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Title: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: RCMerchant on September 27, 2020, 03:03:03 AM
Clint Eastwood was always somehow a 'good' guy.

Even if he was doing bad s**t (think the rape scene in HIGH PLAINS DRIFTER).

Can you list anybody who never played the villain?


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: chainsaw midget on September 27, 2020, 05:45:56 AM
I can't recall Harrison Ford ever being a bad guy.


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: Alex on September 27, 2020, 05:49:28 AM
I can't recall Harrison Ford ever being a bad guy.

He did in What Lies Beneath.


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: Gabriel Knight on September 27, 2020, 08:35:33 AM
Tom Hanks, maybe?


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: Alex on September 27, 2020, 09:06:25 AM
Tom Hanks, maybe?

Road To Perdition and not one I've seen but I am told he played a bad guy in The Circle.


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: Rev. Powell on September 27, 2020, 09:43:25 AM
Jackie Chan, Bruce Lee.


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: Alex on September 27, 2020, 09:48:10 AM
Jackie Chan as one of Han's guards in Enter The Dragon and Lee was a hired thug in Marlowe.


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: RCMerchant on September 27, 2020, 09:51:06 AM
Charleton Heston?


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: Alex on September 27, 2020, 09:57:36 AM
Cardinal Richelieu in The Three Muskateers and its sequel The Four Muskateers.


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: Alex on September 27, 2020, 09:58:40 AM
So far, I've only found one big-name actor who hasn't played a villain (although one role is arguable), but he annoys me so I don't want to mention him.

EDIT: Make that two actors, and they both annoy me.


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: RCMerchant on September 27, 2020, 10:21:04 AM
 ^ Please tell!



Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: Alex on September 27, 2020, 10:25:39 AM
I've PM'd you the names.


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: RCMerchant on September 27, 2020, 10:31:53 AM
I agree on the first- but not the second.
I DO agree I can't stand either actor.


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: zelmo73 on September 27, 2020, 03:00:07 PM
Jackie Chan, Bruce Lee.

Jackie Chan played a leader of a street gang that gangraped a young lady in Young Dragon (1973). Bruce Lee, technically was a murderous psychopath bent on revenge in Fists Of Fury (1972). Though I guess the guys he killed were technically in self-defense, it just seemed a bit overkill in that movie; like say if the younglings had attacked Anakin Skywalker before he slaughtered the Jedi children with his lightsaber in Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith (2005) or something.


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: zombie no.one on September 27, 2020, 03:15:34 PM
Chris Mitchum

Ray Lovelock

2 semi-educated guesses... happy to be proved wrong


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: VenomX73 on September 27, 2020, 03:30:41 PM
Jackie Chan as one of Han's guards in Enter The Dragon and Lee was a hired thug in Marlowe.

yep  :thumbup:

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Bruce Lee and Jackie Chan


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: VenomX73 on September 27, 2020, 03:37:24 PM
How about Elvis Presley, he was an actor too

I don't think he ever played a villain? No?...

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Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: Alex on September 27, 2020, 03:46:24 PM
The closest I can think of there is Jailhouse Rock where he is doing time for manslaughter.


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: VenomX73 on September 27, 2020, 03:52:24 PM
oh yeah lol! whoops...


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: VenomX73 on September 27, 2020, 03:56:53 PM
Clint Eastwood was always somehow a 'good' guy.

Even if he was doing bad s**t (think the rape scene in HIGH PLAINS DRIFTER).

Can you list anybody who never played the villain?

I think Clint Eastwood played bad guy in escape from alcatraz 1979
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Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: Alex on September 27, 2020, 04:40:39 PM
He had murdered women and children in Unforgiven, although no one is really a hero in that movie.


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: VenomX73 on September 27, 2020, 04:57:01 PM
I think I may have found two... ??

John Candy and Bill Pullman

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Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: RCMerchant on September 27, 2020, 05:27:34 PM
Clint Eastwood was always somehow a 'good' guy.

Even if he was doing bad s**t (think the rape scene in HIGH PLAINS DRIFTER).

Can you list anybody who never played the villain?

I think Clint Eastwood played bad guy in escape from alcatraz 1979
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Nope. He was a good guy in that movie.


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: RCMerchant on September 27, 2020, 05:29:31 PM
I think I may have found two... ??

John Candy and Bill Pullman

(https://img.cinemablend.com/filter:scale/quill/1/c/c/a/4/a/1cca4a327f26ef977856195a51c27c0c351e7f7b.jpg?mw=600)


John Candy DID play a scumbag in JFK (1991)


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: Alex on September 28, 2020, 12:26:57 AM
Pullman was a bad guy in Ruthless People.


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: zelmo73 on September 28, 2020, 02:35:07 AM
I think I may have found two... ??

John Candy and Bill Pullman

(https://img.cinemablend.com/filter:scale/quill/1/c/c/a/4/a/1cca4a327f26ef977856195a51c27c0c351e7f7b.jpg?mw=600)



Not really a villain, but John Candy was one of the antagonist cops in The Blues Brothers (1980).

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Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: zombie no.one on September 28, 2020, 03:49:21 AM
have any of the James Bond actors played bad guys in their non-Bond movies?

can't think of any examples? there probably are though...

to me Daniel Craig looks like a bad guy character anyway


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: Alex on September 28, 2020, 06:42:34 AM
Sean Connery was a bad guy in The Avengers.
Timothy Dalton was the big bad in The Rocketeer & Hot Fuzz.
Daniel Craig was the bad guy in The Golden Compass, although you need to read the book to see why.
Pierce Brosnan was a hitman in The Long Good Friday.
Not sure on Roger Moore, I’d need to google that one, and as I far as I know Lazenby only did one movie.


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: RCMerchant on September 28, 2020, 08:54:39 AM
George Lazenby plays a Nazi in HELL HUNTERS (1987)


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: Gabriel Knight on September 28, 2020, 12:11:47 PM
What about Sylvester Stallone?


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: zombie no.one on September 28, 2020, 12:13:32 PM
haha, so... quite a lot of 'bond villains' then  :smile:


Timothy Dalton was the big bad in The Rocketeer & Hot Fuzz.

wow can't believe I forgot that. only one of my favourite bad guy performances ever

just remembered Lazenby is a bad guy in DEATH DIMENSION.


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: Alex on September 28, 2020, 12:30:24 PM
What about Sylvester Stallone?

Death Race 2000 & Oscar.

If you are Russian, he might be one of the biggest villains on the planet though.


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: Dr. Whom on September 28, 2020, 12:34:38 PM
Doris Day?


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: VenomX73 on September 28, 2020, 12:41:58 PM
Ok... I think I finally got 1 - I was gonna say Michael Landon

but how about ... Tim Allen ???

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-WCsdPTijiZA/UZsAhnGRQII/AAAAAAAATFU/VYKWJJ2EGRY/s320/Galaxy+Quest+Tim+Allen.gif)





Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: RCMerchant on September 28, 2020, 12:54:06 PM
What about Sylvester Stallone?

Death Race 2000 & Oscar.

If you are Russian, he might be one of the biggest villains on the planet though.

I don't think he was a good guy in FIRST BLOOD. He was a psycho. Of course the other movies turned him into the Great American Hero.


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: RCMerchant on September 28, 2020, 12:58:59 PM
Ok... I think I finally got 1 - I was gonna say Michael Landon






Teenage werewolf. I mean, he killed people. That's pretty bad.

(https://i.imgur.com/OvFv5xx.png) (https://lunapic.com)


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: VenomX73 on September 28, 2020, 01:24:18 PM
yea I seen that, that's why I pulled that card, I was like oh crap lol  :thumbup:


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: Alex on September 28, 2020, 01:35:32 PM
I don't think he (Tim Allen) has played a bad guy on screen, although he does have a somewhat chequered history in real life having done time for drug dealing (I believe his sentence was reduced for snitching on other people if memory serves), and was caught drink driving. I've not watched a lot of his films (Galaxy Quest, Wild Hogs and the Toy Story ones I think cover what I've seen of him).


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: RCMerchant on September 28, 2020, 01:48:29 PM
^ Tim Allen is from Kalamazoo, Michigan.
Where I do all my Xmas shopping!


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: Ted C on September 28, 2020, 08:10:58 PM
What about Sylvester Stallone?

Death Race 2000 & Oscar.

If you are Russian, he might be one of the biggest villains on the planet though.

I don't think he was a good guy in FIRST BLOOD. He was a psycho. Of course the other movies turned him into the Great American Hero.

Rambo was definitely not the bad guy in First Blood. He had mental health problems, but it can be easily said that he was provoked at every turn.


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: Trevor on September 29, 2020, 01:18:04 AM
What about Sylvester Stallone?

Death Race 2000 & Oscar.

If you are Russian, he might be one of the biggest villains on the planet though.

I don't think he was a good guy in FIRST BLOOD. He was a psycho. Of course the other movies turned him into the Great American Hero.

Rambo was definitely not the bad guy in First Blood. He had mental health problems, but it can be easily said that he was provoked at every turn.

Agreed: it was the sheriff who was actually the bad guy: all Rambo wanted was something to eat. In the book, this is made clear although in the book, Rambo kills a lot of people.


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: zelmo73 on September 29, 2020, 02:24:50 AM
What about Sylvester Stallone?

Death Race 2000 & Oscar.

If you are Russian, he might be one of the biggest villains on the planet though.

I don't think he was a good guy in FIRST BLOOD. He was a psycho. Of course the other movies turned him into the Great American Hero.

Rambo was definitely not the bad guy in First Blood. He had mental health problems, but it can be easily said that he was provoked at every turn.

Rambo also didn’t kill anyone in that movie.


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: VenomX73 on September 29, 2020, 04:41:00 PM
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Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: Trevor on September 30, 2020, 04:15:36 AM
I was going to suggest Sir Michael Caine and Sir Sean Connery but they've both played villains.


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: Gabriel Knight on September 30, 2020, 09:41:20 AM
I was going to suggest Sir Michael Caine and Sir Sean Connery but they've both played villains.

Michael Caine in the ridiculously awful NOW YOU SEE ME and its sequel. Not even his greatness could save that stinker.

But, since I mention that one, what about Morgan Freeman? I'm sure he did played some bad guy but I can't recall any right now. Perhaps DREAMCATCHER? Although that movie is so terrible that basically everyone is a bad guy just for showing up and making it.


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: Alex on September 30, 2020, 10:01:11 AM
He (Morgan Freeman) was indeed a bad guy in Dreamcatchers and also in Hard Rain.


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: Trevor on September 30, 2020, 01:27:08 PM
I was going to suggest Sir Michael Caine and Sir Sean Connery but they've both played villains.

Michael Caine in the ridiculously awful NOW YOU SEE ME and its sequel. Not even his greatness could save that stinker.

But, since I mention that one, what about Morgan Freeman? I'm sure he did played some bad guy but I can't recall any right now. Perhaps DREAMCATCHER? Although that movie is so terrible that basically everyone is a bad guy just for showing up and making it.

He was the bad guy in Dreamcatcher.


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: Alex on September 30, 2020, 02:21:21 PM
Despite his heel status in wrestling, I don't think I've seen 'Rowdy' Ronnie Piper play a bad guy on screen.


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: RCMerchant on September 30, 2020, 02:58:10 PM
Despite his heel status in wrestling, I don't think I've seen 'Rowdy' Ronnie Piper play a bad guy on screen.

I didn't know he made more then one movie!
I looked on his IMDB page- he's been in all sorsta sh!t!  :cheers:


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: Alex on September 30, 2020, 02:59:35 PM
Yeah. I can recommend 'Hell Comes To Frogtown' as his second-best movie.


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: RCMerchant on September 30, 2020, 03:03:27 PM
Yeah. I can recommend 'Hell Comes To Frogtown' as his second-best movie.
Yeah- I forgot about that one! Made in Michigan, too!  :cheers:

I have Donald Jackson's first movie-the DEVIL MASTER (1976) on a clambox vhs! I treasure it!



Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: zelmo73 on October 01, 2020, 03:10:59 AM
He (Morgan Freeman) was indeed a bad guy in Dreamcatchers and also in Hard Rain.

Morgan Freeman also ended up being the bad guy in Now You See Me (2013) and Wanted (2008).


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: Allhallowsday on October 01, 2020, 09:14:04 AM
SHIRLEY TEMPLE


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: zelmo73 on October 11, 2020, 09:29:45 PM
SHIRLEY TEMPLE

Although not quite a villain, prostitution is a profession of ill repute. Shirley Temple played a prostitute in her first Hollywood role:

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Inside The Baby Burlesks

The eight short films saw toddler stars dressed in hyper-sexualized adult clothing. Beneath that, they donned oversized diapers clasped with a safety pin. The costuming alone in these films are enough to raise eyebrows. When viewed through the lens of a modern movie-goer, it seems nearly impossible to glean where the comedy in these shorts actually is.

However, in an era where audiences were still easily pleased by the novelty of film, the Baby Burlesks likely seemed charming.

In the short “Polly Tix in Washington,” a four-year-old Shirley Temple is seen playing what is insinuated as a prostitute. Sent to “entertain” a senator (played by a fellow child-actor), Temple can be seen wearing a small bra while filing her nails in a manner meant to mimic the actions of a self-assured and perhaps world-weary mistress lounging in her boudoir.

Temple later enters the office of the senator draped in pearls, sashaying into the room with her hands resting firmly on her hips in a disturbing display of mock adult sexuality.

Temple then wraps her arms around the senator’s neck and plants two clumsy kisses on his lips. Of course, the sexual implications are lost on the children who appear in the film, children who were simply following the direction of the adults controlling them, namely, the film’s director and he who discovered Shirley Temple, Charles Lamont.

Lamont also directed another one of the total eight burlesques, entitled “War Babies,” which served as a spoof of the World War I era silent film, What Price Glory?.

The short once again featured Shirley Temple in the role of a prostitute, this time vying for the affections of army men, played of course by 3 – 5-year-old boys. Within the first minute of the film, Temple is seen in a purposely loose-fitting top that slips and falls down revealing her shoulders as she performs a caricature of a seductive dance.

She later trades kisses for lollipops, is repeatedly called “baby,” refers to an army man as mon cher Capitan, and even refers to herself as “expensive.”

The humor of the piece is once again intended to be derived from watching toddler-aged children unknowingly copy the behavior of fully grown adults, but it was perhaps also all to the detriment of the children themselves whose innocence was taken advantage of.

Unfortunately, the overtly sexual overtones that Shirley Temple and her fellow child-stars were forced to mimic over the course of Baby Burlesk wasn’t even the worst of it. Without regulations regarding on-set safety for actors, directors were able to employ various means of cruel and unusual punishment to maintain order on set during filming.

https://allthatsinteresting.com/shirley-temple-baby-burlesks (https://allthatsinteresting.com/shirley-temple-baby-burlesks)






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Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: zombie no.one on October 12, 2020, 01:26:21 PM
hard to imagine Leslie Nielsen as a bad guy unless you've seen DAY OF THE ANIMALS where he plays possibly the most unpleasant douchebag I've ever witnessed in any movie!

not sure if he plays a bad guy anywhere else?


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: Alex on October 12, 2020, 01:27:24 PM
Creepshow, where he murders his (ex?) wife and Ted Danson.


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: zombie no.one on October 12, 2020, 01:36:52 PM
ah yeah of course...

that segment is really weird.


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: Jim H on October 14, 2020, 11:19:24 AM
Jackie Chan, Bruce Lee.

Jackie Chan played a leader of a street gang that gangraped a young lady in Young Dragon (1973). Bruce Lee, technically was a murderous psychopath bent on revenge in Fists Of Fury (1972). Though I guess the guys he killed were technically in self-defense, it just seemed a bit overkill in that movie; like say if the younglings had attacked Anakin Skywalker before he slaughtered the Jedi children with his lightsaber in Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith (2005) or something.

Chan is also more-or-less the main villain in the Killer Meteors. 

My own contribution - I don't think John Wayne ever played a villain in his hundreds of roles did he?  Maybe when he was a stuntman/extra, but never as the lead.


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: RCMerchant on October 14, 2020, 12:04:27 PM
 ^ John Wayne as Genghis Khan in the CONQUEROR (1956).


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: Jim H on October 14, 2020, 01:27:32 PM
^ John Wayne as Genghis Khan in the CONQUEROR (1956).

While Khan was clearly a monster in real life, isn't he essentially the hero of the film?  I have to admit, never seen the whole thing. 

I did think of another one though - I've seen almost all of Stephen Chows 60ish films, and I don't believe he ever played a villain.


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: RCMerchant on October 14, 2020, 01:35:37 PM
^ John Wayne as Genghis Khan in the CONQUEROR (1956).

While Khan was clearly a monster in real life, isn't he essentially the hero of the film?  I have to admit, never seen the whole thing. 

I have't either. I just assumed, I mean it's Genghis Khan!  :question:


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: Jim H on October 14, 2020, 09:29:51 PM
^ John Wayne as Genghis Khan in the CONQUEROR (1956).

While Khan was clearly a monster in real life, isn't he essentially the hero of the film?  I have to admit, never seen the whole thing.  

I have't either. I just assumed, I mean it's Genghis Khan!  :question:

Just seems like if you're going to get John Wayne to play Genghis Khan, you probably don't care too much about historical accuracy.   :twirl:   :drink:


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: Ted C on October 17, 2020, 11:23:08 AM
My own contribution - I don't think John Wayne ever played a villain in his hundreds of roles did he?  Maybe when he was a stuntman/extra, but never as the lead.

Doesn't he kind of go "racist psychopath" in The Searchers?


Title: Re: Actors and Actresses who never played a villian.
Post by: Jim H on October 20, 2020, 11:39:05 AM
My own contribution - I don't think John Wayne ever played a villain in his hundreds of roles did he?  Maybe when he was a stuntman/extra, but never as the lead.

Doesn't he kind of go "racist psychopath" in The Searchers?

Yeah...  In the end though, he does the right thing and doesn't actually murder anyone (despite attempting to at one point) to my recollection.  Haven't seen it in ages though.