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Title: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: Ash on December 12, 2002, 01:31:36 PM
I watched "King of the Hill" last night for the umpteenth time.

I have never actually hated a cartoon character in my life until now.  
I mean, there's alot of cartoon characters we've all grown up with that we don't like (Scrappy Doo for instance, or one of the idiot Smurfs who never banged Smurfette when he had the chance or made a secret deal with Gargamel to take over) for some reason or other but we just accept them and go on with the show.  
Never in my life have I seriously not liked a cartoon character until now.  

I have to admit.

I HATE HANK HILL'S DAD!!!!!!!

Everytime an episode that seems to center on him airs, I shudder.

I hate this cartoon character!!!!!  

Cotton Hill must die!!!

If it isn't his ranting & raving, (which most men in their 70's don't do, cause usually their too old & tired like MY grandpa is...there are some exceptions though) it's his stubby short legs and black beads for eyes and a voice as caustic as battery acid that make me want to jump into the toon itself and put my hands around his throat!
I know you're envisioning it right now!

Hank himself runs a close second.  I'd shoot myself if I had a dad like him.  Always so overreactive about everything and totally happy and willing to be a pawn for Strickland Propane.  
To me, being the lackey of a dirty old man who happens to own his own business  and not owning a business of my own is nothing other than settling for second best in life.  
Not me!  
No sir!
He strives for good moral values but he's still a pathetic dimwit in my opinion.
And whenever he seems to be in the middle of anything even SLIGHTLY out of the ordinary he gives that usual "UUUhhh"!   Can you hear it in your head?  
I can!  
(reminiscent of Butthead..... yes I know, they're both voiced by Mike Judge)


As a matter of fact when I think about it, I dislike most every character in this show with one exception, Dale.

I can pinpoint why I like him the best.  
Maybe because he also seems to take things too far but still be likeable in the end.  
I dislike most every character in this show yet still I watch it.  
I think the reason I like it and hate it at the same time is because for every character in it, I know a person in real life who closely resembles them.  

I still hate Hank's dad.

Do you dislike any characters from "King of the Hill"?

What cartoon character do YOU despise and for what reason???



Post Edited (04-01-03 21:56)


Title: Footnote...
Post by: Ash on December 12, 2002, 01:39:00 PM
I went to the I.M.D.B. and discovered that the character of Bobby Hill, Hank's son is voiced by a woman!

I had no idea!  Very convincing!

I don't like his character either.  

Too fat and a thin hair helmet.


Title: Re: Footnote...
Post by: frannie on December 12, 2002, 01:56:35 PM
actually i think most cartoon boy's voices are done by women.


Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: Deena on December 12, 2002, 02:02:36 PM
I never liked stupid Tom and Jerry.  They always annoyed the bejuzus out of me, even when i was a kid.  I mean come on, can't that idiotic cat catch a break or just give up?

Deena



Title: I agree Deena...
Post by: Ash on December 12, 2002, 02:10:46 PM
I agree with you Deena....Tom & Jerry was one of the few toons I didn't like growing up either.



Title: OOPS!
Post by: Ash on December 12, 2002, 02:10:50 PM
Oops!  Duplicate post by accident!  Sorry!


Title: OOPS AGAIN!
Post by: Ash on December 12, 2002, 02:11:57 PM
Proceed to next post!


Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: AndyC on December 12, 2002, 02:22:09 PM
Tom and Jerry is a tough one. I like the old, violent cartoons. They were funny. The politically correct ones from the 70s, where they're friends and never seem to get into any real conflict, are awful. The style was all cutesy and the stories weren't written to appeal to anyone over the age of three.

The cartoon characters I hate the most are the add-ons, the redundant characters thrown into a good show because somebody felt it needed improving. Scrappy was already mentioned. This could also include the talking animals ABC added when they adapted their hit sitcoms to cartoons in the early 80s.

Oh yes, and any of the creepy-looking, deformed characters in Nickelodeon cartoons.



Title: AAAAGGGHHH!!! Rugrats!!!
Post by: Ash on December 12, 2002, 02:36:27 PM
Another toon I despise!!!

Just take a close look at the "Rugrats".

The mere sight of them makes me want to vomit!!  

Their dented and malformed heads have my guts churning.

Oh!!  

That did it.

Watch out!  

Here it comes!!

BBBLLLLAAARRRRPPPP!!!

"Ash to Housewares, clean up in aisle five!"


Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: Creepozoid on December 12, 2002, 02:39:32 PM
Personally, Ilove Hank's dad. He and Hank's moronic friends (especially the paranoid one) are what make the show.

And I hate nick shows too. I've been p**sed at that channel ever since they canned Rocko.


Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: wheresthecarrot on December 12, 2002, 02:45:37 PM
Warner brothers, except for marvin suck in general.



Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: Vermin Boy on December 12, 2002, 04:56:24 PM
Agreed. I miss Rocko dearly-- Spongebob seems like a dumbed-down version of that show. I loved the episode where Filburt gets a fortune cookie that reads "Bad luck and extreme misfortune will infest your pathetic soul for all eternity."

Also, the more I get older, the more I find I appreciate Ren & Stimpy. The opposite seems to be true for Rugrats.

And I never have, and probably never will see, the point of Doug.


Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: Funk, E. on December 12, 2002, 05:04:35 PM
I absolutely despise Beavis and Butthead. They are evidence that civilization is in decline. Just the thought of them ... grrrrr!


Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: raj on December 12, 2002, 05:26:18 PM
True.  I tried watching B & B.  They are annoying, not funny.  I also hate Tom & Jerry.  It was always the same, and while Bugs usually got the better end of it, he would lose to the tortise.  i can't stand Family Guy or King of the Hill.  Why does Fox keep King on, and dump Futurama.  Oh wait, I guess I answered my question.  It's Fox.

The best quote I came across about Scrappy was on Jump the Shark:  Christ I hate that friggin' dog.
And I'm a person who loves dogs.  Just not Scrappy.

I also despise that overgrown mutant rodent Mickey.  He's always a bit too happy for me, I wonder what pills he's been popping.


Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: J.R. on December 12, 2002, 05:54:50 PM
I've always hated Tom And Jerry or any other cat-and-mouse duo. The poor cat is just tortured and abused because he does what cats do-CHASE MICE!

The one that always p**sed me off are the Trix commercials where those sadistic little bastards won't let the rabbit have the ceareal THAT HE'S THE MASCOT FOR! Not even at Christmas was he allowed to taste the forbidden fruity cereal that his own mug helped to sell.



Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: OfftheWall on December 12, 2002, 06:12:30 PM
On the pro side to me anyway, without Beavis and Butthead we'd never of had Daria which I feel was one of the greatest (if not the greatest) none Music Televison thing, their cartoons ususally weren't that bad, i recall a really cool one called Oddities "ThE HEAD" in which this guy had an Alien living in his head.


Title: MickeyMinnieGoofyPlutoDonald
Post by: Dano on December 12, 2002, 06:17:54 PM
The main disney characters are the worst.  They're a bunch of easily drawn, easily animated squeaky imbeciles.  With the exception of Donald (who was a grouch), there wasn't an ounce of personality among them.  What makes me even madder is their immense popularity.  To paraphrase Bart Simpson: I didn't think it was physically possible, but the main Disney characters both suck and blow at the same time.

wheresthecarrot:  I completely disagree with the Warner Brothers comment.  While I could have lived without Sylvester, Tweetie, and Pepe LePew, the stuff WB did between 1941 and 1955 was no less than the funniest stuff ever animated.  It is funny to kids and adults, it is both violent and child-appropriate at the same time, and it is rooted much further back in our history than that chirping, gyrating mouse.  Buggs Bunny himself is a white, urban, Yankified version of Brer Rabbit, an oral tradition going back to the African tribes and brought to this country by the slaves.  WB's characters were the most imaginative, best animated, funniest, and culturally relevant cartoon characters ever.



Title: Re: MickeyMinnieGoofyPlutoDonald
Post by: Vermin Boy on December 12, 2002, 06:55:42 PM
I could never really identify with the Disney toons as a kid either. I think part of it, inconeivable as it sounds, was lack of exposure. While Mickey, Minnie, et al were undeniably omnipresent, I didn't really get a chance to see much of their actual cartoons (I didn't get cable, so no Disney channel, and there weren't that many tapes of them available in the late 80s). I didn't have anything against them per se, but I looked at them as more advertising logos than anything else (which is really what they are). The Looney Tunes, however, were readily available in their raw, uncut glory at the time, and in many ways shaped who I became. Looking back at them, one of the most remarkable things about them is what BASTARDS most of them are, yet still remain likable. Back in the day, Bugs, Daffy, and the rest were out-and-out antiheroes. I especially love the one where Bugs meets Little Red Riding Hood, and eventually teams up with the Wolf because Red's so annoying.


Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: ABPOS on December 12, 2002, 08:45:42 PM
ive always hated jerry from tom & jerry.  tom is always minding his own business when jerry strikes an attack. i wish tom would win just once. IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK?!?!?!?!



Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: Fearless Freep on December 12, 2002, 08:53:49 PM
tom is always minding his own business when jerry strikes an attack.

Not always, it's pretty fairly balanced.  It's definitely a more dynamic relationship then Sylvester and Tweety or The Road Runner and Wile. E. Coyote, that's for sure.  No definite good guy or bad guy.



Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: Creepozoid on December 12, 2002, 09:08:20 PM
Joe Bob wrote:
>
> ive always hated jerry from tom & jerry.  tom is always
> minding his own business when jerry strikes an attack. i wish
> tom would win just once. IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK?!?!?!?!


You know. That reminds me-I ALWAYS ROOTED FOR THE BAD GUYS WHEN I WATCHED TOONS AS A KID.


Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: J.R. on December 12, 2002, 10:03:59 PM
Creepozoid wrote:
<<-I ALWAYS ROOTED FOR THE BAD GUYS WHEN I WATCHED TOONS AS A KID.>>

Me too. I was behind the Blockheads on Gumby and other trouble-makers because they usually had more character in their toenails than the good guys. Gumby and Pokey are idiots and deserve to die the worst deaths imaginable.



Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: ErikJ on December 12, 2002, 10:43:55 PM
I have always hated Mickey Mouse. His voice is like nails on a chalkboard to me. I also can't stand any of the characters from Hay Arnold and Doug. I can't put my finger on it but I just can't stand them.


Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: Megafury on December 12, 2002, 10:52:59 PM
Lisa Simpson, I hate how she's too liberal but I'm actually getting bored of the newer Simpsons shows.

Snady in Spongebob, Spongebob is really a good show, I was surprised that I started liking it but Sandy is a boring character there though.

Rocket Power ,Wild Thornberries, new Rugrats, I hate all the characters in those shows now.


Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: JohnL on December 13, 2002, 03:07:21 AM
>Do you dislike any characters from "King of the Hill"?

Yes, Bill. He's stupid and annoying.

>Do you dislike any characters from "King of the Hill"?

As is Bart Simpson.

>The one that always p**sed me off are the Trix commercials where those
>sadistic little bastards won't let the rabbit have the ceareal THAT HE'S THE
>MASCOT FOR!

I always felt the same way. They ran a vote once and the rabbit won and actually got to eat one whole bowl of Trix.

>I especially love the one where Bugs meets Little Red Riding Hood

My favorites were always the Doctor Jekyll and Mister Hyde ripoff, the one with the mad scientist and the monster and the one with the gangsters. "Would I turn on the gas if my good friend Rocky was in there?", "Hmm, could be rabbit, could be."


Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: Foywonder on December 13, 2002, 03:57:03 AM
Spongebob...somebody explain to me why there are actual adults who enjoy that show. My niece and nephew subjected me to an episode once and it was 30 minutes of nails on the blackboard will having bamboo shafts stabbed under my fingernails.


Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: J.R. on December 13, 2002, 04:44:48 AM
<>

Pot.



Title: Re: Footnote...
Post by: Ken Begg on December 13, 2002, 10:25:31 AM
Yes, this is so their voices won't change if the show lasts more than a year or two.

Bart Simpson being an obvious example.


Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: Flangepart on December 13, 2002, 11:42:30 AM
Warner Brothers Toons are the best! And The gang at Termite Terrace is a panthion, with Chuck Jones as the Ghod.
Jabberjaw......Scrappy doo, Scobby doo doo.......The original Justice league with kids....there are so many to hate......
And Disney toons were cool...if they were in the "Disney Comics and storys" that i read when waiting in the doctors office as a kid. Who was the artest and writer of those? He made the Disney characters fun to read. Carl Barks! Thats the guy!
Hummm....okey. How about movie toons?



Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: ErikJ on December 13, 2002, 01:05:17 PM
I forgot one, Cow and Chicken. That is one of the most disturbing cartoons I have ever seen.


Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: KJ on December 13, 2002, 02:35:36 PM
All Klasky Csupo cartoons (Rugrats, Thornberrys, Rocket Power) annoy the p**s out of me. Mainly it annoys me that Nick fills up a majority of their programming with them, while genius shows like Invader ZIM are shoved out of the limelight.


Title: Gumby
Post by: Deena on December 13, 2002, 04:44:43 PM
You know, I've always liked the gumby show and still do.  But I agree that Gumby sucks!  It was all Prickle and Pokey.  The best Gumby show was one where Goo (the blue girl thing) dropped her hankie and Gumby and Pokey fought over who got to pick it up.  In the end, Gumby (that poophead) beat the hell out of Pokey and gave Goo her hankie back.  Has anyone else seen this one?  I swear I am like the only one who remembers it.

Deena



Title: Re: Gumby
Post by: Vermin Boy on December 13, 2002, 05:32:57 PM
I saw an incredibly disturbing Gumby episode a little while back. Gumby gets mad at Prickles for flirting with Goo (or something), so they agree to a duel. Prickles shows up with a sword... And Gumby's weapon IS A TRAIN! Gumby proceedsto chase Prickles around, threatening to run him over, laughing maniacally all the while. Actual (paraphrased) dialog:

Prickles: Gumby, stop! I'm running out of breath!
Gumby: Had enough, eh? (laughs, continues chasing Prickles with the train)

All throughout the episode, I kept expecting the "violence isn't the answer" speech, with Gumby and Prickles reconciling their differences... BUT IT NEVER COMES. Gumby somehow ties up Prickles with the train, wins back Goo, the end. This wouldn't have been half as disturbing if it were done for laughs (a la Loony Tunes), but the whole thing was strangely straight-faced. It seemed like it was actually saying, "Violence IS the answer, kids. If you percieve that your friend has slighted you, run him down with a train, and all will be righted." I like Gumby and all, but damn, that was disturbing.


Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: BlackAngel on December 13, 2002, 06:36:25 PM
Doug, The Rugrats, Arnold (basically all Nick 'toons) all of which sucks, That goes without question.

Other rants
Power Rangers-every incarnation, from the original, to the movie, to the these new beast rangers--thay still suck.

Disney-not so much Mickey and the rest of the anti-christ corrupting the minds of kids.  But the sidekicks, especially Iago from Alladin.  The voice is like listening to the combination of a scratching blackboard and a very bad hacking cough.

Thundercats-more specifically, Snarf.  Do not let that...that THING talk.  Every sentence has to end in a "snarf-snarf" and all he can do is talk, run and hide.
-------------------------------------------------------------------
And may the Schwarts be with you.


Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: Megafury on December 14, 2002, 02:01:02 AM
Orko sucks in He-Man, he's like Snarf

New Transformers sucks too cuase of the kids that look like they came from Digimon, another horrible cartoon

Spongebob still rules! **smokes pot, oh no wait, it's not pot, it's just salad**


Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: JohnL on December 14, 2002, 03:02:16 AM
>Invader ZIM

I always preferred Alex Mack.

>Power Rangers-every incarnation, from the original, to the movie, to the these
>new beast rangers--thay still suck.

I agree. I watched a few of the original episodes just for Amy Jo Johnson, but the show was incredibly stupid. As were the clones, like VR TRoopers, Masked Rider, etc.


Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: yaddo42 on December 16, 2002, 07:25:54 AM
Pixie & Dixie. HB cartoons sucked anyway most of the time, but I hate "meeces to pieces" too because of this cartoon. Leave Mr. Jinx alone.

Always hated Bevis and Butthead, I went to high school with too many people who were just like them. They never realized the characters were versions of themselves. "King Of The Hill" gets on my nerves, never could make it through an entire episode. I hate Mike Judge's animation, and all the voices he does. Pathetic.

Jabberjaw. Wow, a shark that sounds like Curly from the Three Stooges, how original.

Grape Ape. I swear he was retarded and not just a simple gentle giant the way the cartoon wanted him to be. I'm waiting for some twit in Hollywood to try a CGI big screen remake......


Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: Susan on December 16, 2002, 10:15:16 PM
From this point on i take the risk of being ostrasized but I hate the simpsons. have a cow man.

I hate the original daffy duck of early years. Too much cocaine and far too much like woody woodpecker who I also hate(i always liked the more cynical daffy that came in later years)

I hate astro from the jetsons. And Dino, and most cartoon dog pets that serve no purpose. I also hate cartoon laugh tracks



Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: Nickelodeon Nightmares on December 16, 2002, 11:48:32 PM
I was flipping through one day, and had the misfortune of resting my clicker-finger on a channel playing Generation O! Some of the most repulsively drawn-characters I've ever seen, with grotesquely large lips and teeth that remind me of the most vile racial caricatures of years past. And oh yeah, Hey Arnold! also sucks.


Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: J.R. on December 17, 2002, 12:07:46 AM
<>

Why? Did something bad happen to you that takes all joy out of life? Do you shun all that is good and decent? :)



Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: wheresthecarrot on December 17, 2002, 12:16:51 AM
The Simpsons is, and always will be, the best thing on T.V.



Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: Brother Ragnarok on December 17, 2002, 02:04:58 AM
I don't watch too many toons these days.  I do go out of my way to watch Courage the Cowardly Dog, though.  I love that show.
As for toons I hate, Doug can jump up my butt, and I agree with everyone who can't stand the damn Rug Rats.  Ugh.  
The new Transformers Armada brings out my urge to kill quite strongly, although the comic book it's based on is tolerable.
And I also hate Buddy Lee with the burning passion of a thousand Chernobyls.      I know he's not technically a cartoon, but I think puppets and dolls with personalities, like ventriloquist puppets, are in the same vein.

Brother R


Title: Gahhh! They're all coming back to me now...
Post by: Reed Rothchild on December 17, 2002, 08:44:10 AM
Okay, these are the little f*%kers I hated as a boy:

Does anyone remember Godzooky from Godzilla? God, even as a kid I hated that little bastard. '' Look he's blowing smoke rings at the 100ft energy sucking monster, that'll help. '' Oh, p**s off. I bet Godzilla even detested him.

Uni from Dungeons and Dragons was another useless twat. What could he do?Venger should have made some magical glue and dog food out of him.

And don't get me started on that R2D2 rip off from Battle of the Planets, 7 Zark 7. What in Gods name was the point of him or his stupid f*%king  robotic dog?


Title: Re: Gahhh! They're all coming back to me now...
Post by: AndyC on December 17, 2002, 02:16:05 PM
Oooooo...Godzookie. I hated him. I could somewhat accept the idea of Godzilla hooking up with the crew of a research vessel (an idea ripped off by the more recent Deanzilla cartoon), but what was the point of Minya's retarded brother? It's another example of the thinking at that time that all cartoon adaptations needed some form of animal comic relief. Godzookie belongs in that part of Hell occupied by the likes of Mr. Cool from the Happy Days cartoon, Squealy from Laverne and Shirley, and that stupid alien dog from the Mork and Mindy cartoon. I can't even remember his name. The show sucked so badly, it was gone in no time.

Hated 7-Zark-7 too. It's been a long time since I've watched Battle of the Planets, but I think the segments with Zark and the dog were added into the episodes when they were edited and dubbed for North American TV. Not sure whether a character was needed to set up the chopped up stories so they'd be understood, or somebody in charge just felt a cute robot would go over with the kids.

Funny, as a kid, I always hated the characters who were thrown in to appeal to me. The cute talking animals, child sidekicks and other critters obviously didn't belong in those shows.



Title: Remember the Mr. T Cartoon?
Post by: Ash on December 17, 2002, 03:16:42 PM
I only remember two things from this one.

The cheesy opening theme music.  

And Mr. T swinging a crocodile around in the air by it's tail in the intro.

HAHA!!



Title: Re: Gahhh! They're all coming back to me now...
Post by: D on December 17, 2002, 05:15:36 PM
Andy Campbell wrote:
> Hated 7-Zark-7 too. It's been a long time since I've watched
> Battle of the Planets, but I think the segments with Zark and
> the dog were added into the episodes when they were edited
> and dubbed for North American TV. Not sure whether a
> character was needed to set up the chopped up stories so
> they'd be understood, or somebody in charge just felt a cute
> robot would go over with the kids.
Both, actually. Zark was suppose to cash in on r2d2.

On bad characters, what about Scooby-Doo's family? I never cared for Scooby-Dumb, or yabba-Doo. Were there any other family members? And what about the Rasins? You know, the ones who hocked ceral?
Or how about Mr. T? I hated that little jackass who alwasy tried to talk like Mr. T. Come to think of it, i disliked most that cast period.


Title: Re: Gahhh! They're all coming back to me now...
Post by: J.R. on December 17, 2002, 05:42:33 PM
I always hated Scooby's hillbilly cousin as much as most people hate Scrappy.

And now, looking back, almost every cartoon I watched as a kid was homo-erotic or at least had a grown man in his underwear hanging around with a young boy. Masters Of The Universe, Thundercats, etc. And that brings me to that stupid little lardo cat that tawked wike dis. Why did they throw annoying comic relief into those shows? All I wanted to see was stuff blowing up and senseless violence, like all healthy, well-adjusted boys.



Title: Ugh Spoungebob
Post by: Evan3 on December 18, 2002, 03:05:45 PM
I am sorry, but Spoungebob is the worst show I think I have ever seen. It is like flashing images and annoying voices, vaguely using a plot. If u like pot, watch the Teletubbies.
I used to like Rugrats, but not anymore. The best Nicktoon ever was Rocco's Modern Life, no matter what anyone says.
Warner Brothers usually gives us good stuff, even now and days (like Animaniacs and the X-Men cartoon).
However... I always hated Tom, he usually instigated Jerry. Sue the mouse Jerry!!!!
I really dislike Futurama, I thought it was awful. Also, I dislike Space Ghost and this show Ed, Edd, and Eddy. Why ant the artist draw straight.???? Lastly, I really didnt like the Ninja Turtles. They arent that interesting. The bad guys were a little too stupid...... and all the movies but the second one were awful. Does anyone remember the cartoons of Ace Ventura or the Mask? They SUC
Oh yeah, South Park is the closest thing to Simpsons as far as cartoon greatness, but even that show has gone downhill


Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: Fearless Freep on December 18, 2002, 03:50:22 PM
I always hated Tom, he usually instigated Jerry. Sue the mouse Jerry

I think you have that backwards; Tom is the cat, Jerry is the mouse.

Like I said, their is no real protagonist in "Tom and Jerry"  The two do what they do for their own reasons that often bring them into conflict with each other.  IT's not as cut-and-dried as the Sylvester and Tweety relationship..  Sometimes Tom is really out to get Jerry, other times Tom is just minding his own business and Jerry gets antagonistic.  A good example is the episode where Jerry is sleepwalking and keeps doing things to hurt Tom.  However, there are a few where Tom uses Jerry as a semi-servant, especially when trying to impress girls, where Tom is definately the 'bad guy' to Jerry's persecuted 'good guy'.



Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: raj on December 18, 2002, 04:37:23 PM
As far as Tom & Jerry, I'd much rather watch Itchy & Scratchy.  Short and full of gore and mayhem.  Maybe when the Simpsons retire, there'll be an Itchy & Scratchy show to replace it.


Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: Vermin Boy on December 18, 2002, 11:39:27 PM
I think a better example of this "give and take" relationship is Foghorn Leghorn and the dog. With Tom & Jerry, no matter who the antagonist is, Jerry usually wins. In a Foghorn cartoon, they were always both out to get each other, and both wound up getting their comeuppance pretty evenly. Same deal with Spy vs. Spy (except when the Grey Spy is involved).


Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: Evan3 on December 20, 2002, 03:09:14 AM
Ah yes, Spy vs. Spy is great. Did you ever see the grey spy (a ladY) she always got them both.

Thanks for correcting my mistake Raj. But in any case, it seems to me that Tom (the cat) only uses Jerry to further his own ends (such as getting a girl, or the adults want Tom to get rid of mice or he is out). Even if he does instigate, he always gets the worst end. In one episode, Jerry and some little diapered sidekick break into a king's house, steals food, and causes Tom to be guillotened. What does Jerry do? Laugh! That is sadistic. How many times has Jerry got Tom evicted. Many. How many times has Jerry been kicked out? Never! Jerry is a cruel bastard. Almost every cartoon character feels remorse (even Bugs at times) but never Jerry. Jerry is souless.


Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: Susan on December 20, 2002, 08:29:23 PM
<< hate the simpsons>>

JR Wrote: -------Why? Did something bad happen to you that takes all joy out of life? Do you shun all that is good and decent? :) -----

I guess i'm just pure evyil.
 
Then again while I hate to make such a gender specific comment, maybe the show really is a "guy thing". And this being said from a woman who loves guy movies. Yep, i'm evil

I also hate tom/jerry and roadrunner/coyote (mainly because their lives seemed quite pointless and frustrating if not repetative)

I also hated Fat Albert, tho I liked most of the other junkyard...dogs was it? you never see that one in rerun



Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: Sex kicks ass! on April 01, 2003, 03:43:08 PM
I hate that mother$*%^ing rat Jerry! He's so mean to poor Tom! I just hope one day Tom will eat that goddamn mouse.


Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: Chadzilla on April 01, 2003, 03:45:38 PM
Scrappy Doo, I refused to watch Scooby Doo when that shrill, chemistry destroying dog turd showed up.  Still hate it.



Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: Deej on April 01, 2003, 06:21:52 PM
Scrappy Doo is a given, and I'll go along with the "I hate Jerry" thing, although I also hate the friggin' cat. Pepe frikkin' LaPew....what the hell was the point of that? I can agree with the Frenchman as Skunk idea(this has nothing to do with the current political situation, it's much deeper than that). But, the damn thing wasn't funny, it was about a rodent trying to get laid, with disasterous results. I don't know about you, but that hits too close to home. Just too painful to talk about.

Aside from Goofy and Donald, none of the Disney Toons are worth warm p**s. Mickey's gay(and that's okay), Minnie is frigid, Pluto, okay he was cool. And I think they all suffered from obsessive/compulsive disorder...they're ALWAYS wearing gloves, the freaks.

Sylvester and Porky Pig...c'mon, frikkin' SPIT IT OUT ALREADY!! I'm not intolerant of those with speech disorders, we all have flaws and we all have problems, but DAMMIT PIG get the d@#$ out of you're mouth and sound off. Those two need to take the John Wayne Speech Therapy course as seen in The Cowboys.

You know how when a tv series runs out of ideas they bring in an adorable new character(Scrappy Doo, Cousin Oliver, The Olsen Demons)? Anyone remember The Great Gazoo, oh yeah, he sucked. Not only was he out of context, he was frikkin' unpleasent! And that wasn't enough for the Flintstones, nooooo they had to bring in The Scmoo!! What the hell was that about? What was it? A Ghost? Looked like a big honkin' wad of....wad!!! Then, they had the low-rent, knock-off Addams Family move in next door. I gotta go take a Xanex and lay down now.



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Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: Funk, E. on April 01, 2003, 06:25:09 PM
Whoever replaced Invader Zim! f**king Nickalodeon!


Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: hollywood bill on April 01, 2003, 07:51:46 PM
Definatly one to make you think, but i can think of a few off the top of my head:

-Fred- (scooby doo): that god damn scarf wearing pansy who never made a pass at daphanie during the whole show

-Scappy doo(scooby doo) : that little mongrel was the down fall of the series in my opinion. Every time he spouted off "Puppy Power" I wished Shaggy would have just kicked him right in the monsters mouth that he was barking at.  No offense dog lovers

-Eric the Caviler- (From the Dungeons and Dragons Cartoon)- Awesome series, but at a few Eric extreme ego mixed with his incredible whinning and cowardise made it a painful performance to watch(he was the one with the shield)

  "There he goes, one of God;s own prototypes. Some strange, high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, to rare to die."
       -Raoul Duke ( Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas)



Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: Ash on April 01, 2003, 10:46:46 PM
Wow!  Look at the date when I originally started this thread!  (12-12-02)

It's been resurrected from the ashes!!

Someone's been doing a little digging in this here phorum!!



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Title: Re: COURAGE THE COWARDLY DOG
Post by: kriegerg69 on April 02, 2003, 01:58:37 AM
Brother Ragnarok wrote:

> I don't watch too many toons these days.  I do go out of my
> way to watch Courage the Cowardly Dog, though.  I love that
> show.

AMEN to that, Brother! You aren't the only one....Here's my website devoted to Courage, the only one that's been visited, approved, and endorsed by Courage's creator John R. Dilworth:

 Courage The Cowardly Dog  (http://couragede.tripod.com/courhome.html)




Title: More stuff
Post by: D on April 02, 2003, 09:00:27 PM
How about Voltron: 3D? I hated that entire show, it just took a big p**s on my childhood memories.  And speaking of that, what about Transformers: Armada?
D


Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: murder by girl on April 03, 2003, 06:19:17 AM
I'd have to agree with u,Hanks dad is preety crap!Do you wanna know who i realy hated?The horse from rainbow bright!!!!!!!!! I also hate the little fluffy monsters with belts with magic pockets I ALWAYS WANTED A BELT LIKE THAT! Im so jealous


Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: murder by girl on April 03, 2003, 06:25:42 AM
I realy HATE tommy from the rugrats.Its allways about doing the WRIGHT thing!Stick it up your ASS tommy and when the hell is he going to GROW UP!!!!!!!! He hasnt aged in THE PAST 5 YAERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Snarf from Thundercats, that Unicorn from Dungeons and Dragons...
Post by: ad on April 03, 2003, 06:26:55 AM
Snarf from Thundercats, that Unicorn from Dungeons and Dragons...every disney character and Jackie Chan's little hyperactive cousin from Jackie Chan's adventures.


Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: Fearless Freep on April 03, 2003, 11:04:52 AM
Hard to remember what characters I don't like because if  a show has characters I don't like, I don't watch it.  There have been so many bad cartoons over the years, they all blur together.

What I'm watching these days that I like is "Samurai Jack", "Dexter's Lab", and "The Powerpuff Girls"



Title: Eric & Flash
Post by: Todd R. on April 04, 2003, 10:14:08 AM
As for Eric from DUNGEONS & DRAGONS: What do you expect? The guy was stuck with the "vocal talents" of Donny "Ralph Malph" Most.

As for the Cute Sidekick Syndrome: Even Flash Gordon wasn't immune. Remember the Filmation episodes with an annoying pink dragon named Gremlin?


Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: D on April 05, 2003, 01:31:12 AM
How about teh entire cast of Dumb & Dumber: the animated series? And what about Histeria!?
Later
D


Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: ErikJ on April 05, 2003, 10:50:55 AM
Histeria was great. I loved that show. The jokes flew so fast in that show you had to watch it a couple of times to catch them all.


Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: jmc on April 05, 2003, 02:05:24 PM
Scrappy Doo is of course the all-time winner.  

 I've never liked Futurama or Power Puff Girls--the former because I just never saw the show as funny, just a bunch of animation in-jokes...the latter because I just figured from the get-go that the show wasn't designed to appeal to me so I quit watching after the first couple of episodes.

Never liked Tom and Jerry either.

I do love all the old Warner Brothers cartoons, though.


Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: the feen on April 05, 2003, 02:45:50 PM
Inspector Gadget because he never did anything! It was always his niece who solved all crimes. All he had was a propeller in his hat, a scheister nose and a flasher's mac. Pervert.


Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: tuck on April 05, 2003, 02:52:45 PM
i can't stand that c**t from rugrats. the twins' mum. She's obviously a ragin' bull dyke struttin' around in those stupid f**kin sweat pants doin DIY n ****. I have no problem with lesbos but fat b***hes like that make me f**kin heave.

I bet her husband's sex life consists of being bent over the bed and havin his wife's 10" strap on shoved into his poor abused orifice while his bastard kids eat worms and dogs**t in the back yard.


Title: Easy tuck/the feen - please
Post by: Andrew on April 05, 2003, 03:09:22 PM
Really, you can convey the fact that you dislike the character in a better way.



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Title: Re: What Toon Characters Do You Despise??
Post by: Kev on April 05, 2003, 03:13:32 PM
wheresthecarrot wrote:

> The Simpsons is, and always will be, the best thing on T.V.
>
>

MST3K. Don't EVER fool yourself into thinking otherwise.

Cartoon Characters I hate.

Scooby Doo's Laff-A-Lympics: Now, I'm pretty sure there was a moral about how it's bad to cheat in every episode, but the Really Rottens just could NEVER catch a break. I specifically hate the Scooby Doobies. Sure, Crappy Doo wasn't with them and Honk Kong Fooey was, but I have two words that explain my hatred for the entire Scooby Doobies team (with the exception of maybe Hong Kong Fooey, number one superguy). SCOOBY DUM. God I hate that damn dog almost as much as I hate Crappy.

He-Man and the Masters of the Universe: Yes, I utterly loathe Dorko, but I almost...ALMOST hate every one of the MOTU hero characters with the useless gimmicks (Fisto and Cy-Clone anybody?) that would always appear in one episode to help out He-Man and then vanish without a trace. The minions of Skeletor were just as guilty of this (Stinkor? WTF?).

Transformers: Die, Seaspray, die.

GI-Joe: Pretty much all of Cobra-La.

Spongebob Squarepants: I hate all of it. I dispise all Nick Toons since Rocco got canned. They redeemed themselves for a while with Invader Zim, but of course they had to screw THAT up too.

Beavis and Butthead: They were funny in a "Damn those two are dumb" way, but it really lost some of its 'charm' when they ditched Beavis' pyromania to be PC Because a couple of dumbass parents sued them because their dumbass kids copied that dumbass show.

Tiny Toons: Elmyra. GOD I DISPISE YOU!!!! YOU RUINED PINKY AND THE BRAIN, YOU WHORE!

Animaniacs: Those stupid Hippos. DIE!

The Simpsons: Greatest animated show ever. But I'm getting sick of Lisa's constant whining and being so liberal. It's getting to the point where Michael Moore can look at her and go "Holy crap that's one left wing liberal".

King of the Hill; It's starting to grate on me lately. Yes, I totally dispise Cotton Hill. But I do still like it generally. However I do not like what a little pansy Bobby Hill is. Damn, kid just come out of the frickin' closet already. You're not fooling anyone. But I do have to disagree with one person's opinion of Hank Hill. The whole idea of Hank Hill is a redneck schmuck that's happy to settle with a lame, boring job, the stupidest woman on the planet for a wife and a swishy girly fat ugly idiot for a son.

Although I can't really decide whether Bobby's more gay or his best friend Joseph is more of a pervert.

But it is Dale Gribble that keeps me watching KOTH. All scenes featuring Dale are constantly the best parts of the show.


Title: Re: Easy tuck/the feen - please
Post by: tuck on April 05, 2003, 04:25:56 PM
sorry.

i got carried away man.

this is a great site by the way!