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Title: Winona Ryder found GUILTY Post by: Chadzilla on November 06, 2002, 04:01:50 PM of felony grand theft and vandalism!
Title: Re: Winona Ryder found GUILTY Post by: wheresthecarrot on November 06, 2002, 04:11:14 PM HAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Winona Ryder found GUILTY Post by: Evan3 on November 06, 2002, 04:57:56 PM Its always refreshing to see an arrogant loser receive justice (like Robert Downey Jr.)
Title: Re: Winona Ryder found GUILTY Post by: raj on November 06, 2002, 06:40:59 PM Well, it was kinda hard to explain all that clothing and stuff with the price tags cut off. Her latest excuse "I was just researching for a movie role, yeah, that's the ticket, a movie role that was going to win me an Oscar, yeah, and the presidency of France, yeah, that's the ticket" (sorry, just channeling for Jon Lovizt for a second) was pretty damn lame. She should have said that she was whacked out on those pain pills, and didn't know what she was doing.
2 to 1 she gets no jail time, just probation, community service and a hefty fine. Title: Re: Winona Ryder found GUILTY Post by: AndyC on November 06, 2002, 06:54:40 PM I'm not surprised she was convicted. Her lawyer's arguments made no sense.
Title: Re: Winona Ryder found GUILTY Post by: Chadzilla on November 06, 2002, 06:59:09 PM raj wrote:
> > > 2 to 1 she gets no jail time, just probation, community > service and a hefty fine. My guess as well, jail sentence suspended, hefty fine, and community service... maybe as a Door Greeter at Wal-Mart? Title: Re: Winona Ryder found GUILTY Post by: John on November 06, 2002, 10:44:25 PM I think they should send her to jail and film it as a new women in prison movie. I'd pay to watch the shower scene.
Title: Re: Winona Ryder found GUILTY Post by: Squishy on November 07, 2002, 05:30:01 AM Eh, I'd be surprised if Robert frickin' Blake did time. They're celebrities, they tain't like you and me. Still, it WAS nice to see her found guilty...
Title: Re: Winona Ryder found GUILTY Post by: Evan3 on November 07, 2002, 02:39:58 PM hmmm, how sad when the punishment doesnt fit the crime, in my opinion the jury should spend a month in Siberia for such lax punishment
Title: Re: Winona Ryder found GUILTY Post by: raj on November 07, 2002, 02:53:26 PM Wait, there hasn't been any punishment yet, we're all just guessing. FWIW, most shoplifting cases result in very little, or no, jail time (at least for first offenses).
Title: Re: Winona Ryder found GUILTY Post by: Fearless Freep on November 07, 2002, 03:54:26 PM Yeah, the sentancing is not until next month or so.
Hard to say, shoplifting as a first offense doesn't seem to carry much of a penalty so if she got of with probation and community service, I don't think it would be too unreasonable, celebrity status or no. On the other hand, the value of what she lifted was a lot higher than most shoplifting offences :) Title: Re: Winona Ryder found GUILTY Post by: AndyC on November 07, 2002, 05:14:46 PM How do theft laws work in the USA? In Canada, when the stolen goods are worth more than $5,000, it becomes a different crime. There's theft under and theft over $5,000.
Assuming the charge of grand theft is comparable to our theft over, I'd think that would qualify her for a stiffer penalty than a shoplifter who rips off something small. That said, I'm inclined to agree that she'll get a slap on the wrist. Title: Re: Winona Ryder found GUILTY Post by: Dano on November 07, 2002, 06:28:36 PM raj wrote: 2 to 1 she gets no jail time, just probation, community service and a hefty fine.
***** C'mon, raj, who the heck gets jail time for for a first-offense shoplifting rap?? If she was a nobody picked up for a first offense the 2 to 1 odds would be that the store wouldn't even press charges. Title: Re: Winona Ryder found GUILTY Post by: raj on November 08, 2002, 11:21:54 AM It depends on the state, each one gets to set its own level of what is a felony and what's a misdemeanor. There may be some federal constitutional issues involved in punishing too severely a petty crime (such as taking a candy bar and getting life in prison for it.) California's three strikes law is actually now before the Supreme Court for that issue. Apparently now Winona has 2 strikes, since she's gotten 2 convictions out of this.
I've stumbled across a good take on the California system here: http://volokh.blogspot.com/ It's the fourth item down under the Wednesday, November 06, 2002 heading. Title: Re: Winona Ryder found GUILTY Post by: Redjackr on November 08, 2002, 03:36:16 PM FREE WINONA!!!
sorry, i just had to say it Title: Re: Winona Ryder found GUILTY Post by: Creepozoid on November 09, 2002, 09:12:19 PM raj wrote:
> > It depends on the state, each one gets to set its own level > of what is a felony and what's a misdemeanor. There may be > some federal constitutional issues involved in punishing too > severely a petty crime (such as taking a candy bar and > getting life in prison for it.) California's three strikes > law is actually now before the Supreme Court for that issue. > Apparently now Winona has 2 strikes, since she's gotten 2 > convictions out of this. > > I've stumbled across a good take on the California system here: > http://volokh.blogspot.com/ > It's the fourth item down under the Wednesday, November 06, > 2002 heading. California law and government is by all means a joke. Just lock the b!tch up is what I say since being a celebrity seems to make you above the law. |