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The Associate Justice of the Supreme Court appointed by President Clinton passed away at the age of 87.
While I disagreed with her on many matters of governmental policy, I admired her feisty spirit and personal integrity.
I also liked the fact that her closest friend on the court was her polar opposite in judicial philosophy, Justice Antonin Scalia.

Here's to the example they set: That political and ideological adversaries need not be enemies, and that Americans who differ from us are still Americans.
Good night, Ruth, and rest well.

I thought that was a nice summation, indy.

I always thought it was mean of Conan to superimpose her face on pictures of Gollum.

Thank you, my friend!

Ruth Bader Ginsberg is and always will be a credit to the judicial system and an example of what it can and should be.

I am proud of the lady, and a longtime admirer.  Good night RUTH, you warranted the respect any person could muster.  God bless you! 

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well, obviously Roe v Wade is now on the front burner. It's not considered a brilliant decision. At the same time, 70% of Americans don't want it overturned. From what I've been reading, look for Trump to nominate a relative moderate.

Look up Judge Amy Coney Barrett. The right is really pushing for her as a frontrunner to replace Ginsburg because Barrett is a pro-lifer. Yet apparently even Barrett believes that Roe Vs Wade will not be overturned even if she were appointed to the Supreme Court. It doesn’t really matter much anyway because abortion clinics are never going to go away regardless. Roe vs Wade has only ever been used as a scare tactic to get more liberal judges nominated and appointed in federal courts; it was never about the abortions themselves when you think about it.

Interesting. 

I've long said that neither political party seriously wants to abolish abortion - it's too useful to them as a recruiting tool.

zelmo -I've read that she believes in recusing herself from issues related to Catholicism ?


indiana = well of course the democrats don't, but probably accurate on republicans too.

If she was too sick to do her job the last year or so, she should have stepped down. Work ethic 101.

This came to mind!  :bouncegiggle:

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-" but stupid! "

(That was Artie's catch phrase)

^  :bouncegiggle:

No.  You thought it was funny.   :smile:


What about ANTONIN SCALIA?  Why don't you admit the obvious? 

Scalia was stricken down by a heart attack - he had been quite vigorous and active up till his death.
He was on a hunting trip when he died, as I recall.

Pick a fight with someone else, John. If I'm going to dirty my hands squabbling, it should at least be an intellectual challenge.

Not picking a fight, Evie, just noticing your two knocks.  It's like you knocking the Pope 'cause I praised him.  This is America; our greatest freedom is of speech.   We're good and your insult is duly noted.  :thumbup:

And what was your reasoning for calling me a liar, john, when I said I thought a comic making fun of an elderly woman's appearance was wrong?

As for Associate Justice Ginsburg failing to resign from the court when she was too ill to do the job, in what way do you doubt me, and how could you disagree? If someone can't do a job, that person should resign, true of plumbers or judges.

I don't like you accusing me of insincerity.

I did not call you "a liar", but I will own "dim wit".  I didn't "accuse" you of anything.   You're silly!  We're good.   :thumbup:

Somebody on Tumblr drew this picture.

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The reason Trump is strong-arming a Justice is because if he loses- he wants the court on his side. He thinks they will back him if he loses. He's going to contest the election if he loses.
 Won't happen no matter what. Not all people are as shallow as him. He forgets that most folks who were on his side now are under arrest or quit. Or writing books, so history won't view them as scumbags (Cohen).
If he throws his friends and business buddies under the bus- you really think he gives a f**k about you?
The guy is grabbing at straws. He's done.
 it's just a matter of time.

replacing justices is the job of the president. not sure what the tumolt is abuot

And now Nancy Pelosi is talking about impeaching Trump if he fulfills his constitutional duty as the President of the United States to appoint another Supreme Court Justice to replace her.  :lookingup:

Meanwhile OBAMA is denied the opportunity since it was "an election year". 

What he said.

is that a rule?

No- but it is hypocritical. You know the meaning of that word, right?
Maybe you don't.  :lookingup:
What's good for the goose ain't good for the gander?
You know what that means, right?

Trump has the right. I don't care who he appoints. Nothing is going to save his sinking boat. Once that person is in, I'll bet you dollars to donuts they distance themselves real quick.
And even bringing in 'constitutional' duties is absurd. This shmuck flaunts the constitution every other day.

Nothing was stopping Obama from nominating someone anyway...well, aside from being a weak sauce President. Maybe he had to get his boy Michelle’s permission first.  :teddyr:

Obama MADE a nomination - and the Senate wouldn't give his candidate, Merrick Garland, an up or down vote.
They let his nomination die in committee because it was an election year, even though the election was seven months away.
That's why people are mad - the same bunch that insisted the people should have a say in the composition of the court when the election was six months off are now insisting that the people should have NO voice, when the election is six weeks away.

Trump is gonna take heat for this no matter what he does.  If he pushes the nomination through before the election, furious liberals will turn out in droves, and wavering conservatives will see less reason to vote for him, since the only reason many principled people have supported him is the fact that they want a more conservative court.

If he decides to wait till after the election, he will anger his base, motivate Biden supporters to turn out so they can secure Ginsberg's seat for a liberal, but he will possibly pick up a few conservative leaning waverers.

But either way, I think he will anger more people than he pleases.

On the contrary, I believe that most conservatives are happy that Ginsburg is finally out of the way and not wasting a spot on the Supreme Court, and that she will be replaced by a conservative and that the Supreme Court will lean more to the right for the foreseeable future. People may not like Trump that much, heck I don’t even like him, but no one can deny the fact that things are now looking much better for conservatives now that Ginsburg is gone from the highest court in the land.

America is roughly 40% right, 40% left, and about 20% in the middle.
I think the court functions best, historically, when its ideological balance reflects that of the country.
When everyone is represented, no one feels left out. 
To say Ginsberg "wasted" a spot on the court is to spit on her legacy and to write off the views of a large portion of our country.

Oh spare me the melodrama! If you’re too sick to work then stay tf home. Ginsberg was nothing more or less than a public servant, and you’re treating her like she was the Mother Teresa. She should have been put out to pasture during the 2nd term of the Obama Administration, but the Democrats only pressured her to stay on the SCOTUS because they were certain that President Hillary was going to be the one to retire Ginsberg. Rest In Peace, but the old dingbat had outlived her usefulness a few years ago, just like some of these old fossils from yesteryear:


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I love how you dig up s**t on folks you don't like, but ignore your hero's bulls**t. Nobody takes you serious.
Your a joke.

Why should I help you trash our President? You do such a fine job of coming up with b.s. all on your own.

You don't have to help him. Your president does a good enough job of that all by himself.

We should all know being a "babbling idiot" does not disqualify a person from holding office in the US of A.

Yep, from the last 6 months of Joe's incoherent ramblings... I'd say you are correct  :thumbup:

Sadly, I don't make his B.S. up. I don't have to. He does a good job of burying himself.

Where we are right now is not because of Joe Biden. He's NOT the President. I'm not a big fan of Biden myself.
I DO like Kamala Harris, though.

I understand, but I'm just agreeing with Newt  :thumbup:

a lot of stupid things going on in office for a long time, no?

Yes. Nixon, Clinton, Trump.
Even when he wasn't President, I didn't like Donald Trump. A rich boy con artist. Do you know his history? Trump University? His bankruptcies when he got bailed out buy Russian banks?
He is not rich because of his business savy- he's rich because of his daddy and Russian bankers- which is why he loves Russia so much.

i dont know about Nixon  :question:

Russia? didn't Hunter Biden received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, the richest woman in Russia? what was that all about?

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well I better read up on Nixon then...

You focus on this- but ignore Trump's Russian connections? Making the other guy look bad does not erase what you have done.
If I rob a bank, and turn in my co-horts doesn't make me a good guy.
Calling the kettle black doesn't work . Perhaps it does- but it shouldn't.

The full release of all the evidence was never given to the public thanks to Ken Barr.
He was buddies with the Russians long before he was President.

I got to research that, didn't know  :thumbup:

I just want folks to be aware of who they support.
READ. Read a book! Folks nowadays seem to get they're info on the fly. Sound bites. It's real sad. It's like people embrace stupidity. Makes me want to cry or just beat my head into a wall.

Well... I totally agree with you. But couldn't you argue that would be to both sides?

I would, if the other side had a valid argument.
READ A BOOK.

The Russia thing was fake, don't bother researching it.

If Trump wanted to be nice he could put off the pick, but he's going to be re elected anyway

Don't research. Obey your masters.

Honestly, that's like me repeating what I so often heard in college in New England: "All Canadians do is whine, whine, whine about their betters while they send their sick old people down here for medical treatment out of their joke of a health care system and come down and get drunk and brag about their hockey teams and try to pick up American women who think they're pale, ski cap wearing clods."

I thought that was a mean thing for locals to say about Canadians, most of whom have always seemed nice to me. (With exceptions.)

Cheap shots at another person's country aren't good breeding and don't reflect well on upbringing. Constructive criticism... perhaps, but if you're a foreigner and not part of a nation, what reason do you have to insult it?  What business is it of Canada's who the US elects? What place is it for me to tell what I think of Trudeau?

For the record what you posted offended me. I've been to four continents, plus New Zealand, and rule one of courtesy is you don't insult someone else's nation. The French would go postal on someone for that, as well they should. A Scotsman once told me when I was over there that he'd rather someone bad-mouth his mother than his country, though he'd kick someone's arse for either one, and that's national (and maternal) pride lacking in many Americans.

Talking American politics, okay, but that was a low blow. It p**sed me off. It crossed a line from giving an opinion to insulting.

You write a lot but really say nothing.
Except your mad. I think we all know this.
That you support this scumbag makes me feel you are special. Like a KAREN.

RC sabotages another thread because he can't deal with people who don't buy MSNBC talking points like he does

I know you have no real response to what I say- So you slam the facts. Sad.
Lester-your losing. As Trump would say.

yeah I'm really famous for not being able to put up an argument

Her comment was not about Trump, it was about Americans.

Are you 'her'?
Why do you hide all the time?

RC does attack posters rather than the posts, true. I've always said RC is a smart man but he insults instead of debates and I don't respect that. Mostly I stay out of politics here but I didn't see Newt's comment as political, it was a shot at US voters, US sensibility, US discernment. Say what a person will about a political leaders, insulting the people of my country merited a reply.

He is  smart: he sees he is losing so he starts swearing and calling people names so the thread will get closed

no matter which side, we are all "bad movie friends",
we should be able to have a civil discussion...

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Thank you for your deep insight into my post! Your so smart! You must be a professor of something!

ER - You know that is not true. I always base my arguments on facts that you choose to ignore. Your lame attempt to discredit me is transparent.

Are you kidding?  You do that routinely.  Newt simply stated a fact.  Meanwhile you drop your little bombs and play dumb about them.  It's that behavior that Americans are fed up with. 

Instead of looking at the facts, I suppose it is easier to call out the messenger.

Should, but can't. Every political topic quickly turns into a garbage thread. I recommend boycotting them.

It was a nice thread about a good women who died. But Zelmo stuck his nasty comments that turned it.
The guy is a troll who poisons every thread he comments on. Unless it's Star Wars.  :lookingup:

Locklocklocklock.

I agree. Lock it. That will make everything better.
Censorship is the foundation of Democracy!

We all need "discernment" as ER implied. 
Venomx makes a good point about us all being Bad movie friends. 
We must agree to disagree with civility. 

^ But standing up for your morals is bad? Should a person bend his or her morality for civility?

Interesting question. Buddy of mine wants to join The Satanic Temple and apparently one of its seven tenets is the right to free expression includes the right to offend. I "think" I agree there. My patron saint Joan Rivers would probably say she'd agree with that, so....she's my barometer.


I do think it's best to be tactful in life though sometimes I get mad, go after people, beat down the desire to challenge others to first blood duels, that sort of thing. I'm actually very nice.  :smile:

I do not believe you have a buddy who want's to join a Satanic Temple. I'm calling bulls**t.
But if it is true- which is as likely as the loch ness monster s**tting on my porch , do tell him I said hi.
And if your patron Saint is Joan Rivers then that means your a plastic phony? Someone who judges people by how they dress?
Think before you type, dear.

Wanna go all-in with a little wager on the existence of this friend, Ron? Or you just want to mouth off without putting up? Think before you type, because you're going to lose whatever you bet me. Dear.

Second thought, it'd be wrong to take something from you when you have so little. You're an impoverished addict in poor health, and while I don't dislike you Ronny, I have often felt sorry for you, and that's why if you look back you'd see more than not I've taken up for you and been nice to you. (I said more often than not, John. ;-) ) Typically you've failed to see when I was backing you, not just now, not the time I was the only person here to say I believed your story about New York, when strangely you attacked me for my support. You're an odd fella, Merchant, tragic, interesting, self-crippling, but you're what you are and you're unique.

Anyway I'll be going home in a few days and won't have the time to kill posting here, so I hope you're alive when and if  I return here, RC, and I hope your heart will handle November.

Also I think you and John would make a good couple.

If you are not rattling off your accomplishments, you are pinpointing your kindnesses.  And you can't resist a final swipe. 



You write that to be annoying; and because you find both of US annoying.  Nonetheless, Ron and I would kill each other.  These days, we just fight and not with civility.  Actually, perhaps you are being obtuse.  I believe evidence should speak for itself and I avoid explanations.  You are, however, not the only one who might take up a cause. 

It's true though, RC can be like a dog that bites you sometimes for no reason.

So, what's your cause going to be, John?

Well thank you for your support!  :twirl:
I'll take Johns' support then yours any day.

Sure. I wish you'd notice I'm on your side most of the time.

Sure you are.
Don't play that card on me. Don't work, man.
Your not even honest when your online- your always 'hidden'.
We all now its you. Your a phony.

Why doubt it? I'm always trying to bolster you, compliment you, I always read your posts first because they're interesting.....train wrecks sometimes, but invariably interesting. (You do realize I only tapdance like this with you when I'm exceedingly bored, right?)

You tapdance like this because your a troll. A well read troll, but a troll never the less.
You may be able to pull the wool on others, but I ain't your mark.

See, you're so suspicious Tsk.

Annnieway, I'm going to go throw some darts before bed and watch my co-workers tie on a few.
Give yourself some credit. Jeez, if I was out to bash on you I could do a better job. Night.

A troll who has been here twelve years? Ron, really, you're meaner to a lot more people than me. Sober up, man, lose the paranoia, and go smell the flowers, look at the sky. Be happy.

And now I really do have to log off.

Good night my dear. Try not to have any night terrors about my sorry drunk ass, Karen!!  :drink:

 

 :bouncegiggle:  You two can be amusing!   :bouncegiggle:

To improve civility! 

Admirable! Lead the way.

To answer your question which was directed at me, no, it is not bad to stand up for your morals.  
Your second question is nonsense; an uncivil person is incapable of morality, a moral person is naturally civil.  

ah, interesting that my response doesn't show. am i banned from posting, rev? i'm good with that, since i know YOU can see this post. it's quite sad really, that you continue to allow trolls to take over. good luck.

You posted within the quote.

Would we make a good couple, John? I think you'd hate the climate here and I'd be scared of the Jersey Devil.

Peace, Barri, when you and I quarrel here it's like Götterdämmerung.

You're in the midwest.  It's just like Jersey.   :teddyr:  We could cozy up on cold nights.

Barri, I think you expect more of REV than actually occurs.  You're paranoid.  Apology in order. 

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I see every one's hunky dory today!  :drink:

I like Barri, and think of her as a friend.  RC, ER too.  Concurrence is scant these days.  We all make mistakes and need to learn the lesson of civility.  Sometimes, we are humbled and must accept such demonstrating humility.  When we refuse to acknowledge our own errors, it is merely egoism. 

chefzombie, you smited me for this?...
how was my post hurtful? Can I not have a dialog with RC? or ask questions?

A civil discussion.......

I just got saying we are all "bad movie friends" and this is my reward?  :bluesad:

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Of course, Ron.  :cheers:

 ^If anyone deserves bad karma- (but my karma thingy is long gone)- it would be me.
I have been a loud mouth in this thread  and am sorry. And lots of other threads too.
 I know sometimes I get stupid.
I'm old and angry and f**ked up.
And drunk a lot too.
I Don't drink around Tiana. She's at work. I'm home getting drunk.
I do all the cooking and cleaning. If I'm not too f**ked up.
I also pay the mortgage and electric. She goes to work every day and deals with folks with Corona every day.

^ You are always cool even when you ain't cool at all.  Me love you long time. 

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Chefzombie is not allowing himself to post here anymore because I hurt his feelings or something in that Political thread that got the axe a few weeks ago.

She works at a liquor store selling Corona beers to people?

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.........That's just bad taste.

yeah, I don't get it... all I was doing was asking questions and talking with RC

RC was very nice to me (as always) and and I was nice to him... (as always)

the funny part is - I'm not left or right... although I like to talk about politics... IF it's civil

BUT I guess it did not fit the narrative of wanting to vote for Biden...??? I dont know PSH

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Chef Zombie is a HER. Not a him.
You really don't know anyone one this board very well, do you? (i'm talking to Zelmo- no one else.)

I like Hallows, ER, Venom, even Lester.
I don't like Zelmo- who is a shmuck.

On a bad movie forum, it’s still appropriate though.  :teddyr:

^ See? A shmuck.

It's not.

What he said. Me and Venom are polar opposites when it comes to politics- but I like him just fine.
I don't like trolls. ( I'm sorry I called you a troll, ER. I was wrong to do so.)
I don't really think I like ANY politicians. Used car salesmen. It's all bulls**t.
(Well, I like kinda Kamala Harris, not so much Joe Biden.)
I'm very sorry if I come off like a mean person.
I'm just a mad person.
(But I'm sure you fine folks already knew that, I reckon.)
I don't think Barrie is a bad person whatsoever. I love Chef Zombie! Like me, I think she's just angry like all of us.

“Schmuck” is a Yiddish insult. I’ve been called worse.  :cheers:

You flatter yourself.

No doubt.  :lookingup:

Finally you posted something that's believable! :cheers:

i thought the 'boo' meant 'smite', sorry for the misunderstanding, Chefzombie

Uh... it does mean "smite".  And she meant it.