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Title: "The Books vs. The Movies" Who would win?
Post by: Dave: Blackeye15 on May 28, 2003, 02:05:46 PM
You know how the book is better? I've come up with a quick list of movies that were adapted from books.

Starship Trooper (book( vs. Starship Troopers (the movie): No contest here The book is better than the movie for sure, I mean the director was an idiot! The book was about military life in the future, while the movie is about a bunch of pretty Caucasian people stupitly killing bugs with bad tactis.

Jurassic Park (book) vs Jurassic Park (movie) a lot of people hate the book for somereason. I mean I like the movie a lot even though it has pretty cardboard characters it's still a fun movie. But I like the book because it's gory and kinda interesting. I kinda think of it as a b-movie in book. Two for the books.

Day of the Triffheads vs Day of the Triffheads: I dunno I saw the movie when I was younder and liked it but I haven't seen the movie in a long while. But I read part of the book and thought it was interesting. Even though I like how the Triffheads were created, but I if I remember correctly I liked the movie a littie more.

Score: books:2 movie:1
Anyother books versues movies you want to say? (I only wanted to do the first three that came off the top of my head.)

-the first rule of fat club-


Title: Re: "The Books vs. The Movies" Who would win?
Post by: Rob Phillips on May 28, 2003, 02:13:46 PM
Dune the Lynch movie vs Dune the Book = Even Tie, they changed the plot but stayed true to characters

Dune the really suckie miniseries vs Dune the book = Book wins hands down


Results:
The Book wins

Lynch Movie               +/- 0
Miniseries                        -1
Bonus Point to Book    +1 (mini series was soooooo bad extra point to book)


Rob


Title: Re: "The Books vs. The Movies" Who would win?
Post by: raj on May 28, 2003, 02:37:27 PM
A Clockwork Orange The Book v. A  Clockwork Orange The Movie
Tie.  An excellent look at the modern society's desire to "treat the poor criminals as though they are merely suffering a disease".  meanwhile, the protagonist is nothing more than a scumbag.

The movie captures the feeling of the book, and stays true to the ideal of free will.


Title: Re: "The Books vs. The Movies" Who would win?
Post by: The Burgomaster on May 28, 2003, 03:43:42 PM
THE GODFATHER - The movie was better. The book was a great story with great character development, but the writing wasn't top-notch. Many sentences were very awkwardly written.

LORD OF THE FLIES - The book was FAR better than either of the 2 movie versions that I have seen.

THE HUNCHBACK OF NOTRE DAME - The book was better. But the Charles Laughton version of the movie was pretty damned close.

THE EXORCIST - Damned good book. Damned good movie. The book wins by a nose.

As for DUNE, I never read the book, but David Lynch's movie is possibly the worst mainstream film I have ever seen.



Title: Re: "The Books vs. The Movies" Who would win?
Post by: Scott0 on May 28, 2003, 04:31:54 PM
They made a movie after the book "Slugs." Guess what movie it was. No really, guess what it was. Yeah, the movie Slugs was based off the book. Hehe. I haven't read the book, but knowing what the content of it is, I can't imagine it being leaps and bounds better than the movie. Even tie on general principle.

Bicentennial Man: Isaac Asimov's short story compared to Robin Williams in a shiny robot outfit. No question Asimov's short story kicks the pants off of the movie. Go read the short story. It'll only take about 45 minutes, but it is so well worth it. Book 1 -- Movie 0

Fahrenheit.451: Ray Bradbury's novel about television taking over the lives of people at home, and those few who are willing to risk everything to read the last precious copies of books not yet burned. Powerful book. Akward movie. Any attempt at making a movie out of a Bradbury novel most often leads to failure. His stories are too unique to be recreated. Book 2 --- Movie 0

2001: A Space Odyssey: Amazing book. Amazing movie...... that is even better after you read the book. Dang, books are kicking butt. Books 3 --- Movies 0

Fight Club: I would normally give this an even tie since both are done so amazingly well, but I saw the movie before I read the book, and the movie impacted me so much, all the book could do was reinforce what had already been presented in the movie. Score one for movies. Book 3 --- Movie 1

Psycho: Hitchcock anonymously bought the rights to this relatively unknown novel before making his movie so the endings would remain a complete secret until it was seen on screen. Hats off to Mr. Hitchcock for being so dedicated to yet another great movie. Read the book in its revised form, so I don't know what the original was like, but it couldn't have been as good as the movie. Score another for movies. Book 3 --- Movie 2

Bladerunner - Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?: Auggh! Don't make me choose!! Dead even tie. Two beautiful works of art. Simply stunning.

That's a good start.. I'll check back in a while with more when they come to me.

Scottie



Title: Re: A CLOCKWORK ORANGE: THE BOOK
Post by: Feathertop on May 28, 2003, 04:35:51 PM
I agree with your take on the story of A CLOCKWORK ORANGE but I was wondering if you've ever read the notorious "lost" final chapter that was missing from U.S. copies of the book until the 1980's. If you've never read it, it is HORRIBLE! Anthony Burgess COMPLETELY wimps out and simply allows scumbag Alex to "go straight" on his own. Since he 's getting older and therefore "maturing"  he simply grows disillusioned with his hell-raising existence and decides to embrace a more stable life. This happens after an encounter with the fourth member of his gang (I can't recall which one he was by name)who, if you'll recall, did NOT become a corrupt cop like the two other "Droogs" and was never mentioned again in the story but plays this central role in the "lost" chapter.
This fourth member has gone straight and gotten married and seeing his friend's wholesome new life troubles Alex to the point where he reevaluates his own life.  
We are just supposed to FORGET everything Alex has ever done and just write his excesses off as just happening "because he was YOUNG!!!"
Sorry, that might cut it if all Alex ever did was spraypaint a few walls or steal a few hubcaps but this character was a violent thug and rapist, etc, so, sorry Mr. Burgess, I know it's YOUR novel, but this ending is ENTIRELY inappropriate.
(Sadly, Burgess shrugged off the American distaste for this "missing" chapter by attributing it to our "more cynical" culture. I don't think he gets it! )


Title: Lord of the Rings
Post by: raj on May 28, 2003, 04:36:41 PM
Ok, I'll start this subthread.
IMO, the movies are great, Peter Jackson nailed the scenery and all, but I have to give a slight edge to the books; based mostly on being able to use my own imagination as to what Frodo, et al., look like.  Plus, it is easier to carry a book around than a dvd player & tv.


Title: Re: Lord of the Rings
Post by: Sam on May 28, 2003, 07:33:10 PM
American Psycho book vs. American Psycho movie- Book easily wins over the movie.

Red Dragon book vs. Red Dragon movie vs. Manhunter- Another easy victory for the books.

To Kill a Mockingbird book vs. To Kill a Mockingbird movie- Good movie but, too much was changed and it just didn't have the same feel to it. Book wins again

Books 3 Movies 0


Title: Re: "The Books vs. The Movies" Who would win?
Post by: Scott on May 28, 2003, 07:38:35 PM
I was dissappointed when I seen STARSHIP TROOPERS the first time, because I was expecting a very good gun-ho Sci-Fi film. I had to watch it a second time to appreciate the film for what it was.



Title: Re: H.P. Lovecraft
Post by: Andrew on May 28, 2003, 07:47:48 PM
Lovecraft's works usually do not do well as movies.  I think it is on account of the stories relying so much on the reader's imagination.

Few of Stephen King's works do good either.  My favorite out of his stuff is probably "Maximum Overdrive."  The short story is so-so, but the movie goes all out into a world with machines gone wild.



Title: Re: "The Books vs. The Movies" Who would win?
Post by: Fearless Freep on May 28, 2003, 07:56:25 PM
I had to watch it a second time to appreciate the film for what it was.

I *really* bad gun-ho Sci-Fi film



Title: Re: H.P. Lovecraft
Post by: systemcr4sh on May 28, 2003, 09:39:42 PM
Re-Animator is the only H.P Lovevraft adaptation that I can remember liking. It was a series of short stories originally was it not? I think the awful "UNNAMABLE" movie is based on H.P too. Some others that I heard were bad too.



Title: Re: A CLOCKWORK ORANGE: THE BOOK
Post by: Dave: Blackeye15 on May 29, 2003, 01:47:37 PM
*GASP*! I never knew "A Clockwork Orange" was a book!

-the first rule of fat club-


Title: Re: Lord of the Rings
Post by: Dave: Blackeye15 on May 29, 2003, 01:51:41 PM
I agree the movies are well done and have the idea of Middle Earth really nice, I enjoy the action parts...but I have more respect for the book because it really talked about the history of Middle Earth and the movie failed kinda.

-the first rule of fat club-


Title: Re: A CLOCKWORK ORANGE: THE BOOK
Post by: raj on May 29, 2003, 02:14:18 PM
Wow, I didn't know that there was a "missing chapter."  It does sound horrible, sort of like the ending of Crime and Punishment (ooh, another instance where the book completely blows away the movie).

Glad I didn't read it, the way it is has a "real" quality to it, which is why some people wind up in jail for life.
And yeah, it is hard to forget that Alex is a rapist & murderer.


Title: Re: A CLOCKWORK ORANGE: THE BOOK
Post by: raj on May 29, 2003, 02:15:21 PM
An excellent book, I do recommend it (just don't get a copy with the "everything turns out ok" ending)


Title: Re: A CLOCKWORK ORANGE: THE BOOK
Post by: Perk on May 29, 2003, 02:49:35 PM
We had to read the book in class this quarter and my tescher pretty much stated that the ending was also a cop out.  I didn't like the fact that George doesn't die in the movie though.   O well Billy as a cop mightn't have been so good anyway.



Title: Re: "The Books vs. The Movies" Who would win?
Post by: spikesangel on May 30, 2003, 03:10:54 AM
Starship Troopers the book was definitely better.
usually the book is always better.

did i ever mention my hatred for the movie Mimic?
oh how they ruined THAT short story.



Title: Re: "The Books vs. The Movies" Who would win?
Post by: Feathertop on May 30, 2003, 12:08:12 PM
I think TO LIVE AND DIE IN L.A. is a rare example of a movie being BETTER than the book it's based on.
I'm going to point out that the Emperor has no clothes and also say that the book THE THREE MUSKETEERS is pretty dull and that ANY movie version of it has been an improvement on the tedious source material.
On the other hand, I think the original SCARLET PIMPERNEL novel was better than any of the films.


Title: Re: Lord of the Rings
Post by: Evan3 on May 30, 2003, 12:19:59 PM
raj wrote:

 Plus, it is easier to carry a book
> around than a dvd player & tv.


Not anymore, they now have portable DVD players with its own screen that are about the size of a Michener novel. DVDs 1, books 0



Title: Ah ha: the Bible
Post by: Evan3 on May 30, 2003, 12:27:42 PM
Let me say, for the longest time I felt that the bible was boring and then I sat down and read it, (by bible, I mean old testament being Jewish and all). There are so many cool things that happen in the bible that no movie compares to it. I think the closest and best adaptation of the Torah so far is Spielburg's animated foray, the Prince Of Egypt.

Anyways, here are others:
Rosemary's Baby - Man the book was so intense, I couldnt put it down. The movie did a good job, but since the clothes and hair styles are so campy, I had to give it to the book. Plus, it blows Astronaut's wife way out of the water/
Book - 2   movie - 0

I also like The Omega Man vs. I Am Legend, or whatever it was called and yes I read them both." While much of the story is changed, I must say the movie is better, more entertaining, and not as predictable as the book.

Book - 2,   movie - 1

Finally is Conrad's Heart Of Darkness. I have never seen Apocalypse Now and have no interest in seeing it any time soon, the book was one of the WORST things I have ever read, with no punctuation or fun characters, and so I cant believe the movie could be worse.

Book- 2, movie - 2.

So, there you have it folks, an even tie.



Title: Re: Lord of the Rings
Post by: raj on May 30, 2003, 01:28:50 PM
Yeah, but the screens are too small.


Title: Re: "The Books vs. The Movies" Who would win?
Post by: SkullNinja on May 30, 2003, 02:45:01 PM
Howling the book vs Howling the movie, movie wins hands down, just because it has a sense of humor. Little more in common than a few of the character names. Howling II and Howling III bear nothing in common with the books of those names.

Last Man on Earth vs Last Man on Earth (Vincent Price) vs Omega Man - Book takes it. The ending has more guts than either of the movies. Be interesting to see it Ahnuld manages to get his version off the ground.