh Harnett and James Franco and Duvall not only wrote it and starred in it he directed it. & the film was utter s**t WOW was it bad, not one of Duvall's best performances and Harnett was decent but the one that really made it watchable was Franco now he was good in it.

do not watch this movie man it's easily one of their worst i think i gave it a 3/10


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: zelmo73 on May 09, 2021, 06:14:26 AM
Godfather Part III (1990) might be considered an easy target, but even if Winona Ryder had stayed in the movie instead of Sofia Coppola having only 2 weeks to prep for that role as Ryder's replacement, the movie itself still would have been terrible; Sofia Coppola took the brunt of that movie's criticism in 1990 because she was clearly not fit to be given such a prominent role in that movie. It was just all around bad, the acting was just forced and ho-hum at times, the movie was about one hour too long, and I personally thought it was hilarious that Talia Shire was reduced to reprising her Adrian Balboa acting schtick to salvage something out of her role as Connie Corleone, because that was who she reminded me of. Francis Ford Coppola really batted a no-hitter with this one, which is regrettable because this was supposed to be the end to a fantastic trilogy, not leaving you with a bad taste in your mouth.

I took a chance back in January and bought The Godfather, Coda: The Death of Michael Corleone (2020). I'm not sure what all that Coppola did to "fix" his movie, but it is a much more watchable film than his original. He basically just moved a few sequences around; one that took place about a half hour into the film now starts it off, but a lot of the rest of the movie is the same as the original 1990 version. I still prefer the first two films to this one, but now this newer version of the 3rd movie is not as bad as it used to be.


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: pennywise37 on May 20, 2021, 02:40:29 AM
i read an interview he did and he said one thing he wanted to do with his new cut was to have his daughter have a bigger part cause he thinks people give her too much for for the film. weather he did that i dunno or weather he was right i dunno that either as i haven't seen it either


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: claws on May 20, 2021, 05:42:09 AM
Acclaimed director Jonathan Demme's The Truth About Charlie (2002) seems to be his biggest flop. Never seen it myself but the IMDb score is very low.


Title: Re: Bad Movies By Good Directors
Post by: pennywise37 on June 04, 2021, 07:05:58 PM
i haven't seen that one either myself i'm a fan of his too, i love Joe Dante but The Civil War ?i think it's called an HBO made for tv movie from (1997) i bought the VHS years ago and  at the time watched it with my mom and i thought it was terrible and so did she.

the movie is that forgettable i'm not even sure on it's title i mean if i even got it right. but that one has it's fans as i've seen people say online how it's a favorite of theirs go figure.