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Paul Anderson.I really really really f**king hate this guy.I'll give him credit for Event Horizon that movie was actually cool, but for christ sakes stop making movies about video games you have obviously never f**king played.
George Lucas.The first three Star Wars were awsome but the last two and probably the third just sucked.To god damn kiddy.Absolutley no likable charectors lame as f**k stories,and what the f**k were C3PO and R2D2 doing in there.GOD!
Steven Speilberg for E.T. f**king gay ass movie.It would have been better if ET had just eaten the kids.
Wes Craven for Scream.One of the great masters of horror makes one of the gayest pop culture bulls**t horror movies ive seen.

Steven Speilberg: Sure he made JAWS and SCHINDLERS LIST, but this man was responsible for terrible films like 1941 and  TWILIGHT ZONE: THE MOVIE. Plus he wasted one great actor: Toshiro Mafunie. Speilberg, hang your head in shame.

Michael Bay: BAD BOYS was all hype and no promise, so I can't see how this man's career got off the ground. That and THE ROCK, ARMAGEDDON, and PEAR HARBOR provide what is going to happen during his career.

Two words:

MICHAEL LEHMANN!!!!!!!

God how I hate that guy.

Ross Hagen.  He's not making movies anymore, obviously, but oh how he hurt us...

Brother R

I'm with you guys, I really hate Steven Spielberg.  Yeah, he produced the Goonies, but that was about the only good thing he's done.  I think he's a really overrated director.  I'd rather sit through an all day Albert Pyun crapfest than three hours of the usual Spielberg stuff.  I know I'll probably get flack for this, I just don't like the guy.  

Nick

Hey,Steven Spielberg is the man!He rules!


Joel Schumacher sucks!

Johnny Blister wrote:

> Hey,Steven Spielberg is the man! He rules!

Sorry, but any director who wastes the great Toshiro Mafunie in 1941, or tries to remake an old "Twilight Zone" episode in TWILIGHT ZONE: THE MOVIE, or screws up a great premise for MINORITY REPORT is just not that great of a director. To each is own, I guess.

Now Joel Schumacher: okay, I'll give you credit for that. He does suck.

IMHO,I think Steven Speilberg is truly one of the greatest directors ever.

Like I said earlier, to each is own. I personally think Herschell Gordon Lewis is the greatest director ever, right next to George Romero and Dario Argento. But like I said, to each is own.

I like Speilberg!

Not only has he made and produced great films but he gave us the almighty "Medal of Honor" video games!

i know,I like him too.

Speilberg is like any other director who is a big success, he has his ups and downs. on my black lis..


Paul W.S Anderson, you butt blasting son of a b***h I will get you.

Joel Schumacher, for being a dumb as a pile of s**t mixed with bill clinton and michael moore

Michael Moore, well I dont want to beat you hard, just slap you around some.

Michael Bay, for being the piece of s**t you are

Personally I'd like to stick a glass cathader up Spielbergs dick and take a meat tenderizer to it. Not seriously, but I dislike him as a film maker.

wow lots of hate for Speilberg.Now I don't hate all his films many I like,Saving Private Ryan,Minority Report,Close Enconters of the third kind(I know it was a slower than s**t movie but it was cooler than E.T.)

michael bay, f**k that guy

Anthony Hickox for ruining Waxwork and Hellraiser III
Joel Spewmacher for ruining the Batman franchise.

Dunners' politics are SO subtle.

you got something agaisnt other peoples opinions squishy? Or do you want me to spend a good 10 minutes typing up accurate facts and reasons I hate these sons of b***hes?

Mikhail Moorski aka Fat Bastard. On top of all else, he lies badly.

Hey,Michael Moore rules,you NRA son of a b***h!

McG sucks!

In the case of Speilberg, I will say that he made JAWS and SAVING PRIVATE RYAN, two of his best in his career. As for the Indiana Jones films, it's been a while so I really can't say much on those. But let me tell ya', whenever I catch 1941, MINORITY REPORT or TWILIGHT ZONE: THE MOVIE on TV once in a while and attempt to watch them, I cringe really badly.

As for E.T., I did have respect for Speilberg on this film, that is until he f**ked it up during it's re-issue run. To me, Speilberg is on a par of average. He's a director that is talked about the most, but most of his work-in my eyes-fails to live up to it's promise and is therefore not a great director in my book. Speilberg is too moral and too uptight for me to respect. I reserve that book for Herschell Gordon Lewis, George Romero, Dario Argento, Mario Bava, Lucio Fulci, Roger Corman, and Ridley Scott. These guys brought about more of a sense of entertainment and pulp imagination to their work; Speilberg is too methody and sometimes relies on manipulating the audience, which I believe is a wrong way to gain a viewing experience. But as I said earlier and I will say it again, to each is own and I will not stand in the way of it.

Still, I liked SAVING PRIVATE RYAN so keep that one on record.

Steven Spielberg IS the greatest director of all time.

Kevin Smith comes in a close second.

Spielberg is good with the technical stuff and effects.
but lately his plots have sucked many fat monkey balls.

Michael Bay needs to have a monkey on his shoulder so it can punch him in the face every time he looks like he's headed to a movie set.

and yes, Schumacher is a bad, bad boy.
i'd like to tie him up and spank him...with a rebar.

Joel Schumacher only quit snorting cocaine for"Batman Forever"and"Falling Down",and we´ve suffered the consequences ever since.

spikesangel wrote:

> Spielberg is good with the technical stuff and effects.
> but lately his plots have sucked many fat monkey balls.

Gotta' agree. Speilberg's intentions with his films today is basically all style and no substance. That and he needs to break out of his happy ending syndrome, it ruined MINORITY REPORT and ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. At least Romero or Argento knows how the real world works and the true power of an ending; Speilberg keeps wallowing around in the same rut with the same epilouge-happy ending. Something different Speilberg, please.

Oh and it was Speilberg who b***hed about Enzo G. Castallri's GREAT WHITE (1981) for "ripping-off" JAWS, which resulted both Speilberg and Universal to ban GREAT WHITE's showing here in the US of A during it's theatrical run. Thanks alot, Speilberg.

Hey,Spielberg rules!

Hey, I disagree! Oh well, you are entitled to your favorites just as I am to mine. Still, I though that was quite pathetic of him go nuts over an Italian film that was influenced by JAWS.

Believe me, Great White was no great threat to Jaws (which remains my undisputed favorite movie of all time) - Joe Alves and Joseph Sargent made far worse movies - Jaws 3-D and Jaws the Revenge than the cheap Italian rip-off.  The last movie of Spielberg's that I truly got excited about was Jurassic Park and that was strictly to see the dinosaurs in action, not because he was directing it.

Oh I agree Chadzilla, GREAT WHITE was no big threat to JAWS whatsoever. It was made in 1980, years after JAWS's release back in 1975. But apparently, Speilberg and Universal thought it was and sued U.S. distributor Edward Montaro. But their was a twist: after the court ruling found Montaro guilty, Montaro fled the country with millions after the two week release of GREAT WHITE. It is undetermined where Montaro is at now, however one distributor who was vactioning in Greece claimed he quickly saw Montaro sitting back drinking a small glass of Greek alchohol, smiling with delight. And Montaro never paid Speilberg or Universal the money owed. To this very day, Speilberg and Universal are STILL waiting for Montaro to pay up. I got news for these clowns: it aint gona' happen.

In all cases, the blame for GREAT WHITE not getting the proper release it deserved goes straight to Speilberg and Universal. What I'm amazed at as why didn't Speilberg sue Roger Corman for PIRANAH. After all, Speilberg called PIRANAH his favorite JAWS rip-off, despite PIRANAH not being a JAWS rip-off at all. I can safely say that not only is Speilberg a pompous ass, but he is quite full of it and contradicts himself with this case.  I would really like to hear Speilberg explain his contradiction as well.

Hell, GREAT WHITE was more fun and exciting than JAWS (I still like JAWS, though). Maybe we'll see it on DVD some day under it's original THE LAST SHARK title.

Make ever director that has made a sequal to "The Land Before Time" MWA HAAHAH HA HA!

-the first rule of fat club-

f**k off, you 3rd world faggot.

Anybody who isn't America sucks.

Start placing your bets as to how quickly this douche gets his ass booted off the board!  Find another board to flame, and take some grammar lessons before you do!  Ta!

Brother R

Chris K. wrote:

> Oh I agree Chadzilla, GREAT WHITE was no big threat to JAWS
> whatsoever. It was made in 1980, years after JAWS's release
> back in 1975. But apparently, Speilberg and Universal thought
> it was and sued U.S. distributor Edward Montaro. But their was
> a twist: after the court ruling found Montaro guilty, Montaro
> fled the country with millions after the two week release of
> GREAT WHITE. It is undetermined where Montaro is at now,
> however one distributor who was vactioning in Greece claimed he
> quickly saw Montaro sitting back drinking a small glass of
> Greek alchohol, smiling with delight. And Montaro never paid
> Speilberg or Universal the money owed. To this very day,
> Speilberg and Universal are STILL waiting for Montaro to pay
> up. I got news for these clowns: it aint gona' happen.
>

This is a false, but not uncommon, misunderstanding.  Great White had nothing whatsoever to do with the financial failure of Film Ventures International.  That was caused by the flopperoo of the Bo Hopkins/Wings Hauser starrer Mutant (aka Night Shadows) in 1984, a full four years after the fact.  Montoro didn't loose much with the Great White fiasco.  Universal sued for copyright infringement (saying the movie borrowed far too heavily from both Jaws 1 and 2, which, to be brutally honest, it did - then again, this is an Italian rip-off, so that is expected) and had made a deal with the Italian producers to not have the movie commercially distributed in America.  Montoro lied to the Italians, saying he had cleared up the legal hassles.  Universal sued only to have the unapproved distribution halted.  Which is what happened.  But Great White played in enough venues during its brief run to make a buck.  The Unknown Movies website has an interview with a veteran of Film Ventures where he shares a few details about the studio and its infamous power abuses.

> Hell, GREAT WHITE was more fun and exciting than JAWS

And this is your mind on drugs, any questions?  LOL!

> Maybe we'll see it on DVD some day under
> it's original THE LAST SHARK title.

Is Blue Underground reading this?  HELLO?  And a documentary on the movies legal troubles as well!  I'd also like to see Star Crash out on DVD too, Bill.  You reading this Bill?

Chadzilla wrote:

> Chris K. wrote:

> This is a false, but not uncommon, misunderstanding.  GREAT
> WHITE had nothing whatsoever to do with the financial
> failure of Film Ventures International.  That was caused by the
> flopperoo of the Bo Hopkins/Wings Hauser starrer MUTANT
> (aka NIGHT SHADOWS in 1984), a full four years after the
> fact.  Montoro didn't loose much with the GREAT WHITE
> fiasco.  Universal sued for copyright infringement (saying the
> movie borrowed far too heavily from both JAWS 1 and 2,
> which, to be brutally honest, it did - then again, this is an
> Italian rip-off, so that is expected) and had made a deal with
> the Italian producers to not have the movie commercially
> distributed in America.  Montoro lied to the Italians, saying
> he had cleared up the legal hassles.  Universal sued only to
> have the unapproved distribution halted.  Which is what
> happened.  But GREAT WHITE played in enough venues
> during its brief run to make a buck.  The Unknown Movies
> website has an interview with a veteran of Film Ventures where
> he shares a few details about the studio and its infamous power
> abuses.

Thanks for the clarification on the story. The story I have always heard was the one I mentioned earlier and is most often the one that is told for the downfall of Fim Ventures International. Even so, I felt that the similarities between JAWS and JAWS 2 in GREAT WHITE were very small, but it's been a while since I viewed my crummy bootleg of Castallri's shark flick so I might have to watch it again. But then, GREAT WHITE was sure as Hell better than JAWS 2 that's for sure.

As for the unapproved distribution that Speilberg and Universal sued for GREAT WHITE, I do remember at one point reading that both demanded some payment, but never got it and are still waiting. But now after what you have just told me, I won't confirm it as true or not. Place it in the rumor mill.

As for it being more fun and exciting than JAWS, hey I appreciate the underappreciated. I won't say it's superior to JAWS, but I will say it was more engaging and better paced. And yes, Bill Lustig are you listening? If not, how about John Sierabella's Shriek Show?

Another thought: Spielberg and Universal sued due to the "copyright infringment" of a film that they made. But if you think about it, as much as it is claimed that Speilberg came up with the whole concept it was Peter Benchley and his novel that created the concept. Looking at it this way, it would have been Benchley that should have sued, not Speilberg or Universal. In either case, I still felt it was quite ridiculous of Speilberg and Universal to make a fuss over a low budget Italian film. As I said earlier, they didn't make a fuss over PIRANAH.

No problem.  I thought Great White had sunk FVI as well.  From what I heard, the company was struggling and, rather than declare bankruptcy, Montoro just grabbed the assets he could and ran, leaving everybody else high and dry.

The litigation in regards to Great White stemmed from breaking a supposed legal agreement.  I'm sure Universal tried to sue for damages (i.e. a slice of the gross profits it felt intitled to), but was not awarded any.  Frankly I do not think a damage reward was deserved, evidently the court did as well, as none appears to have been given.  Peter Benchley seems a pretty decent, level headed (and very unstuck-up) fellow, I doubt he would have had much to do with this ruckus.

Jaws is my favorite movie of all time, so I'm biased.  As far as the shark sagas fall, I rate as follows

1. Jaws
2. Jaws 2 - a perfectly passable summer movie, my favorite of the sequels.
3. Great White - decent rip-off that has its moments, but a few dead parts.
4. Jaws 3-D - Richard Matheson wrote THIS?
5. Jaws the Revenge - Oh man, what a nightmare!

1. Jaws
2. Jaws 2 - a perfectly passable summer movie, my favorite of the sequels.
3. Great White - decent rip-off that has its moments, but a few dead parts.
4. Jaws 3-D - Richard Matheson wrote THIS?
5. Jaws the Revenge - Oh man, what a nightmare!

And where does Orca fall into this list, Chad? I know he's not a shark, but I definitely got a Jaws vibe from it.

Oh boy, probably somewhere between Jaws 3-D and Jaws the Revenge.  It's not as fun as Bruce the Mechanical Shark playing Revenge of the Creature, but it is not as mindnumbingly dumb as Jaws the Revenge, though it comes pretty dang close.

Piranha falls nicely between Jaws and Jaws 2.