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Title: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Trevor on March 06, 2022, 05:19:36 AM
I have never been a fan of The Sopranos and House.

The late great James Gandolfini was a brilliant actor and Hugh Laurie is a brilliant actor too but both of them played unlikable characters in series that were a little too edgy for me: I remember being glad when House was shot by an ex-patient of his, Elias Koteas, no less.  :teddyr:


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: indianasmith on March 06, 2022, 08:20:30 AM
I just never thought SEINFELD was that funny.  FRIENDS either.


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Newt on March 06, 2022, 08:27:31 AM
Never watched Seinfeld or Friends or the Sopranos.  Nothing I saw in clips ever appealed to me at all.

Currently it is 'reality' TV.  No thanks.

I'm sure the list is much longer.  Hard to recall things that in themselves do not register.

On the other side: we have been fans of too many shows that got cancelled 'early', often after a partial season.  Mostly SF or fantasy/horror.   :bluesad:

I guess that says we are not part of the crowd.  Oh well!


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Sitting Duck on March 06, 2022, 09:03:27 AM
I think Colin Baker is much better as Doctor Who than the fandom gives him credit. It's just that a couple of ill-advised creative choices in "The Twin Dilemma" (which is nowhere near as bad as its reputation would have you believe) had him give a bad first impression. And as the cliche phrase goes, you don't get a second chance with a first impression.


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Trevor on March 06, 2022, 09:32:14 AM
I just never thought SEINFELD was that funny.  FRIENDS either.

Agreed: I have only seen a couple of episodes of Seinfeld and only one of Friends.


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Trevor on March 06, 2022, 09:53:03 AM
Never watched Seinfeld or Friends or the Sopranos.  Nothing I saw in clips ever appealed to me at all.

Currently it is 'reality' TV.  No thanks.

I'm sure the list is much longer.  Hard to recall things that in themselves do not register.

On the other side: we have been fans of too many shows that got cancelled 'early', often after a partial season.  Mostly SF or fantasy/horror.   :bluesad:

I guess that says we are not part of the crowd.  Oh well!

Agreed: two sci-fi TV series I have seen in the last year - namely Star Trek Picard and Star Trek Discovery - didn't appeal to me at all. There is one Youtuber - The Critical Drinker - who refers to the Michael Burnham character as "Diverse Female Space Jesus"  :buggedout:


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: indianasmith on March 06, 2022, 10:10:28 AM
I wasn't crazy about DISCOVERY, but I loved the first season of ST: PICARD.  Watched the first episode of Season 2 last night and was very impressed!


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: zombie no.one on March 06, 2022, 10:30:32 AM
BREAKING BAD
THE WIRE
SOPRANOS
GAME OF THRONES
WESTWORLD
WALKING DEAD


 ^^ barely lasted one episode of the above series. big fat no.


I don't like BATTLESTAR GALACTICA, but I love GALACTICA 1980


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: JuanSnz on March 06, 2022, 11:17:39 AM
There are a lot of TV Series with a huge fandom, that don't make me want to sit down and watch, besides I watched some episodes*

But if I have to choose one of the TV series that I really dislike, it is Two and a Half Men. I never could watched more than few minutes of an episode, I don't like any of the characters, but probably I dislike more the actual actors/actresses than the characters.
I think mostly of the characters on the sitcoms produced by Chuck Lorre are just a bunch of people with an inversely proportional rate of the more money the actors/actress get paid, the less IQ your character must have. Except Sheldon Cooper.


*
The Walking Dead (only 3 episodes)
Games of Thrones (the first 3 seasons, and the first one of the 4th season)
House M.D (few episodes of the first season)
Breaking Bad (only the first episode)


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Newt on March 06, 2022, 12:17:04 PM
I wasn't crazy about DISCOVERY, but I loved the first season of ST: PICARD.  Watched the first episode of Season 2 last night and was very impressed!

Same here.  Watched the first ep of Disco and could not watch any more of it. It's not 'Trek'.   Picard I really like.  Both opinions are the opposite of what I see is popular online!


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Alex on March 06, 2022, 12:17:56 PM
I wasn't crazy about DISCOVERY, but I loved the first season of ST: PICARD.  Watched the first episode of Season 2 last night and was very impressed!

Same here.  Watched the first ep of Disco and could not watch any more of it. It's not 'Trek'.   Picard I really like.  Both opinions are the opposite of what I see is popular online!

Have you watched Star Trek: Below Decks?


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Trevor on March 06, 2022, 12:58:33 PM
BREAKING BAD

There's another series that I am not mad about: I have only watched the first and the last episodes.

The Walking Dead was OK (I have seasons 1 and 2 on DVD) but I think it's really overstayed its welcome. Also, Negan is now a good guy?  :buggedout:


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Trevor on March 06, 2022, 02:34:37 PM
Two others that I didn't enjoy:

The Prisoner remake with Sir Ian McKellen
The Day of The Triffids remake with whoever.


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Newt on March 06, 2022, 02:47:29 PM
Have you watched Star Trek: Below Decks?

Not yet.  I have heard it is better than the recent live action versions?  I have been meaning to take a look.

I liked The Orville.


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: zombie no.one on March 06, 2022, 02:51:33 PM
BREAKING BAD

There's another series that I am not mad about: I have only watched the first and the last episodes.


it's probably poor form to write off an entire multi-season series based on the first episode, but the first ep of BB grated on me so much. . it almost felt like someone trying to combine Tarantino and Coen Bros styles, but missing the mark by a mile

I admit my patience levels tend to expire very easily if I'm not immediately gripped by something though. when people say things like "you have to stick with it, it gets so much better", I'm already out


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: ER on March 06, 2022, 03:10:32 PM
I think Colin Baker is much better as Doctor Who than the fandom gives him credit. It's just that a couple of ill-advised creative choices in "The Twin Dilemma" (which is nowhere near as bad as its reputation would have you believe) had him give a bad first impression. And as the cliche phrase goes, you don't get a second chance with a first impression.

I agree, I like.Colin Baker and his era of the show.


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Trevor on March 06, 2022, 07:57:40 PM
To be honest, I have never found American Dad and Family Guy very funny at all.


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: bob on March 06, 2022, 10:22:32 PM
Friends, 2 and a Half Men and Family Guy are terrible.

I loved Extant.


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Trevor on March 07, 2022, 03:11:45 AM
The remakes of 'Salem's Lot and The Stand sucked, compared to the originals of 1979 and 1993.


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Alex on March 07, 2022, 03:57:03 AM
The remakes of 'Salem's Lot and The Stand sucked, compared to the originals of 1979 and 1993.

I thought the original of The Stand was great up until the end bit in Vegas. Can't say I've seen either remake so far.


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Trevor on March 07, 2022, 06:52:36 AM
The remakes of 'Salem's Lot and The Stand sucked, compared to the originals of 1979 and 1993.

I thought the original of The Stand was great up until the end bit in Vegas. Can't say I've seen either remake so far.

The new version of The Stand has gender and race swapped roles from the original (not necessarily a bad thing) and the new version of Salem's Lot has Ben Mears being the vampire.  :buggedout:


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Alex on March 07, 2022, 08:18:15 AM
The remakes of 'Salem's Lot and The Stand sucked, compared to the originals of 1979 and 1993.

I thought the original of The Stand was great up until the end bit in Vegas. Can't say I've seen either remake so far.

The new version of The Stand has gender and race swapped roles from the original (not necessarily a bad thing) and the new version of Salem's Lot has Ben Mears being the vampire.  :buggedout:

To me changing the original story is just the filmmaker saying I can make your story better than you did. I understand that not everything written on the page works on the screen and some parts need to be taken out for that or other reasons (especially length), but putting new stuff in just seems wrong and disrespectful to the source material and author.


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Sitting Duck on March 07, 2022, 08:26:50 AM
I think Colin Baker is much better as Doctor Who than the fandom gives him credit. It's just that a couple of ill-advised creative choices in "The Twin Dilemma" (which is nowhere near as bad as its reputation would have you believe) had him give a bad first impression. And as the cliche phrase goes, you don't get a second chance with a first impression.

I agree, I like.Colin Baker and his era of the show.

I suspect another reason for all the Sixth Doctor hate is that he's the one which John Nathan-Turner left his mark.


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Trevor on March 07, 2022, 01:50:17 PM

To me changing the original story is just the filmmaker saying I can make your story better than you did. I understand that not everything written on the page works on the screen and some parts need to be taken out for that or other reasons (especially length), but putting new stuff in just seems wrong and disrespectful to the source material and author.

Agreed totally  :smile:


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Trevor on March 07, 2022, 01:53:58 PM
OK, I think this opinion will get things - underpants, shoes, small rodents (thank you, Indy) etc thrown at me.

Except for a few episodes here and there, I have never found The Big Bang Theory funny, in fact quite the opposite. The cast is great but I find Jim Parsons' character grating and too much of a know it all.

All of us here, we are all nerds (I say that with pride) but that lot on that program:  :buggedout:

There, I've said it. *Hides in bathroom*


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: JuanSnz on March 07, 2022, 04:24:17 PM
The idea of The Big Bang Theory was that every male character had a certain cliché about the nerds, so that the viewer could laugh about them, or laughing about himself.
And that was the original description of the show: Just 4 guys, with degrees in Sciences that are socially awkward and like all the things about the comics, superheroes, SciFi fandom like Star Wars, Star Trek, technology enthusiastic, video games, and so, so. Basically the stereotypical nerd.

But, then, the producers, writers, or whoever, realize that you don't have to be a nerd for enjoying movies about superheroes (besides was the fact that Series begin before the start of mostly of the Marvelverse movies) or be a fan of SW, or be a gamer; you could be just a regular man/woman who works, or study or has a no-Science career and at the same time has in some moments a geeky side.

In my case, I didn't watch the last season, and I think I don't want to watch it. In the latest seasons, some episodes were more like "What could do Sheldon about this or what could Sheldon say about that or whatever something Sheldon in this episode" and that was enough for me, I never like the character as a whole thing, as a whole person. I always feel myself more like a mix of cliché or personal aspects from the other characters, even Penny, than from a single one.

I still remember the episode where (guess who?) Sheldon can not decide if buying a PlayStation 4 or an Xbox One, and he is citing and comparing all the features of each console and that make him anxious, and he is annoying everyone, like always...

And, yes, the episode was a product placement.


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Gabriel Knight on March 07, 2022, 09:19:12 PM
As a huge fan of fantasy, I think that GAME OF THRONES and its creator are the worst thing that ever happened to the genre. They exist only to destroy it from it's very core.


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Trevor on March 08, 2022, 02:19:05 AM
The new Magnum PI and MacGyver: never seen them, don't want to. :twirl:


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: RCMerchant on March 08, 2022, 03:04:08 AM
I never seen an episode of the Big Bang Theory.
I never seen that meth head show Breaking Bad.That show just p**ses me off.
 
Actually, I don't watch a lot of modern TV. It bores the sh!t out of me. Fake 'reality' shows, bulls**t talent shows (not one of these people, including the judges, have any talent), game shows where a 12 year old would know the answers- awww- f**k it.

I did like River Monsters!

I like nature shows. I like history shows. (not Ancient Aliens or it's ilk- too much wiggle room for bullsh!t.)
Ghost hunting and bigfoot hunting is some of the laziest TV I've ever seen. Run around an old house or the woods- and have 5 seasons of this sh1t and nothing ever happens.


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Trevor on March 09, 2022, 01:30:32 PM
I loved How I Met Your Mother but I think I'll give How I Met Your Father a pass.

WTF are they going to make next? How I Met Your Symbiotic Twin or How I Met Your Mugger? :buggedout:


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: zombie no.one on March 09, 2022, 02:25:16 PM
OK, I think this opinion will get things - underpants, shoes, small rodents (thank you, Indy) etc thrown at me.

Except for a few episodes here and there, I have never found The Big Bang Theory funny, in fact quite the opposite. The cast is great but I find Jim Parsons' character grating and too much of a know it all.

All of us here, we are all nerds (I say that with pride) but that lot on that program:  :buggedout:

There, I've said it. *Hides in bathroom*

I think you're actually being too kind here! one of the least amusing tv shows I've ever seen, to the point that it makes me angry if I happen to catch a bit by accident. just pure annoyance


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: lester1/2jr on March 09, 2022, 09:55:05 PM
I don't get Star Trek and pretty sure I never will. All they do is stand in front of that big screen and say stuff


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Gabriel Knight on March 10, 2022, 03:21:08 PM
OK, I think this opinion will get things - underpants, shoes, small rodents (thank you, Indy) etc thrown at me.

Except for a few episodes here and there, I have never found The Big Bang Theory funny, in fact quite the opposite. The cast is great but I find Jim Parsons' character grating and too much of a know it all.

All of us here, we are all nerds (I say that with pride) but that lot on that program:  :buggedout:

There, I've said it. *Hides in bathroom*

I think you're actually being too kind here! one of the least amusing tv shows I've ever seen, to the point that it makes me angry if I happen to catch a bit by accident. just pure annoyance

I recommend looking for the "no laugh track" clips in YouTube for the most cringeworthy moments of your life.


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: zombie no.one on March 11, 2022, 12:47:51 PM
had a look... yeah these 'no laugh tracks' are interesting, they did one for Friends. problem is some of the laughter spills over on top of the next bit of dialogue so you can still hear it


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Rev. Powell on March 11, 2022, 01:15:38 PM
OK, I think this opinion will get things - underpants, shoes, small rodents (thank you, Indy) etc thrown at me.

Except for a few episodes here and there, I have never found The Big Bang Theory funny, in fact quite the opposite. The cast is great but I find Jim Parsons' character grating and too much of a know it all.

All of us here, we are all nerds (I say that with pride) but that lot on that program:  :buggedout:

There, I've said it. *Hides in bathroom*

I think you're actually being too kind here! one of the least amusing tv shows I've ever seen, to the point that it makes me angry if I happen to catch a bit by accident. just pure annoyance

Me three.


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: indianasmith on March 11, 2022, 11:42:06 PM
well, I'm totally put off by what many people swear are two of the funniest sitcoms of all time - SEINFELD and FRIENDS.
On the other hand, I find BIG BANG THEORY endlessly hilarious.
It would be a boring world if all people had the same tastes in comedy.


See, that's easier than just saying: "You are so wrong, philosophers weep at the sound of your voice!"


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: RCMerchant on March 12, 2022, 01:38:03 AM
I don't get Star Trek and pretty sure I never will. All they do is stand in front of that big screen and say stuff

The original series has lots of action!  But I agree on the other Trek based shows.


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Trevor on March 12, 2022, 01:51:22 AM
See, that's easier than just saying: "You are so wrong, philosophers weep at the sound of your voice!"

That's what most philosophers say about me anyway  :wink:


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Chuck Most on March 12, 2022, 02:11:01 AM
I don't think finding Big Bang Theory unfunny is all that unpopular an opinion. The majority of the "jokes" are just references (OMG HE JUST SAID BABYLON 5!!!!1!!), and the remainder are tired 90s tropes borrowed from Friends and Seinfeld dressed in stereotypical nerd cosplay. I did see one episode where James Earl Jones guest starred that was okay, but that was only because he was in it.

I never really could get into Battlestar Galactica. A Star Wars knockoff underpinned with a weird Mormon theme? Nah... I'll stick to crappy Italian movies when I need my Star Wars knockoff fix. Never mind the fact the main bad guy was a Klingon and it had a pre-A Team Dirk Benedict. Needless to say I never even gave the SyFy reboot a watch. Galactica 1980 had it's moments in a cornball kind of way. William Daniels (voice of KITT) in a clown costume? Don't mind if I do!

As an aside, I love Rick and Morty but I can't stand a big percentage of it's fanbase.



Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: zombie no.one on March 12, 2022, 02:43:53 PM
well, I'm totally put off by what many people swear are two of the funniest sitcoms of all time - SEINFELD and FRIENDS.
On the other hand, I find BIG BANG THEORY endlessly hilarious.
It would be a boring world if all people had the same tastes in comedy.


See, that's easier than just saying: "You are so wrong, philosophers weep at the sound of your voice!"

some of my closest friends have wildly opposing taste in certain things to me... just how it is. conversely there are some people I know whose passion for certain things I share, and yet I do not like them as individuals.  I don't know how this works...

p.s. never found Seinfeld funny either actually.


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Cult_Moody_Movies on March 16, 2022, 11:41:25 PM
Jimmy Fallon, Stephen Colbert and Jimmy Kimmel make me miss Jay Leno.


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: claws on March 18, 2022, 12:39:30 AM
Jimmy Fallon, Stephen Colbert and Jimmy Kimmel make me miss Jay Leno.

Jay Leno once complained that Late-Night is too Political, but it didn't stop him from making jokes about Trump.
I like Jimmy Kimmel who, according to QAnon, has been executed and replaced with a lookalike.
Kimmel keeps me updated on the QAnuts, FoxNooz, right-wing propaganda, the pillow idiot and the Trump Circus madness.
It is great comedy, like reacting to a bad movie.


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: RCMerchant on March 19, 2022, 12:51:21 PM
I like Jimmy Kimmel.
But that late at night I mostly watch TV shows about serial killers or WWII.
And really insane old movies!  :drink:
 


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: HappyGilmore on March 22, 2022, 08:29:09 AM
Never dug The Sopranos at all.  Entirely overhyped.


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Trevor on March 22, 2022, 10:03:00 AM
Never dug The Sopranos at all.  Entirely overhyped.

Finally someone agrees with me  :cheers:


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Newt on March 22, 2022, 04:33:07 PM
Never dug The Sopranos at all.  Entirely overhyped.

Finally someone agrees with me  :cheers:

Count me in too!   :cheers:


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Trevor on March 22, 2022, 11:43:45 PM
Never dug The Sopranos at all.  Entirely overhyped.

Finally someone agrees with me  :cheers:

Count me in too!   :cheers:

As I said, James Gandolfini was a great actor (and I have read over and over again that he was a nice person) but The Sopranos is full of unlikable characters in an unlikable setting. Oh yeah and the Soprano crew is called the DeMeo Crew, named after a psychopathic killer.  :buggedout: :buggedout:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_DeMeo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_DeMeo)


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: sprite75 on March 24, 2022, 03:56:55 PM
I just never thought SEINFELD was that funny.  FRIENDS either.

Yeah I never really got into watching Seinfeld or Friends either. 

And as much as I love Star Trek I wish to Christ they would lay off the time travel and section 31 stories already.  It's a f**king crutch to use either of those alone or in combination.  It wasn't so bad up through DS9 but then they used time travel in place of solid writing.


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: chainsaw midget on April 13, 2022, 01:06:17 PM
I never really got into the Walking Dead. 

I think it dragged on far too long and even for zombie cinema it felt incredibly downbeat. 


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Trevor on April 14, 2022, 04:18:09 AM
I never really got into the Walking Dead. 

I think it dragged on far too long and even for zombie cinema it felt incredibly downbeat. 

I've got seasons 1 & 2 on DVD and it was OK back then, but now not so much anymore.


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Newt on April 14, 2022, 07:39:15 AM
I have never liked the TOS ep "City on the Edge of Forever".  Yish.  I wasn't buying it when it first aired and still don't see what the praise is about.

And I think "Wrath of Khan" is the worst ST movie.  Well, maybe second-worst.  Saw it in the theater when it came out.  Just an overly-long cheesy TV episode.

There.  I said it.


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Trevor on April 14, 2022, 12:52:14 PM
I have never liked the TOS ep "City on the Edge of Forever".  Yish.  I wasn't buying it when it first aired and still don't see what the praise is about.

I liked it but it is very, very overrated: the only really good thing in it is Dame Joan Collins. Errand of Mercy is still my fave episode.  :smile:


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: bob on April 30, 2022, 08:10:11 PM
The Big Bang Theory is trash


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Trevor on May 15, 2022, 02:41:46 AM
The new Magnum PI and MacGyver: never seen them, don't want to. :twirl:

I see both have now been canceled  :question:


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: claws on May 15, 2022, 03:31:43 AM
Never cared about X-Files. I watched a few but there wasn't anything much of interest for me. Episodes felt like a tease with lots of blah blah and Scooby-Do like endings. I also couldn't get into the Mulder and Scully characters, found both to be very unsympathetic.

I should also note that the series had an unusual high ammount of commercial breaks. Even back then I hated TV commercials so X-Files was an easy skip.

Never seen "Lost" or "Games of Thrones." The hysteric over-the-top and annoying in-your-face hype on social media made me actually less interested. Also, I didn't want to subject myself to commercials again. At that time I had already stopped watching TV because of commercials, and for shows edited for prime time.
So there was really no point in watching either.


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Trevor on May 15, 2022, 05:57:28 AM
Never cared about X-Files. I watched a few but there wasn't anything much of interest for me. Episodes felt like a tease with lots of blah blah and Scooby-Do like endings. I also couldn't get into the Mulder and Scully characters, found both to be very unsympathetic.

The first three seasons had the best episodes for me: the rest were kind of 'meh'.


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: pacman000 on May 16, 2022, 10:59:17 AM
Laugh tracks aren't that bad; I can ignore it. Audience laughter is actually good, if they aren't prompting the audience to laugh.


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Jim H on May 18, 2022, 11:34:02 AM
Not sure how unpopular it is, but I saw a lot of people who really liked Yellowstone: 1883 and said it was much better than the main series.  I guess maybe it's better in a serious sense (Yellowstone is junk, but often entertaining junk), but it's still really tawdry melodrama and the narration by the female lead is completely absurd and ridiculous the entire series, just terribly delivered.   It's often boring, feels twice as long as it needs to be.

It's also extremely dreary and depressing, the bad stuff that keeps happening is so extreme it beggars belief - it's like suffering porn.  Like, not exaggerating, the Donner party got off MUCH better than the wagon train in this series.  About half of them died, for reference.  Also, it's in 1883, when wagon trains were nearly done and the routes were much safer, so it's historically inaccurate. 

Sam Elliot is great, it's pretty, but that's about all I liked a whole lot. 


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: claws on May 18, 2022, 12:04:27 PM
Had to google Yellowstone (1883), never heard of it which makes sense since it is a Paramount+ exclusive? IMDb ratings seem to be going through the roof though  :buggedout:


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Jim H on May 18, 2022, 02:13:19 PM
Had to google Yellowstone (1883), never heard of it which makes sense since it is a Paramount+ exclusive? IMDb ratings seem to be going through the roof though  :buggedout:

Have you heard of regular Yellowstone?  It's a Kevin Costner show, modern day Neo Western kind of thing.  It's actually the #1 show on TV now, pretty much, which is kind of amazing considering how little discussion there is online about it.  It's like, invisible.  1883 was a limited one season prequel spinoff.  They're doing another one now set in the 1930s, and that one is going to have Harrison Ford in it apparently.


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: RCMerchant on May 18, 2022, 04:44:17 PM
Had to google Yellowstone (1883), never heard of it which makes sense since it is a Paramount+ exclusive? IMDb ratings seem to be going through the roof though  :buggedout:

I'll bet old middle age mothers watch it for Sam Elliot. And the horses.


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Jim H on May 18, 2022, 05:22:00 PM
Had to google Yellowstone (1883), never heard of it which makes sense since it is a Paramount+ exclusive? IMDb ratings seem to be going through the roof though  :buggedout:

I'll bet old middle age mothers watch it for Sam Elliot. And the horses.

Not even joking, the writer and creator of the show (who also did Wind River and Hell or High Water, guys got talent for sure) plays a character on the regular Yellowstone show, and they show him riding horses like 3 or 4 times an episode doing montages of horse riding tricks, and it's irrelevant to the storyline 99% of the time.  It's so masturbatory it's hilarious.


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: kornula on July 26, 2022, 10:27:34 PM
OK, I think this opinion will get things - underpants, shoes, small rodents (thank you, Indy) etc thrown at me.

Except for a few episodes here and there, I have never found The Big Bang Theory funny, in fact quite the opposite. The cast is great but I find Jim Parsons' character grating and too much of a know it all.

All of us here, we are all nerds (I say that with pride) but that lot on that program:  :buggedout:

There, I've said it. *Hides in bathroom*

The Big Bang Theory is a stupid show about smart people.
   Arrested Development is a smart show about stupid people.


I wholly agree, Big Bang Theory is nothing but a 100% formulaic sit com with horrible people we want to avoid in real life. 

However, I love "House". Granted, I only like about 10 whole episodes out of the whole series. The producers started making him even more self destructive than was necessary IMHO.  I stopped watching after he crashed his car into Cuddy's living room.

I do agree, "Seinfield" was never funny, clever or original. Highly over rated.

I may get some flack for this..but MASH ... not that good a show.


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Sitting Duck on July 27, 2022, 07:32:27 AM
I may get some flack for this..but MASH ... not that good a show.

The show with the message that it's okay to be a bully, so long as your target is an @$$hole. The inherent flaw in this being that most if not all bullies perceive their targets as such.


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: kornula on July 27, 2022, 08:10:26 PM
I may get some flack for this..but MASH ... not that good a show.

The show with the message that it's okay to be a bully, so long as your target is an @$$hole. The inherent flaw in this being that most if not all bullies perceive their targets as such.

So glad it's not just me that noticed that ugly side of the show


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: indianasmith on July 27, 2022, 11:57:28 PM
The ending of GAME OF THRONES really wasn't that bad.


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: bob on July 29, 2022, 08:40:00 PM
Mad Men sucks


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Gabriel Knight on September 30, 2022, 10:33:05 AM
I tried once but couldn't get into BREAKING BAD. Currently it's probably one of the highest rated shows in IMDb for some reason, and I've heard pretty much everybody I know rave about it. I'll try again one day, but for now I simply don't care about the whole premise.


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: chainsaw midget on September 30, 2022, 01:12:30 PM
I've never watched a single episode of Game of Thrones and don't intend to.  Nothing I've seen from it interests me. 


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Morpheus, the unwoke. on October 09, 2022, 02:52:00 PM
Law and order criminal intent was the best LnO spin-off ever made.


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: WingedSerpent on October 21, 2022, 11:41:12 PM
Aside from the Charlie Murphy's segments,  most of Chappelle's Show  really wasn't that funny. 

Bob's Burgers is incredibly hit or miss.  One episode will be hilarious, the next will be boring as h e l l .  Its one of those shows I want to like more than I do.

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Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Rev. Powell on October 22, 2022, 12:47:11 PM
Aside from the Charlie Murphy's segments,  most of Chappelle's Show  really wasn't that funny. 


The blind klansman sketch was a comedy classic. Other than that, I don't think I ever laughed at "Chappelle's Show."

The best black sketch comedy show was "Key & Peele," constantly hilarious.


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Ticonderoga 64 on October 23, 2022, 07:11:53 PM
The Jodie Whitaker era of DOCTOR WHO is the worst that the show has ever seen, she is a p**s-poor Doctor and showrunner Chris Chibnall ran the show into the ground with his s**tty writing and unlikable characters . I'm glad that they both have left.


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Trevor on October 24, 2022, 11:49:50 PM
Law and order criminal intent was the best LnO spin-off ever made.

Goren was an amazing character, 😊😊


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Gabriel Knight on October 25, 2022, 07:56:22 AM
I consider GAME OF THRONES, and particularly its creator, the single worst thing that ever happened to fantasy. Sometimes I felt as if they were deliberately trying to destroy the genre from its roots, converting it into something opposite of what it should be, filled with sex, extreme violence, and devoid of virtues, heroes, and optimism.
Sadly, even the ending that everybody seemed to hate didn't helped to its downfall. Now everyone is watching the prequel, ready to get owned by the creators once again.

Oh well, I just hope they never get their greedy hands on my beloved Dragonlance.


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Gabriel Knight on January 18, 2023, 08:01:48 AM
So, last night I rewatched the episode THE INNER LIGHT of STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION. I remember doing it for the first time a couple of years ago, and being very hyped about it. I mean, it's the highest rated episode and usually considered as the best in the entire series. I was all like, better than Q WHO, THE ENEMY, THE DEFECTOR, YESTERDAY'S ENTERPRISE? Better than THE OFFSPRING and THE MEASURE OF A MAN? No way. And that's just counting some episodes before season 5.

SPOILERS ALERT

When I finally watched, I felt... underwhelmed. This second time, I was plain bored. I don't know what I expected, but certainly not that over sentimental stuff. I mean, don't get me wrong, it's a great episode, but it's not only inconsistent, but deeply flawed. How did that people managed to create such a piece of technology when they barely started to launch missiles to the sky, for example?
Something that I feel it could've helped the episode a lot was to save the reveal of his return as a surprise ending, meaning, you only see what happens in the Enterprise after the planet collapses. Otherwise it's pretty obvious that he is living a lifetime in a matter of minutes, taking away the impact.

One of my main gripes is that the experience should've changed Picard completely, and yet they never even make a reference to it, except in another one where it barely matters. Not only that, but Picard wakes up and he's like "ok, I'm back being a captain now". Seriously? After a lifetime, you just go back? Come on.
Not to mention, it could've happened to anyone. Picard doesn't really act as Picard in this other life, you could've changed to Riker and nothing changes. Hell, it could happen in any sci fi or fantasy series or movie. It feels totally disconnected from the rest of the episodes, as if it were a standalone production.

I know this rant makes no sense, especially decades after it aired, but it's just bugs me.

tl;dr: THE INNER LIGHT from STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION is overrated.


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Sitting Duck on January 18, 2023, 08:54:42 AM
Most everyone seems to love the new Trigun: Stampede, but I'm not one of them. First off, there's the computer animation, which is the source of much of the praise. But I feel more like Gypsy reacting to the new wallpaper in the prologue host segment from the MST3K episode The Beast of Yucca Flats, screaming, "WRONG! WRONG!!! WRONG!!!!!" Then there's how so much of the worldbuilding that was carefully parcelled out through the 1998 series gets infodumped in the first episode. But the biggest crime was getting rid of Milly Thompson, which some of the current series lovers are willing to acknowledge was a Bad Idea.


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: sprite75 on January 30, 2023, 02:57:16 PM
So, last night I rewatched the episode THE INNER LIGHT of STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION. I remember doing it for the first time a couple of years ago, and being very hyped about it. I mean, it's the highest rated episode and usually considered as the best in the entire series. I was all like, better than Q WHO, THE ENEMY, THE DEFECTOR, YESTERDAY'S ENTERPRISE? Better than THE OFFSPRING and THE MEASURE OF A MAN? No way. And that's just counting some episodes before season 5.

SPOILERS ALERT

When I finally watched, I felt... underwhelmed. This second time, I was plain bored. I don't know what I expected, but certainly not that over sentimental stuff. I mean, don't get me wrong, it's a great episode, but it's not only inconsistent, but deeply flawed. How did that people managed to create such a piece of technology when they barely started to launch missiles to the sky, for example?
Something that I feel it could've helped the episode a lot was to save the reveal of his return as a surprise ending, meaning, you only see what happens in the Enterprise after the planet collapses. Otherwise it's pretty obvious that he is living a lifetime in a matter of minutes, taking away the impact.

One of my main gripes is that the experience should've changed Picard completely, and yet they never even make a reference to it, except in another one where it barely matters. Not only that, but Picard wakes up and he's like "ok, I'm back being a captain now". Seriously? After a lifetime, you just go back? Come on.
Not to mention, it could've happened to anyone. Picard doesn't really act as Picard in this other life, you could've changed to Riker and nothing changes. Hell, it could happen in any sci fi or fantasy series or movie. It feels totally disconnected from the rest of the episodes, as if it were a standalone production.

I know this rant makes no sense, especially decades after it aired, but it's just bugs me.

tl;dr: THE INNER LIGHT from STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION is overrated.

Status quo was god with Star Trek to the point that show runners had to fight to get the episode Family made the way they wanted.  Namely that Picard's assimilation by the Borg was something that was going to be with him for a very long time and he wasn't going to be all healed up by the next episode.  Paramount didn't want that and just have Picard back in the center seat next episode like nothing happened.  Fortunately the show runners stood their ground and we got to see Picard dealing with the effects of what the Borg did to him.  Yeah, they didn't touch on the Borg all that much for the rest of the series but First Contact and the new Picard series made it clear Picard was still suffering mental trauma from being assimilated decades after he was assimilated.

Unfortunately some of the other traumas that obviously would've taken more than one episode to heal from weren't addressed for Picard.  Picard was tortured by the Cardassians but you never really heard mention of that after Chain of Command.  I agree that they didn't really explore the aftermath of what happened after The Inner Light, and that even if the 20 years of life was lived in 20 minutes Picard should have been profoundly affected over the long term.

And it wasn't just with Picard.  Worf, for example, had his spinal column replaced but was back to normal the following episode.  Or on DS9 where Chief O'Brien had his own misadventures.  Such as 20 simulated years of imprisonment.  The trauma of that almost drove him to suicide but he was back to normal the next episode.


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: chainsaw midget on February 01, 2023, 07:59:54 PM
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Most everyone seems to love the new Trigun: Stampede, but I'm not one of them. First off, there's the computer animation, which is the source of much of the praise. But I feel more like Gypsy reacting to the new wallpaper in the prologue host segment from the MST3K episode The Beast of Yucca Flats, screaming, "WRONG! WRONG!!! WRONG!!!!!" Then there's how so much of the worldbuilding that was carefully parcelled out through the 1998 series gets infodumped in the first episode. But the biggest crime was getting rid of Milly Thompson, which some of the current series lovers are willing to acknowledge was a Bad Idea.
I will back you 100% on it being bad. 

The first time you see Vash in the classic series he's shown as a badass.  Then you see he's out of ammo and freaks out.  The first several episodes plays with the idea of whether or not this guy is as dangerous as his reputation suggests or maybe he's just really unlucky. 

The new series shows him as helpess and caught the first time you see him and by the end of the episode he's shown to be an unnatural shot.  In general that's a big problem with the new series.  It gives away everything way too fast.  Mysteries that lasted a dozen episodes or more were  just given away in the first episode. 

Likewise, the first series was clearly a western, with some sci-fi. 

There's no Western at all in this new series.  It's no more western than any other sci-fi series set ona  desert planet.  Dune or Star Wars feels more western than the new Trigun. 


.... 

ANYWAY... unpopular opinion of mine.  If a season of your show is less than 12 episodes, you don't have a show.  You have a miniseries. 


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: ER on June 01, 2023, 08:29:07 AM
The Sopranos was overrated. Its storytelling was of a high quality in parts of its run but at other times the quality was not there. A few of the actors gave consistently marvelous performances, but most of the cast were no better than you'd find anywhere. I'd argue that it ran out of places to go long before it ran out of screen time. I see it as more of a fin de siècle cultural phenom than a show detined to be an an enduring classic. In fact I think it's already off the cultural radar screen. I don't hold that last part against it, exactly, but in its heyday it was hard to find a critic who wasn't calling it TV's all-time greatest drama, destined to be adored forever. Shrug, time will tell.


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Rev. Powell on June 01, 2023, 08:39:46 AM
Unpopular opinion? I never really much liked "Star Trek" anything. The first series was OK, at times; the dynamic between the three main characters was entertaining. The plots were usually silly. The movies were occasionally good (THE WRATH OF KHAN), but often really bad. No interest in any of the reboots.


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: RCMerchant on June 03, 2023, 04:41:22 PM
I loved the first series. The rest- not a fan at all. The WRATH OF KHAN was good!


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: ER on June 04, 2023, 10:10:33 AM
I don't understand how soap operas were ever popular. They have the slowest moving storylines I have ever.... I mean never did I imagine writers could drag something out like soaps do. And then there's the sheer amount of suspension of disbelief required. A viewer is expected to believe a baby born one season is a child the next, a teen the next, and the season after she's pregnant and on drugs holding up an airliner where she is a veteran flight attendant. Everyone has a long lost twin, and it's also possible to get plastic surgery and pass for someone else, fooling even this person's spouse and baseball-playing year-old children. Likewise every business owner has an archenemy who comes back from the dead to ruin him. Yet soaps made it to prime time and in the '80s millions of people put aside all incredulousness and readily tuned in to show with plot holes big enough for the coke-addled fast-maturing flight attendant to pilot a 747 through.


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: Alex on June 04, 2023, 11:06:09 AM
Always hated soap operas, game shows, and reality tv.


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: RCMerchant on June 17, 2023, 11:38:23 AM
How I Met Your Mother, Friends, Seinfeld...almost all sit coms make me puke. MASH was good for the first couple of seasons- then it got all touchy feely. Ugh. Most cop shows are sh!t. How many f**king CSI shows are there? I liked Criminal Minds for a while, but catching serial killers takes years- not an hour. I know it's just a TV show, but it reminded me of Kolchak- the Night Stalker, instead of Monster of the Week, it's serial killer of the week.


Title: Re: Unpopular TV series opinions you hold
Post by: HappyGilmore on June 28, 2023, 12:47:57 PM
Law and order criminal intent was the best LnO spin-off ever made.
Yes. Yes indeed.

Fantastic show.