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Title: Recycled Music Post by: Mofo Rising on October 15, 2002, 01:15:09 AM Something odd I noticed while I was watching the new LORD OF THE RINGS preview. For some reason, during the last half they use one of the themes from REQUIEM FOR A DREAM. Now it works well for the preview, but if you've seen REQUIEM you start thinking "Hobbits. . . junkies. . . hobbits. . .". It's an uncomfortable parallel.
Very often a movie will recycle another's music for their trailer. The BEETLEJUICE theme has been recycled countless times. Can anybody else think of scores that were used this way? Or even movies that use another's score for the movie itself? Title: Re: Recycled Music Post by: Evan3 on October 15, 2002, 01:49:03 AM Oh yeah, Take the movie Moulin s**t (oops i mean Moulin Rouge) they couldnt write their own songs so they stole other people's (trust me that movie belongs on this site, it is frighteningly bad). Also, how many Scream music paradies float around? Lastly, if you listen for a while, every single John Williams piece of music starts sounding like one song, big and brassy (like part of my anatomy ;-)Mofo Rising wrote:
Title: Re: Recycled Music Post by: J.R. on October 15, 2002, 04:16:02 AM I noticed the Requiem music too, and it's fitting, but weird. Two pieces of music used over, and over, and over again in trailers are the themes to Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story and Dragonheart, both by the excellent composer Randy Edelman. They're very sweeping, gripping scores, usually used to make you think the movies being advertised are dramatic tour de forces, which they usually aren't.
Title: Re: Recycled Music Post by: Neville on October 15, 2002, 05:58:13 AM That's common practice, because when the trailer is prepared the music for the movie is still on the works. I've seen many trailers using music from "Dragonheart", and Hans Zimmer music for "Gladiator" was very fashionable for a while.
Title: Re: Recycled Music Post by: Squishy on October 15, 2002, 07:38:28 AM In older B-movies, recycling music was quite common; in seems like almost all of Bert I. Gordon's black-n-white monster flicks have the same Al Glasser score, which was also pasted onto "Varan The Unbelievable" and God knows what else...
A piece from Jerry Goldsmith's unused metallic score for "Judge Dredd" was used in the trailer--and subsequently several other action movie trailers. (That they rejected the Goldsmith score just goes to show the idiot thinking that doomed "Dredd" from the start.) I hate hearing a nice piece of music in a trailer--or many trailers--that doesn't appear in that particular film...especially when I can't find the source. Title: Re: Recycled Music Post by: Fearless Freep on October 15, 2002, 10:33:31 AM Watching "Freddy's Dead" last night, some of the music seem to be lifted or at leat imitated from "Night On Bald Mountain"
(The rest was a rather weak offering from Brian May) Title: Re: Recycled Music Post by: Vermin Boy on October 15, 2002, 04:26:56 PM "What's This?" from Nightmare Before Christmas seems to have become trailer shorthand for "quirky children's fantasy"; the theme from Brazil, "quirky adult fantasy" (Being John Malkovich, etc.)
If I only had a dime for every movie that used the score from Creature from the Black Lagoon... Title: Re: Recycled Music Post by: Chadzilla on October 15, 2002, 04:43:00 PM Randy Newman's fanfare from The Natural has been used to punctuate soaring triumph montages in sports movie trailers, etc.
Maximum Overdrive used the end title theme from Halloween 3 (called Chariots of Pumpkins on the soundtrack) in its TV commericals. Title: Re: Recycled Music Post by: Dano on October 15, 2002, 06:49:56 PM The helicopter chase theme from the Peacemaker was used in the trailers for Hart's War.
The theme from Crimson Tide has been used in lots of trailers, although Independence Day is the only one that comes to mind. Title: Re: Recycled Music Post by: Nobody on October 15, 2002, 08:30:54 PM The theme song to Conan The Barbarian gets used quite alot in movie trailers and movie commercials as well. Title: Re: Danny Elfman Post by: Andrew on October 15, 2002, 09:57:27 PM Speaking of "The Nightmare Before Christmas." Listen to some of Elfman's scores and you will notice renditions of "Minnie the Moocher." Off the top of my head, both "TNBXMAS" and "Forbidden Zone" have that tune. I know that there are more, because a group of us spent about a month finding them in different films.
Title: Re: Recycled Music Post by: John on October 16, 2002, 01:54:38 AM After (I think) Terminator II came out, I saw a couple TV ads for other films that used that part of the theme with the rumbling sounds.
Doesn't bother me as much as the piece of crap movie I watched on HBO that lifted the entire Cyberdyne police shootout and inserted shots of a different actor standing in the window. Title: Re: Recycled Music Post by: Squishy on October 16, 2002, 02:48:35 AM I think we could fill an encyclopedia with misuse of A-movie footage in B-movies...
The English-language "love song" at the end of "Godzilla 1985" was replaced in part by music from "Def-Con 4." I don't know if the music originated in "Def" or came from somewhere else... "Goodbye now Godzilla! Goodbye now Godzilla! My old friend... Sayonara 'til we meet again." --part of that song Title: Re: Recycled Music Post by: svbell on October 16, 2002, 03:31:36 PM I recall being shocked when I heard Alien III, in the last minutes, shamelessly stealing Terminator
There was also in Mask of Zorro (Banderas) where you can hear the music of The Phantom (Billy Zane) -sv Title: Recycled film Post by: Dano on October 16, 2002, 05:22:05 PM How about actual film footage that has been recycled?
Danny Baldwin starred in an AWFUL movie about a ragtag bunch of fighter pilots thrown together for "an impossible mission" ("You keep using that word -- I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya). Anyway, they are supposed to be F-15 pilots, but there are scenes of F-16s in the Iron Eagle movies and F-14s from Top Gun. I think the only original airplane footage in this movie is a few takeoffs and landings, and Danny Baldwin sitting in the cockpit. I want to say it was called "Blue Thunder" but I am not certain. Then there was that "Imposter" or "Intruder" movie that starred Gary Sinise as an Earth scientist who was suspected of being an alien spy by Vincent D'Onofrio. Madeline Stowe was Sinise's wife, and Mekei Pfeiffer was also in it. At the beginning when they were showing how the alien enemies in this movie had attacked Earth, they stole footage of Paris getting clobbered by an asteroid from "Armageddon" and the ruins of Buenos Aires from "Starship Troopers." I'm sure there are more examples, but these are the two most flagrant I can think of. Title: Re: Recycled Music Post by: Fearless Freep on October 16, 2002, 05:42:40 PM How about actual film footage that has been recycled?
The greatest example of this is Roger Corman and "Battle Beyond The Stars". He recycled his own space footage from that movie in about a dozen others The silliest is probably "Space Mutiny" taking all it's outer space shots from "Battlestar Galactica" Title: Re: Recycled Music Post by: Dano on October 16, 2002, 05:57:58 PM The greatest example of this is Roger Corman and "Battle Beyond The Stars". He recycled his own space footage from that movie in about a dozen others
***** Wasn't that the movie that used the same explosion for every time something was supposed to explode in space? You could literally recognize the individual sparks. And I do recall this same exact explosion in other movies - including one about a lost kid who takes up with space pirates that used the same doofus spaceship from Battle Beyond the Stars. Title: Re: Recycled Music Post by: Fearless Freep on October 16, 2002, 06:26:18 PM Wasn't that the movie that used the same explosion for every time something was supposed to explode in space?
Possibly, but that's not an uncommon technique for cheapo movies. Title: Re: Recycled Music Post by: Vermin Boy on October 16, 2002, 06:58:43 PM Personally, I think Corman's most blatant use of recycling was Hollywood Boulevard, where literally every action scene is from a different Corman film (off the top of my head, Bloody Mama and Death Race 2000, though there were many more). To be fair, though, that was a result of Joe Dante and Allan Arkush making a bet that they could outdo Corman's lowest budget.
Title: Re: Recycled Music Post by: Fearless Freep on October 16, 2002, 07:01:19 PM Corman also reused pretty much his own whole scipt between "To Sleep With A Vampire" and "Dance Of The Dammed"
Title: Re: Recycled Music Post by: Fearless Freep on October 16, 2002, 08:40:18 PM To be fair, though, that was a result of Joe Dante and Allan Arkush making a bet that they could outdo Corman's lowest budget.
Given Corman's library of films he's produced, etc.. he could probably assemble a movie from a lot of his prior footage, and it would probably be just as *good* as the original Title: Re: Recycled Music Post by: Squishy on October 17, 2002, 02:53:15 AM The Gary Sinise bomb (huh huh me make spoiler) Dano mentioned is Impostor (http://us.imdb.com/Title?0160399). It is supposed to be horrifically bad; apparently it is a thirty-minute TV episode from a sci-fi anthology series padded waaaaaaaaay out with "footage"--including an alien bombardment of New York lifted from "Armaggedon."
"Look! A lesbian--of the FUTURE!!" --Mike, MST3K, "Time Chasers" Title: Re: Recycled Music Post by: Dano on October 17, 2002, 04:43:40 PM The Gary Sinise bomb (huh huh me make spoiler)
***** heh heh, that's not bad. The plot was indeed straight out of the modern day (which is to say the sucky) Outer Limits series and despite the fairly promising cast, it is woefully bad. There is a whole sub-plot that might have been tacked on for extra length about Sinise teaming up with one of the rabble left outside the protective city domes (social commentary!) to get back in the city to prove his innocence. Lots of it seemed to rip off Minority Report (although it came out first), such as a scene where a building is scoured with little robot drones and the big-brother is watching you society - except instead of removing his eyes to avoid identification, Sinise removes a little surgical implant that everyone has. Avoid this one. Not even good for a laugh. Title: Re: Recycled Music Post by: Bernie Jacobs on October 17, 2002, 05:15:40 PM The most blatant case of recycled music that I know of is Ed Wood's "Jailbait" which reuses the whole score (practically) from "Mesa of Lost Women." Since both movies were produced by the same company, though, I wonder if this was Ed's choice.
Title: Re: Recycled film Post by: frannie on October 17, 2002, 05:22:27 PM I saw Windtalkers last night. There were a couple scenes involving the California shelling a Japanese position. The drop off in film quality was pretty bad as the kept switching from modern film to something that looked as if it had been pulled from the history channel.
Title: Re: Recycled Music Post by: Shounen Kakumei Pikachu on October 18, 2002, 02:06:15 AM hmmm...what about Buck Rogers and Battlestar Galactica? Ever notice that the launch sequence in both movies only differs in the shots of the actors and exterior shots of the fighters?
Title: Re: Recycled Music Post by: John on October 19, 2002, 08:14:58 PM >hmmm...what about Buck Rogers and Battlestar Galactica? Ever notice that the
>launch sequence in both movies only differs in the shots of the actors and >exterior shots of the fighters? Yup. Most of the space battle footage was used over and over. Also check out Airwolf, after the first few episodes, all the footage of the helicopter flying was recycled. In particular, it would be shown flying along with all the weapons deployed, then they'd get to where they were going and you'd get closeup recycled footage of the guns coming out. |