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Title: Mr. Cushing's worst.
Post by: Steve. on June 22, 2001, 01:37:50 PM
The Blood Beast Terror (Brit. 1967). Peter Cushing said this was the worst movie he appeared in - he's not wrong. He plays a policeman investigating vampirish murders (the victims are drained of blood). The script and direction are as slow and ponderous as a snail on valium, and contain every cliche in the book (and some that aren't). The murderer turns out to be a rather refined Victorian lady who happens to be the daughter of a famous entomologist, but who, in actual fact is a giant death's-head moth disguised during daylight as the daughter of a famous entomologist. I suppose it must have seemed like a good idea on paper - but definitely not on screen. If you get the chance, see it - it's a definite badmovie - but you have to feel sorry for Peter Cushing as he tries to rise above the utter dross that surrounds him.


Title: Re: Mr. Cushing's worst.
Post by: Apostic on June 22, 2001, 03:14:25 PM
I see your Blood Beast and raise you (lower you?) The Uncanny (1977), an anthology feature about...evil cats.  In the central binding story, Cushing plays a poorly written writer who has not only uncovered these horrible incidents with cats, he's also convinced that cats are covertly in charge of humanity.  (Douglas Adams would later get big laughs with a similar concept....)

Movie with "evil, vicious cats" is problematic when its production crew uses obviously happy, contented cats.  (See also Strays.)

Coming soon to a B-Notes near you as a pointlessly seasonal tie-in with Cats and Dogs.

regards,

Apostic


Title: Re: Mr. Cushing's worst.
Post by: Flangepart on June 22, 2001, 03:15:36 PM
Hey, i think Dr Freex revieved this one. I'll give you the MOVIE was the worst...(maby)...HE was IN....but ya gotta admit, he always tried to give the Audience their moneys worth!


Title: Re: Mr. Cushing's worst.
Post by: Cullen on June 22, 2001, 05:39:38 PM
"Blood Beast" and "Uncanny" are right up there (though I kind of liked both of them), but I would have said that "House of Long Shadows" (which wastes some of the greatest horror actors of all time) and "Shock Wave" (attack of the killer Nazi Zombies) were worse.

Still, Cushing seemed to have more luck in the "bad movie" sweepstakes than either Vincent Price or Christopher Lee.


Title: Re: Mr. Cushing's worst.
Post by: Squishy on June 23, 2001, 05:02:04 AM
You guys forgetting "At The Earth's Core?"


Title: Re: Mr. Cushing's worst.
Post by: Cullen on June 23, 2001, 05:58:37 AM
Squishy wrote:
You guys forgetting "At The Earth's Core?"

Trying to, yeah.  

There is also "The Beast Must Die" and "Mad House" to concider as well.


Title: Re: Mr. Cushing's worst.
Post by: Steve. on June 23, 2001, 08:37:33 AM
All the other movies mentioned are probably all as bad as BBT, especially The Beast Must Die, but Mr. C. actually named BBT as THE worst. I think I'll call it a draw, Apostic - The Uncanny was equally dreadful, and I think Ray Milland would've cursed his agent for landing him that role. I am also trying (and almost succeeding) to forget At The Earth's Core. Peter Cushing never gave of anything other than his best.


Title: Re: Mr. Cushing's worst.
Post by: Apostic on June 23, 2001, 11:30:02 AM
We should also note that Cushing had low visibility roles in several movies that stank, too.  However, he tended to give losers like those some positive entertainment value.

Example?  Don't mind if I do.

The example of this I'd like to cite is a cameo in One More Time (1970).  Most of you would be too young to remember this, uh, entertainment extravaganza, so I'll describe the scene in question.  One of the main characters (Sammy Davis Jr.) finds a secret passage in a building.  In a hidden chamber, Peter Cushing looks up from a body on a slab and congenially says something like, "Hello, you're just in time."  And Christopher Lee, wearing a cape and bearing an ornate stemmed glass (he's drinking a red) says, "Yes.  Welcome to the party."  Go to reaction shot of main character -- who has run like hell....

Like I said: Cushing (plus, in this case, Lee) added positive entertainment value to a lot of awful movies.  The man was usually a delight to see in a movie.  So when a movie is so bad that even he sucks in it, you know you've got a killer.

regards,

Apostic


Title: Re: Mr. Cushing's worst.
Post by: BoyScoutKevin on June 23, 2001, 02:35:44 PM
Not exactly on the subject of "Mr. Cushing's Worst," but I have to come to the defense of "The House of Long Shadows." Story is not much. Desi Arnaz, Jr. agrees to write a book within a certain time and in a certain house. And white he is trying to write the book, John Carradine, Peter Cushing, Christopher Lee, and Vincent Price put in a visit. And where else can you see all four of those in the same film together? Also worth noting, Richard Todd--he of "The Story of Robin Hood and His Merrie Men"--has a short bit in the beginning as Desi's agent. And there is one line that always leaves me on the floor. When Price finds his sister--Shelia Keith, a terrible singer--garroted, he says: "Piano wire. He must have heard her singing." ROTFL. One creepy note about the film. I believe that the order the four horror stars died in the film, is the same order that they died in--or will die in--in real life. Enjoy


Title: Re: Mr. Cushing's WORST FILM IS...
Post by: Chris K. on June 23, 2001, 02:50:03 PM
Mr. Cushing's REALLY, REALLT WORST FILM EVER is the film STAR WARS (1977). Cushing has a small role and is not even recogonized in this film at all. Cushing was the ONLY GOOD ACTOR in that film and yet his role was wasted and too short.

THE BLOOD BEAST TERROR is definately not Mr. Cushing's worst, I would rather watch THE BLOOD BEAST TERROR and not watch STAR WARS just to see his talent go to waste.

Questions or comments?


Title: Re: Mr. Cushing's WORST FILM IS...
Post by: Steve. on June 23, 2001, 03:15:23 PM
Hurrah! - I thought I was the only Star Wars hater around. Like I said Chris, BBT was Mr. Cushing's own nomination for the worst movie he appeared in. I would also rather watch that than the dreaded SW.


Title: Spoilers on House Of Long Shadow
Post by: Cullen on June 23, 2001, 05:23:39 PM
"I believe that the order the four horror stars died in the film, is the same order that they died in--or will die in--in real life." - BoyScoutKevin

Except they don't die, do they?  :-) Not only do all of the "victims" in the film turn out to be actors trying to keep Desi from winning his bet, but the whole thing turns out to be the story he's writing!  Making the whole movie meaningless, as far as I was concerned.

Oh well.  At least it wasn't "Bloodbath at the House of Death." :-)


Title: Re: Spoilers on House Of Long Shadow
Post by: peter johnson on June 23, 2001, 10:04:44 PM
God in Heaven, someone is really trying to make House of Long Shadows out to be something of any significance . . .
Well, okay, I will concede that this is the only film that got them all together, but what Idiot's Direction had Mr. Cushing speaking in that dreadful mush-mouthed accent?  I mean, those of us who've known the man for a bit know that he speaks the King's English better than any one of us -- so what is the Director's Choice?  To give him a lisp and a mushy form of speaking totally alien to his presence in countless films before, and this is the reason you would wish to see Herr Cushing in the first place -- see his perfect Holmes characterization in Hammer's "Hound of the Baskervilles".
Long Shadows was, for me, one of the deepest disappointments of my childhood, given that I loved (love) everyone involved.  It was and is a hideous monstrosity, much like the oft-mentioned disco-anime version of "Citizen Kane".
So, to be continually combative here, I would say that I acutally LIKED "Shock Wave", given its actual nod to folk-legends about the SS.  Plus the fact that you got to see Peter's greasy bangs flopping about on his forehead as the zombie Nazi reached up from beneath the house to choke him . . .
BoyscoutKevin:  I mean none of this against YOU in any sense of the word.  I'm glad you appreciated the fact that all of these grand eminance grise's were together in one film.  Just that, sometimes, tis better remembered in seperate places the tropes and tricks what gave  strength our Graces . . ..


Title: Re: Spoilers on House Of Long Shadow
Post by: Steve. on June 24, 2001, 11:28:05 AM
Cullen - I thought I'd exorcised the memory of Bloodbath At The House Of Death, please warn the US population of the hell that awaits them if they are tempted to see this movie. As for HOLS, the less said the better - so I won't re-open old wounds.


Title: Re: Spoilers on House Of Long Shadow
Post by: Cullen on June 24, 2001, 03:47:12 PM
Steve. wrote:  I thought I'd exorcised the memory of Bloodbath At The House Of Death, please warn the US population of the hell that awaits them if they are tempted to see this movie.

Sorry about that, Steve.  :-)  

I think what little you have said on the matter is far better a warning than I could ever give.   All I'm going to add to that is that "BatHoD" is on of the worst horror comedies ever made.  The only time I laughed through the entire film was when Vincent Price swears.  It really wasn't worth the rental.


Title: Re: Spoilers on House Of Long Shadow
Post by: Steve. on June 24, 2001, 04:08:43 PM
Cullen - thanx for the sympathy - it's just that when THOSE TWO movies are mentioned, I break into a light sweat and begin trembling. I can rest easy now that I have done my duty to humanity by warning of the horrors out there.


Title: Re: Spoilers on House Of Long Shadow
Post by: BoyScoutKevin on June 24, 2001, 07:38:57 PM
Creaky, I know. But, all the stuff mentioned are plot twists. And, frankly, the more twisted the plot, the better I like it. Being a natural contrarian, I learned along time ago, not to take disagreement personally. Thus, feel free to disagree with anything I say, as disagreement is what makes this board so great. But, to prove I am not a total contrarian, I agree that "Bloodbath at the House of Death" is a mess. But, if someone came up to me and asked me whether they should see it or not, my answer would be: "Yes. Then make up your own mind about it." For some of my most enjoyable moments have been watching something that was condemned as being one of the worst excressences of all time. And, on the other hand, some of my least enjoyable moments have been watching something that was praised as being one of the best films of the year. "Happiness" anyone. Enjoy


Title: Re: Spoilers on House Of Long Shadow
Post by: Steve. on June 25, 2001, 01:32:59 PM
BSK - I agree about disagreement, but disagree about agreement. The best thing about this board is you can give honest, subjective views about movies you have seen. It's up to the individual if they then watch the movie in question or not. The fact is most people will watch the movie they asked about anyway, whether the view given is SKULL or 5-SLIMES. As for "Happiness" - no thanks.


Title: Re: My two cents, worth the same.
Post by: Chadzilla on June 27, 2001, 04:22:06 PM
Cushing did this movie in Greece with Donald Pleasence called, I believe, Land of the Minotaur which is the slowest, more boring wretched excuse for a movie it has ever been my displeasure to try and watch.

Pete (House of Whipcord, Frightmare, etc.) Walker directed House of Long Shadows and it was a real labor of love for him.  The box office failure for the film so proved so disgusting and insulting to him that he turned his back on film and, instead, become a somewhat successful real estate agent across the pond, or so I have heard.

I am no great hater of Star Wars (I'm more of a "I am incapable of caring less about the whole thing" kind of guy), but I always felt that Cushing made a superior villian to Darth Vader and would have loved to see him in a larger part (The Big Dude in the Cloak perhaps?).


Title: Re: My two cents, worth the same.
Post by: Squishy on June 28, 2001, 04:08:23 AM
EW!

Aw, God, I saw "Land of the Minotaur." I hardly remember a thing about it, except that it was insanely boring and a lot of cloaked mannequins get shot/run over at one point. And there's a cheap scare involving a soccer ball hitting a window. The poster art features a giant actual minotaur bringing its wrath down upon some helpless victims, but the movie itself is about devil worshippers that sacrifice dimbulbs to a statue. I can't remember any of the actors--at all.

How good a movie be when all you remember is the movie's highlight, which is the "soccer ball" scene?
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