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Title: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: kornula on December 15, 2020, 09:04:02 PM The debate still rages on. Even though the story is set on friggin Christmas eve....at an office CHRISTMAS PARTY...
And, the McClains are prohibited from re uniting by Hans Gruber for their Christmas reconciliation (and so the McClain family can be together for Christmas) some people say it is not a Christmas movie. Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: LilCerberus on December 15, 2020, 10:12:11 PM Not as much as Hardware is.........
Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: zombie no.one on December 16, 2020, 02:42:17 AM leaning towards no. I don't remember too much discussion about the birth of Jesus in this one... might have to rewatch
Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: claws on December 16, 2020, 02:59:39 AM Die Hard is lacking christmas spirit so I voted no. Movies like Black Christmas has the spirit and the horror making it a perfect (anti) christmas movie in my opinion.
Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: RCMerchant on December 16, 2020, 05:00:48 AM I voted " No, you're wrong".
Still not sure if that means you're wrong or you are calling people who vote 'no' wrong. I would think the second one, being as the first 3 choices are 'yes'. :lookingup: I't a mindless action movie that takes place on Christmas. "yippie kai-yeah, motherf**ker" is not how I greet people during this time of year. CURSE OF THE WEREWOLF (1961) also has Oliver Reed's character born on Christmas and being cursed because of it. Is it a holiday movie? But whatever rocks your boat, man. Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: chainsaw midget on December 16, 2020, 09:38:24 AM Die Hard is not.
But this also gives me a good opportunity to talk about a Christmas movie that nobody ever labels as a Christmas movie. (https://i.imgur.com/N9zoBtP.gif) Gremlins. The plot of the movie kicks off because a guy is looking for the perfect Christmas present for his son. There's Christmas trees, snow plows, carolers, and a rather memorable talk about the time a character's dad played Santa, but nobody ever mentions it when they talk about Christmas movies and I think that's a shame. Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: RCMerchant on December 16, 2020, 10:49:45 AM ^And it's got Dick Miller! :thumbup:
Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: pacman000 on December 16, 2020, 11:31:35 AM Oh, yeah! Gremlins! We've watched it around Christmas before, & I would consider it a Christmas movie.
Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: Allhallowsday on December 16, 2020, 01:01:25 PM I saw GREMLINS (1984) on a hot summer July night at the drive-in when it was new. We all loved it! When the film opened with DARLENE LOVE "Christmas (Baby Please Come Home)" every person started cheering, honking car horns, joyous mayhem. Now THAT is a Christmas movie...
"You teach them to watch television!" DIEHARD fits the bill, but is no fun to watch at Christmas. Your vote choices are... unflattering to any of us. :bluesad: Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: RCMerchant on December 16, 2020, 01:23:06 PM I saw GREMLINS (1984) on a hot summer July night at the drive-in when it was new. We all loved it! When the film opened with DARLENE LOVE "Christmas (Baby Please Come Home)" every person started cheering, honking car horns, joyous mayhem. Now THAT is a Christmas movie... "You teach them to watch television!" When you demand we vote 'yes' 3 times-yeah.... :lookingup:DIEHARD fits the bill, but is no fun to watch at Christmas. Your vote choices are... unflattering to any of us. :bluesad: Sounds like someone I heard of....usta be President... :tongueout: I hope your not gonna dispute this for a month... Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: LilCerberus on December 16, 2020, 04:06:46 PM Never really sat through it, but isn't Reindeer Games a Christmas movie?
Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: BoyScoutKevin on December 16, 2020, 04:40:59 PM Never really sat through it, but isn't Reindeer Games a Christmas movie? If you look at the plot keywords on imdb.com--184 of them--christmas is not one of them. So, the answer most likely would be no. On the other hand, Die Hard, which has 397 plot keywords at imdb.com does have Christmas as one of them with also said Christmas Eve and Christmas party, so a case can be made that at least some people, at imdb.com, think it may be a Christmas movie, as I have not seen neither film, I'll hold my opinions in variance till I see a film. Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: Alex on December 16, 2020, 05:10:21 PM If you want it to be a Christmas movie, then it is for you. If you don't then it isn't. Screw what anyone else thinks.
Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: LilCerberus on December 16, 2020, 05:12:44 PM If you want it to be a Christmas movie, then it is for you. If you don't then it isn't. Screw what anyone else thinks. Right! Hardware is a Christmas Movie! Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: RCMerchant on December 16, 2020, 06:36:37 PM I always thought HARDWARE was a Christmas movie!
Can't argue with that! (https://i.imgur.com/JGEtDVG.jpg) (https://lunapic.com) And a Motorhead soundtrack! Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: HappyGilmore on December 16, 2020, 06:45:18 PM Yippe Kay Yay it is. :cheers:
Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: RCMerchant on December 16, 2020, 06:52:38 PM Now here's a Christmas movie!
SANTA AND THE ICE CREAM BUNNY (1972) http://youtu.be/SPB8alPJQK0 (http://youtu.be/SPB8alPJQK0) That is heart reandering. :bluesad: Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: LilCerberus on December 16, 2020, 10:44:41 PM The Legend Of Hell House takes place in December, with the climax occurring on December 25...
Yet, it's clearly NOT a Christmas movie; It never mentions the holiday, & the novel only mentions it at the very beginning & very end, and I think I finally understand why......... It's been a long, & contentious year, with the virus, the riots, the elections, how some leaders are handling these three problems... And in my town, it seems like it's almost constantly raining this year. Hell House is something of a study of people being isolated, they have each other, yet they are alone, in a beautiful mansion, but with no windows, with lot's of space, but not enough between each other, and the character's professional opinions & objectives rising towards extremely personal differences............. It certainly doesn't FEEL like that time of year. Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: kornula on December 17, 2020, 01:26:32 PM I have yet to still sit down and watch SANTA CLAUS VS. THE ICE CREAM BUNNY.
I am going to watch WINSLOW THE CHRISTMAS BEAR all the way through this year...and THE CHRISTMAS SHOES. Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: Rev. Powell on December 17, 2020, 02:30:13 PM Is FEMALE TROUBLE a Christmas movie?
http://youtu.be/uDie8goaBDU (http://youtu.be/uDie8goaBDU) (slightly NSFW) Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: kornula on December 17, 2020, 04:12:13 PM Is FEMALE TROUBLE a Christmas movie? [url]http://youtu.be/uDie8goaBDU[/url] ([url]http://youtu.be/uDie8goaBDU[/url]) (slightly NSFW) I've always counted it as one... "Where are my f**king Cha Cha© heels!?" scene clinches it for me. Mind you, that's the only reference to Christmas in the movie..but it does make a lasting impression on the movie. Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: Allhallowsday on December 17, 2020, 05:32:10 PM "Not on Christmas...! Not on Christmas...!"
Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: claws on December 18, 2020, 01:11:57 AM When I think of Christmas movies I think of those Hallmark movies. Watch one of those and then watch Die Hard
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/dc/10/30/dc10304dfa5e395f6f51c6a7b490e3d5.png) (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/VOMpkU_FzcNU8mNBoAm6jcKiIXGoKVvJiGIH5ek5AWmt-rbeO7IB--pxtBB1KJ6DW32GpRz3OFFFT836zcTCQaJikqzQBXdj0bSUwtuZssKUSYoWVx4yk9laRc67) :teddyr: Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: Alex on December 18, 2020, 03:35:20 AM From the director of Die Hard.
Quote Die Hard director John McTiernan has confirmed it is in fact a Christmas film. The filmmaker, weighing in on the annual debate about the film’s festive qualities during the holiday season, addressed the “controversy” in a 12-minute video posted by the American Film Institute. “We hadn’t intended it to be a Christmas movie, but the joy that came from it is what turned it into a Christmas movie,” McTiernan says several minutes into the video. He then expands on Die Hard‘s themes in connection to American politics, explaining: “There are genuinely evil people out there.” “My hope at Christmas this year is that you will all remember that authoritarians are low-status, angry men who have gone to rich people and said, ‘If you give us power, we will make sure nobody takes your stuff.’” He continued: “And their obsessions with guns and boots and uniforms and squad cars and all that stuff. And all those things you amass with power meant to scare us, meant to shut us up so we don’t kick them to the side of the road and decent people of the world get on with building a future.” Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: zelmo73 on December 18, 2020, 05:32:18 AM leaning towards no. I don't remember too much discussion about the birth of Jesus in this one... might have to rewatch The name "Jesus Christ" is uttered a few times throughout the movie. I think that counts as reciting the Lord's good name during the Christmas season. Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: claws on December 18, 2020, 07:49:54 AM From the director of Die Hard. Quote Die Hard director John McTiernan has confirmed it is in fact a Christmas film. The filmmaker, weighing in on the annual debate about the film’s festive qualities during the holiday season, addressed the “controversy” in a 12-minute video posted by the American Film Institute. “We hadn’t intended it to be a Christmas movie, but the joy that came from it is what turned it into a Christmas movie,” McTiernan says several minutes into the video. He then expands on Die Hard‘s themes in connection to American politics, explaining: “There are genuinely evil people out there.” “My hope at Christmas this year is that you will all remember that authoritarians are low-status, angry men who have gone to rich people and said, ‘If you give us power, we will make sure nobody takes your stuff.’” He continued: “And their obsessions with guns and boots and uniforms and squad cars and all that stuff. And all those things you amass with power meant to scare us, meant to shut us up so we don’t kick them to the side of the road and decent people of the world get on with building a future.” Still doesn't feel like a christmas movie to me. McTierman even admits he didn't intended to be a christmas movie and it shows in my opinion. Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: pacman000 on December 18, 2020, 08:29:57 AM From the director of Die Hard. But isn’t the movie about a group trying to steal from a rich company under the guise of a political movement, & doesn’t Bruce Willis kinda beat them up for that? :question:Quote Die Hard director John McTiernan has confirmed it is in fact a Christmas film. The filmmaker, weighing in on the annual debate about the film’s festive qualities during the holiday season, addressed the “controversy” in a 12-minute video posted by the American Film Institute. “We hadn’t intended it to be a Christmas movie, but the joy that came from it is what turned it into a Christmas movie,” McTiernan says several minutes into the video. He then expands on Die Hard‘s themes in connection to American politics, explaining: “There are genuinely evil people out there.” “My hope at Christmas this year is that you will all remember that authoritarians are low-status, angry men who have gone to rich people and said, ‘If you give us power, we will make sure nobody takes your stuff.’” He continued: “And their obsessions with guns and boots and uniforms and squad cars and all that stuff. And all those things you amass with power meant to scare us, meant to shut us up so we don’t kick them to the side of the road and decent people of the world get on with building a future.” Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: kornula on December 18, 2020, 03:19:26 PM From the director of Die Hard. Quote Still doesn't feel like a christmas movie to me. McTierman even admits he didn't intended to be a christmas movie and it shows in my opinion. The movie takes place on December 24th at a CHRISTMAS PARTY. The McClains want to be re united for the holiday... that's the core of the plot.You cannot find better Christmas driven stories than that. Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: beat_truck on December 18, 2020, 03:53:11 PM Nope. Taking place at Christmas time doesn't automatically make it a Christmas movie. :wink:
Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: kornula on December 18, 2020, 04:09:07 PM Nope. Taking place at Christmas time doesn't automatically make it a Christmas movie. :wink: and not wanting to reunite the family for Christmas does not make it a Christmas movie...(raise middle finger) Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: beat_truck on December 18, 2020, 04:26:49 PM (raise middle finger) Right back at ya, bud. :lookingup:Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: Allhallowsday on December 18, 2020, 05:54:28 PM Nope. Taking place at Christmas time doesn't automatically make it a Christmas movie. :wink: and not wanting to reunite the family for Christmas does not make it a Christmas movie...(raise middle finger) What the hell? beat_truck simply voiced an opinion! Didn't you invite us all to do such? :lookingup: Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: kornula on December 18, 2020, 06:03:31 PM Nope. Taking place at Christmas time doesn't automatically make it a Christmas movie. :wink: and not wanting to reunite the family for Christmas does not make it a Christmas movie...(raise middle finger) What the hell? beat_truck simply voiced an opinion! Didn't you invite us all to do such? :lookingup: Relax, cupcake.. it was also a joke. Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: Allhallowsday on December 18, 2020, 10:50:09 PM Nope. Taking place at Christmas time doesn't automatically make it a Christmas movie. :wink: and not wanting to reunite the family for Christmas does not make it a Christmas movie...(raise middle finger)"Also" a joke? You fool no one. Rude is rude. And don't call me "cupcake". Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: beat_truck on December 18, 2020, 11:36:11 PM I sure as hell didn't take is as a joke. That was just being nasty, and it was uncalled for.
Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: zombie no.one on December 19, 2020, 04:25:02 AM unnecessary attitude made the baby jesus cry...
Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: pacman000 on December 19, 2020, 12:25:51 PM The movie's set at Christmas, but I don't remember enough Christmasy mise-en-scčne to affect the film's feel. So, if I were to vote, based on what I remember of the movie, I'd vote no.
Seeing that this is a contentious subject, & since I've not seen the movie for a long time, I've decided to refrain from voting for the time being. Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: Allhallowsday on December 19, 2020, 12:52:26 PM The movie's set at Christmas, but I don't remember enough Christmasy mise-en-scčne to affect the film's feel. So, if I were to vote, based on what I remember of the movie, I'd vote no. Seeing that this is a contentious subject, & since I've not seen the movie for a long time, I've decided to refrain from voting for the time being. Sounds like a plan. Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: zelmo73 on December 19, 2020, 02:03:34 PM unnecessary attitude made the baby jesus cry... Adult Jesus should have learned that from when He was a kid. His unnecessary attitude allowed Him to break the law and it got Him killed. I wonder if He was a juvee as a teenager? You know, running around the countryside turning innocent people’s well water into wine, raising dead relatives just to scare the bejesus out of their families, etc. I mean, that rebellious attitude toward authority figures had to come from somewhere. :smile: Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: El Misfit on December 19, 2020, 08:59:12 PM Die Hard is a Christmas movie. Rather keep this topic going without it devolving even more than it has already done.
Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: claws on December 19, 2020, 09:10:44 PM People seem split on this one. I've seen countless threads like this over the years on message boards. Which tells me that yeah, people seem split on this one.
Other classic mind boggling questions: Are Jaws and The Silence of the Lambs horror movies? Is Alien 3 the best Alien sequel? Is Exorcist II better than its reputation? Is Psycho the first slasher movie? Is Friday the 13th part 2 better than the first one? Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: RCMerchant on December 19, 2020, 09:48:04 PM I agree! Die Hard! Bruce Willis and ultra violence!!
Feels a lot like Christmas to me! :twirl: Long ago, and, oh, so far away baby I fell in love with you,baby. Baby,baby, oh baby- I love you, Kornula. I really do. (sing to the tune SUPERSTAR) (https://i.imgur.com/oK6BrpE.gif) (https://lunapic.com) Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: Allhallowsday on December 19, 2020, 10:47:16 PM People seem split on this one. I've seen countless threads like this over the years on message boards. Which tells me that yeah, people seem split on this one... I don't fit either side of your split. Sure, it's a Christmas movie. Doesn't mean I want to watch it at Christmas. Doesn't LETHAL WEAPON open with a Christmas suicide...? Whether it does or not, I don't wanna look at that one on Christmas either. Last night, TCM had on BLACK CHRISTMAS (1974) which is "Christmasy" but also one I don't want for Christmas. Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: RCMerchant on December 19, 2020, 10:49:52 PM I always just found it a boring run of the mill action movie.
Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: RCMerchant on December 19, 2020, 10:55:26 PM I'TS A WONDERFUL LIFE is a Christmas movie.
http://youtu.be/lxNXtjGY_Us (http://youtu.be/lxNXtjGY_Us) It's stupid and cheezy as all f**k. I have no clue why I like it. Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: Allhallowsday on December 19, 2020, 10:57:08 PM I always just found it a boring run of the mill action movie. But it does have ALAN RICKMAN... (https://i.imgur.com/zgGXAiV.gif) Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: RCMerchant on December 19, 2020, 11:14:04 PM I always just found it a boring run of the mill action movie. But it does have ALAN RICKMAN... (https://i.imgur.com/zgGXAiV.gif) I reckon I'm prejudice. I hate all the DIE HARD movies. Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: zombie no.one on December 20, 2020, 01:26:32 AM Other classic mind boggling questions: Are Jaws and The Silence of the Lambs horror movies? Is Alien 3 the best Alien sequel? Is Exorcist II better than its reputation? Is Psycho the first slasher movie? Is Friday the 13th part 2 better than the first one? http://youtu.be/odyMEGpeWm8 (http://youtu.be/odyMEGpeWm8) Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: beat_truck on December 20, 2020, 02:39:41 AM I like Die Hard, and even consider it a classic. I imagine millions of other people do too. The biggest problem is that I have already seen it too many times because it is on TV constantly. Die Hard 2 was OK, not great though. I haven't bothered to watch any of the rest.
Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: Alex on December 21, 2020, 04:48:55 PM Die Hard has been named as the U.K.s second favourite Christmas movie, behind It's A Wonderful Life.
Title: Re: Is DIE HARD a Christmas movie? Post by: ralfy on December 24, 2020, 08:11:07 AM I'm watching It's a Wonderful Life right now. Looks more like an inspirational story about life.
In which case, if that's a Christmas movie, then so's Die Hard. |