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Sometimes, I think some actors are just not that good, sometimnes they have one good role and so critics and people both say they are great no matter what. Sure some actors are almost always good and two of the consistently great ones have the name Tom (Cruise and Hanks). However, here are three who I think are always overrated.

1) Jaoquin Phoenix- Really Good, not great, in Gladiator. Quills was awful and crazy and he acted like he was too. I thought he was the comedic relief in Signs and his character really showed no talent or growth and was the weakest link of that movie.

2) Haley Joel Osmet- Look, what has he done since the Sixth Sense. I mean was he acting in that movie or was he really scared. Since that movie he has been in two great busts (A.I. and Pay it Forward, neither in which he turned in a great performance.) Also, I dont think having big eyes and a look of amazement can overcompensate for very breathy acting (does anyone else notice that he likes to hyperventalate in all of his movies?) I think that the kid from Gladiator and Unbreakable is a better actor and thought the boy from the Ring did a better job too.

3. Halle Berry- Look, I think she is O.K., but not great. All she did in Monster's Ball was cry a lot. I dont think being a good weeper means you are a good actress. Plus, she does she have to take off her shirt in everything (Swordfish, Monster's Ball, and soon in James Bond). I can see X-Men 2 (in which she plays the mutant Storm). " I call on the power of the wind to..... Oh my shirt blew off!!!

So do you have any additions or disagreements.

Haley Joel Osmet- Look, what has he done since the Sixth Sense

Again, that was only three years ago and the kid is now only fourteen years old.  In ten or twenty years when he's grown up and established himself, or not, as an actor and individual, then you can start ragging on him as an over-hyped, no-talent if that's how he ends up.

I think most actors have gone through three or four  year stretches of one good movie and two bad.  That's simply too small a sample in a person's career to make such assessments, especially at his age

It seems that a person's ability to cry is often confused with talent. Very rarely will the Oscar for Best Actor/Actress go to a performance  that didn't involve crying.

I've always hated Julia Roberts.  That buck toothed, big mouthed no talent annoying laughing dork!  She gets on my nerves to no end.

Deena

I always loved that commercial of the white duck yelling "Afleck". If that duck is anywhere releated to Ben Afleck, I have to say the duck is sure a better actor than Ben. Sorry, just a stupid joke I thought of.

Seriously, I don't see what is so great about this dude. He might have a handsome face, but his acting skills range from crude to just downright bad. I live near Chicago and local radio Steve Dahl said it best about Afleck, "We saw you in PEARL HARBOR, it wasn't that great". Perfectly describes Afleck.

Chris K. wrote:
>
> I always loved that commercial of the white duck yelling
> "Afleck". If that duck is anywhere releated to Ben Afleck, I
> have to say the duck is sure a better actor than Ben. Sorry,
> just a stupid joke I thought of.
>
> Seriously, I don't see what is so great about this dude. He
> might have a handsome face, but his acting skills range from
> crude to just downright bad. I live near Chicago and local
> radio Steve Dahl said it best about Afleck, "We saw you in
> PEARL HARBOR, it wasn't that great". Perfectly describes
> Afleck.


Amen. They used that joke in MAD once in their spoof of SUM OF ALL FEARS.

Evan3 wrote:
>
> Sometimes, I think some actors are just not that good,
> sometimnes they have one good role and so critics and people
> both say they are great no matter what. Sure some actors are
> almost always good and two of the consistently great ones
> have the name Tom (Cruise and Hanks). However, here are three
> who I think are always overrated.
>
> 1) Jaoquin Phoenix- Really Good, not great, in Gladiator.
> Quills was awful and crazy and he acted like he was too. I
> thought he was the comedic relief in Signs and his character
> really showed no talent or growth and was the weakest link of
> that movie.
>
> 2) Haley Joel Osmet- Look, what has he done since the Sixth
> Sense. I mean was he acting in that movie or was he really
> scared. Since that movie he has been in two great busts (A.I.
> and Pay it Forward, neither in which he turned in a great
> performance.) Also, I dont think having big eyes and a look
> of amazement can overcompensate for very breathy acting (does
> anyone else notice that he likes to hyperventalate in all of
> his movies?) I think that the kid from Gladiator and
> Unbreakable is a better actor and thought the boy from the
> Ring did a better job too.
>
> 3. Halle Berry- Look, I think she is O.K., but not great. All
> she did in Monster's Ball was cry a lot. I dont think being a
> good weeper means you are a good actress. Plus, she does she
> have to take off her shirt in everything (Swordfish,
> Monster's Ball, and soon in James Bond). I can see X-Men 2
> (in which she plays the mutant Storm). " I call on the power
> of the wind to..... Oh my shirt blew off!!!
>
> So do you have any additions or disagreements.

I disagree on Osment (even if he is a one-hit wonder). I agree pefectly about Berry. She is painful to watch and listen to. Everyone says she's hot, what a crappy world we live in.

<>

Aaaaaaamen. She's not an actress, she's a movie star. An obnoxious, not overly bright media darling. When she said, "I love my life," before giving Denzel Washington his Oscar I wanted to kick her horse face. Others in this category include Sharon Stone, Charlize Theron (whose ability to appear in over eighty movies a year I admire), Ben Affleck and Vin Diesel.

Alec Baldwin:  I have seen him perform well in a movie exactly ONCE - the arrogant egomaniac in "Malice".  I will give him credit for some hilarious stuff on SNL, but generally he strikes me as some sort of throwback to the 30s or 40s - back before actors were supposed to ACT.  His brothers don't even merit consideration.

Neve Campbell - Can anyone tell me why this weepy, whiny little wretch has a career?  She isn't even at least good looking.   I swear she has them write a crying scene into all her shows and movies because it's all she can do.

Nicholas Cage - He's done some decent work, but it is all wiped clean by the one flight simulator scene in "Firebirds".  He also makes way too much dreck.  And Oscar my ass -- Penn was robbed that year.

Sharon Stone - Just watch "Quick and the Dead" some time.  She couldn't act her way into a MacDonalds bathroom without ordering something.

J-Lo

Well, time will tell with Osmet... I just dont think he has done anything great yet to even merit that he might be great later.  Also, as I said, there are better actors his age out there
Someone else mentioned Vin Diesel, I must agree, after Pitch Black his movies have been eXXXtremely horrible. He just isnt as good an action star as say Arnold or Stallone or Snipes or hell, even (gratuitous comparison) Carrot Top could pull off the stuff he does with more excitement (imagine carrot top in a car with tons of Nitrous Oxide, hehehehehe).

But another two to add to the list are Kate Hudson (Almost Famous was Almost a decent movie) and Eddie Murphy. Seriously, that guy is only funny in one out of 10 attemots, I would take Chris Rock, the dude from Rush Hour, or someone with class like Bill Cosby over Eddie Murphy any day.

Hell, I'll jump on the "I Hate Julia Roberts" bandwagon.

And throw in Steven Segal to boot, not from his movies (I have not seen any of his flicks) but because he's just an incredibly arrogant jerk.

Eddie was good on SNL, the first funny guy ouside of the original cast.  His early movie career was fine, Trading Places, 48 Hours, Beverly Hills Cop.

Then I guess he got more focused on giving rides to transvestite hookers, and less on his movies.

raj wrote:
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> Hell, I'll jump on the "I Hate Julia Roberts" bandwagon.
>
> And throw in Steven Segal to boot, not from his movies (I
> have not seen any of his flicks) but because he's just an
> incredibly arrogant jerk.

Agreed on both counts.

Having seen some of Segal's flicks, I can also assure you that his arrogant jerkiness is not reserved for his private life. Ken, over at jabootu.com, has a nice review of On Deadly Ground that says it better than I could.

Agreed.  Trading Places is one of the five funniest movies I have ever seen.  But something happened to Murphy at the end of the 80s.  He pretty much stopped being funny with the notable exception of Bowfinger.

>Again, that was only three years ago and the kid is now only fourteen years old.
>In ten or twenty years when he's grown up and established himself, or not, as an
>actor and individual, then you can start ragging on him as an over-hyped, no
>-talent if that's how he ends up.

 I don't think he's a particularly good actor either. Look at Thora Birch, she started acting in films when she was like 6-7 and has continued to appear in a variety of films. I can only think of 3 that Osment has been in and he acted the same in two of them and almost the same in the third.

>the dude from Rush Hour

Chris Tucker

Sandra Bullock,   can someone tell my why this woman continues to get work?  She has a repetoire of one facial expression that lies somewhere between braindead and constipated.

Julia Roberts annoys me for pretty much the same reason.

Halle Berry, yeah she's alright to look at, but couldn't act her way out of a wet paper bag.  I also cannot get that horrid  line from the X-men out of my head, the 'what happens to a toad when it gets struck by lightning' line.  My dead grandmother could have delivered that better.  ( in her defense, the line was remarkably weak to begin with)

Steven Segal is a no talent, one trick, arrogant asshat.   Jean Claude Vandamme suffers from the same disease.

Adam Sandler,  maybe i'm just too old to understand his humor, but i find him as amusing as a handful of duck excrement.   Put him on the same barge as Carrot Top and sink em in the atlantic.

Leonardo Di-crap-io  and Kate Winslet.    Lame  Lame Lame...

Madonna -  She can sing,  and she's a shrewd business woman..  She can't act to save her life.

J-Lo   -  she's not particularly pretty, has no acting abilitiy.. she does however have a fairly nice keister.

Salma Hayek    -  The definition of Vapid.   I've seen rocks with higher IQ's

Freddy Prinze Jr.     Where the hell did this asshat come from anyway? And Why is he in EVERYTHING.??   I prayed that Wing Commander would end his career...but he's like a cockroach, he keeps coming back!

Oh yes, I forgot thosw teen losers, only two I think have even a little amount of acting talent (Reese Witherspoon and Sarah Michelle Gellar).

Freddie Prinze Jr., Matthew Lillard and the worst one of all, Jennifer Love Hewitt, and now she is trying to sing!!! For some reason they got rid of the fun actors in I know What You Did Last Summer, and kept the two horrible actors (Freddie Prinze and Love Hewitt). Then they wonder why the second was so bad.

Oh and that Tim Robbins guy, he is such an ass in real life and only has had one good role (Shawshank Redemption). Whats so great about him.

Julia Roberst is the most f*cking annoying person ever to walk the earth. Her face makes me wanna puke and don't get me started on her "acting".

Madonna.  I agree 100%.  Not one movie she was starring in (Evita doesn't count, she sang through the entire movie) was ever good.  Even supporting roles (Dick Tracy, Desperatly Seeking Susan) she sucked.

Hallie Berry.  I don't know.  Of all the actors listed on this thread, I belive Berry is the only one who won both an Oscar and an Emmy (uh, The Diary of Dorathy Danridge, or something like that)
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And may the Schwarts be with you.

One more thing...

J-sLOw-minded.  This woman can't sing, can't act, but can shake that fat ass with the best of them.  And now this woman is going to marry for the second time to fellow bad actor Ben Affleck.  Jennifer No-tal--(oops) Lopez is no actess not even a star.  All she is is an attention getter

Good lord,  what happens if two bad actors breed?   Is that how we got CarrotTop?

Man, you guys just don't bad actors and actresses. Most of the names mentioned here are just 'popular' actors in big budget movies where it's fun and easy to slam on them.  Most of them actually aren't that bad.  And some are pretty darned close to Peter O'Toole compared to who I usually think of as bad actors.

Angelika Jager - Valerie in "Robot Holocaust"
Persis Khambatta - Cobalt in "Phoenix The Warrior" (and honorable mention to her role in "Megaforce")

More mumbling heroes in more post-apoc cyborg time-travelling movies then I dare to admit I've seen...

But, then, to me that is the spirit of "Bad Movies".  It's not about watching "Titanic" or "Scooby Doo" and ripping it.  That's too easy.  It's about watching "Trancers 4" and *enjoying* the experience...and looking for "Trancers 5" for next weekend. Ripping Denise Richards in "Starship Troopers" is easy, ripping Denise Richards in "Tammy And The T-Rex"...now that's fun.

Tatum ONeal was good in Paper Moon and Bad News Bears, but has since dropped off the radar screen.

Jodie Foster has had a long career, and is only forty.

Any others?

>Steven Segal is a no talent, one trick, arrogant asshat. Jean Claude Vandamme
>suffers from the same disease

At least VanDamme seems like he might be a nice guy in person, while Segal's attitude just screams "I'm an a***ole". I know one person who claims to have met him and he says that's a pretty accurate description. Also, I might have mentioned this before, but a friend's son is into karate and when his school decided to put on some charity event, they wanted a celebrity to help pull people in. They contacted Segal, but he would only do it if it was an all expenses paid trip, luxory hotel suite etc. They contacted Chuck Norris instead and he did it for free.

>J-Lo - she's not particularly pretty,

It depends how she's made up. I see her in magazines, most movies and I think "Why did I ever think she was attractive?", but then I'll look at her Maxim pics, or she'll be in a movie where she isn't wearing $500 worth of cosmetics and a cheap pornstar hairstyle and I remember why I occasionally like her.

>Freddy Prinze Jr. Where the hell did this asshat come from anyway? And Why is
>he in EVERYTHING.?? I prayed that Wing Commander would end his
>career...but he's like a cockroach, he keeps coming back!

This I completely agreed with. I actually heard one news show call this doofus the most handsome teen actor today. Personally, I think he would have been better suited to playing Scooby than Fred...

>Hallie Berry. I don't know.

I've heard that she's going to be the first Bond girl to get her own spin-off movie!

>Tatum ONeal was good in Paper Moon and Bad News Bears, but has since
>dropped off the radar screen.

I never watched Paper Moon and don't remember much about The Bad News bears. For me, Little Darlings will always be the movie I most associate with her.

I have a friend who is in a movie that Segal filmed recently in Poland.  He says that the guy is always talking in hushed tones (to anyone who'll listen, ironically, so why the hushed tone?) about his days in the CIA.  He'd give my friend and other actors tips about how a real CIA agent would ambush someone or break into a room.  Steve, a hint: if you'd been a real life CIA agent, you wouldn't be blabbing it to everyone... especially while in a foreign country, moron.  He pulled the same thing while a guest on Letterman - he insinuated something about being in the CIA and then refused to talk about it and got all serious asking Dave to change the subject.  HE brought it up!!  Delusional or trying to build a mystique?  You be the judge.

Jennifer Lopez is a babe as far as I am concerned.  Fat ass??  No no no.  You mean "PHAT" ass.  : )

Anyone can say what they want about Halle Berry and the crappy roles in crappy movies she has made, but I thought "Monster's Ball" was a moving film and I thought she was great in it.  I don't tear up much when watching movies, but the scenes where she got mad at her kid for being fat choked me up.  A more deserved Oscar than most.

The thing that seemed strange about Monsters Ball was that the characters didn't seem to grow after all that. They were horrible people at the beginning and horrible people at the end.

Can't say I have any opinion on Berry's acting - never paid much attention. She is good looking though.

As for "J-Lo," I would have to say that the thing that bothers me most about her is that stupid moniker. That's all she seems to be called anymore, and it's annoying as hell.

Why is the media making such a big deal about this marriage anyway. It's not like it's gonna last 3 years (to say 2 would be wishful thinking).

raj wrote:
>
> Tatum ONeal was good in Paper Moon and Bad News Bears, but
> has since dropped off the radar screen.

Could this because she is really mean and has a drug addiction???

BlackAngel wrote:
>
> Hallie Berry.  I don't know.  Of all the actors listed on
> this thread, I belive Berry is the only one who won both an
> Oscar and an Emmy (uh, The Diary of Dorathy Danridge, or
> something like that)

I dont think the oscars are that good of a job. Honestly, the past two or three best movies have not even been nominated (see: Memento, Matrix)
Also, I think there are a lot of politics involved in the academy (why else would two Crowe pics win best movie/best actor)

Agreed on "J-Lo."  I can't stand it.  Maybe they'll call her husband-to-be "B-Af" and then we can all add the "R."

I think the main point of "Monster's Ball" is that horrible people are still people, and even the worst are capable of love and kindness.  Were they still horrible at the end?  Well, yeah, you're right, they were.  But that's realistic.  Nobody transforms completely in the space of months... but they were at least on their way.  That's how I saw it at least.

I'm still fruitless in my attempts to get my friends to call me J. Ro. Anyway, J.Lo is this "keepin' it real in tha ghetto, yo," type, why is she marrying quite possibly the biggest honkey in the world?

On the subject of Tim Robbins, Susan Sarandon- She talks like she has a permanent headcold. And she's a hippie. I hate hippies.

And Van Damme is an a***ole too. His drunken tirades and sexual harrassment are well-documented.

I'm still fruitless in my attempts to get my friends to call me J. Ro. Anyway, J.Lo is this "keepin' it real in tha ghetto, yo," type, why is she marrying quite possibly the biggest honkey in the world?
*****  She's marrying Al Gore??

: )

After "A-Rod" was being called that, they started calling other baseball players with "Rodriguez" as a last name in similar fashion.  Such as "I-Rod" (Ivan Rodriguez) his teamate.

I heard someone asking why the don't do that for other names.  Like "P-Mart" for Pedro Martinez, but then someone suggested that he should be called "K-Mart"

I used to agree with the whole Jennifer Lopez bewilderment thing, but then on a recommendation I rented her in "Blood and Wine", with Jack Nicholson and Michael Caine.  I really brought home to me something I see all the time in the showbiz world, though it's easier to see in a stage production:  Sometimes, a little good Direction makes all the difference.  I now know J-Lo can act, and act quite well, if given the proper encouragement.  Go figure . . .
peter johnson

Occasionally I see shots of her (Lopez) in "Selena" on T.V. and I'm actually impressed with her acting and stage presence.  I think this was before she was big in her own right.

Same with Salma Hayek.  Seeing her in some interviews and in some shots from "Frida", she's pretty smart and a very hard worker.   She gets type-cast for being a female hispanic into roles I don't think she really likes, or at least roles that don't give her enough breadth to work as an actress.

And Lopez was easily the best Fly Girl on Living Color.