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Title: If you could make a movie....
Post by: wickednick on August 21, 2003, 04:45:16 AM
If I could make a movie it would be about a great war between man and machine.Now I know that this is kind of cliche but I would take a diffrent direction it in a diffrent direction than past movies.
In the future a great war consumes man kind, as the body count rises man turns to robots to fight there battles.As the machine armys become more advanced and the war becoming more distant from there human creators, the human death toll drops and the machine armys find them selves equaly matched and at a stale mate.The two machine armys, following there programing, search for a way to end the war and defeat there enemys.Eventually a dicision is made secretly among the machines that the only way to end it is to wipe out there creators, man.They reason that this war is a war not against machines but against the ones who had begun it.
The war between man and machine is brutal and devestating, man is forced to leave there former home and head to find a new one. It is here that the story would begin.Man has colonized mars and it is last strong hold against the machines, but the machines are closing in apon them and are determined to wipe them out.The human scientists are trying to find a way to escape the machines, they know that militarly they can not defeat them so they decide they must leave there solar system completely if they are to survive.
They are to escape through a massive jump gate to a solar system far away.The machines are not at all about to let them leave and when they discover the humans plans to escape they send there entire force to destroy the jump gate and wipe out man.
It would be a very brutal story, were any one could die, and mans fate would be uncertin.The end would awsome with a intersting twist that could make for possible sequals.
Ok so that one of my ideas for a movie.I like the idea, its diffrent than what you would usually see in a movie of this type.Share your ideas Id like to hear them.



Title: Re: If you could make a movie....
Post by: JohnL on August 21, 2003, 04:51:19 AM
I hate to tell you this, but that idea was already used for an episode of Star Trek Voyager. Actually, the crew encountered the robots long after they've killed off their creators and each side is looking for a way to gain the upper hand over the other.


Title: Re: If you could make a movie....
Post by: dean on August 21, 2003, 09:21:19 AM

a similar sort of storylines have also been in many games: ie man colonizes mars as a last post type thing, and jump gate stuff has been used alot as well.

the only real twist is that humans don't seem to win, yet that isn't too original either
but still, i'd see it :P

after all, i saw wing commander at cinemas and me and my friend were the only ones there! :P

sign me up!


Title: Re: If you could make a movie....
Post by: Drezzy on August 21, 2003, 12:01:58 PM
I got an idea...

An entire team formed to dispatch zombies after a worldwide plague has created the living dead. Think GHOSTBUSTERS with zombies, more profanity, nudity, extreme violence, and military-style groups worldwide.



Title: Re: If you could make a movie....
Post by: Tranquil Featherman on August 21, 2003, 01:34:20 PM
I would LOVE to make a movie. But I don't think I should tell you guys what it would be about. I might get banned again.

T



Title: Re: If you could make a movie....
Post by: Dave:Blackeye15 on August 22, 2003, 01:55:34 PM
The movie sound cool if you ask me, if it's done right it might at least get a cult following, sound cool.

-the first rule of fat club-


Title: Re: If you could make a movie....
Post by: wuggles451 on August 22, 2003, 05:08:14 PM
If i could make a movie it would be an adaptation of Chuck Palaniuk's Choke. It would be the first Drama/dark comedy/pornographic film. It wouldn't be just a stupid porno but a plot driven movie with some pornographic scenes it would create a whole new genre.



Post Edited (08-22-03 20:15)


Title: Re: If you could make a movie....
Post by: Shecky on August 23, 2003, 06:11:48 AM
wuggles451 wrote:

> If i could make a movie it would be an adaptation of Chuck
> Palaniuk's Choke. It would be the first Drama/dark
> comedy/pornographic film. It wouldn't be just a stupid porno
> but a plot driven movie with some pornographic scenes it would
> create a whole new genre.
>

>
> Post Edited (08-22-03 20:15)

Isn't that what the hated MPAA created "NC-17" for, specifically, movies like what you describe?



Title: Re: If you could make a movie....
Post by: NEC on August 23, 2003, 02:58:48 PM
Shrekster - Isn't that what the hated MPAA created "NC-17" for, specifically, movies like what you describe?

You can also just NOT submit it to the MPAA, and get an NR.



Title: Re: If you could make a movie....
Post by: gammaray117 on August 23, 2003, 05:18:30 PM
Terrorists demand $50 billion dollars not to burn all of San Fransisco to the ground. No one heeds them, and the outskirts catch fire one night. The fire burns in, towards the heart of the city. The objective is twofold: extingush the fire and catch the terrorists. Our main characters are a firefighter, a reporter, and an Army colonel.

This one would have ample destruction, great stunts, and incredible action sequences( including a fistfight in a speeding motorboat, a car chase through a vertible inferno, and the climatic massed battle aboard a cruise ship.)

Anyone like this one?



Title: Re: If you could make a movie....
Post by: wuggles451 on August 23, 2003, 06:23:02 PM
I didnt relise NC-17 was allowed to get as "hardcore" a XXX. It would probally be best for a movie like that not to even be submitted to the MPAA anyway. If you have every read the source material you'd know how graphic a film would be.



Title: Re: If you could make a movie....
Post by: JohnL on August 24, 2003, 01:20:08 AM
>Terrorists demand $50 billion dollars not to burn all of San Fransisco to the
>ground. No one heeds them, and the outskirts catch fire one night. The fire burns
>in, towards the heart of the city.

The problem is that a city almost certainly wouldn't burn out of control like a forest fire. While neighboring buildings sometimes catch fire, it would have a hard time crossing streets, parking lots etc.

>I didnt relise NC-17 was allowed to get as "hardcore" a XXX.

The original adult rating was X, which was given to any movie deemed too strong for an R. The MPAA didn't copyright the X though, so porno makers started using it on their films, as well as calling them XXX. Because of this, X-rated came to mean pretty much the same as "porn" in most people's minds and no mainstream film would take the chance of having their movie get an X. The movie industry wanted a new, adults-only rating, so the MPAA created NC-17. Unfortunately, since it was stated that NC-17 was the same as the ORIGINAL X, what most people heard was "NC-17 is the same as X", and so many people now think "NC-17 = porn", which is why studios still avoid NC-17, many theaters won't play NC-17 movies, many newspapers won't advertise them, etc.


Title: Re: If you could make a movie....
Post by: wuggles451 on August 24, 2003, 11:12:17 AM
i see JohnL thanks for the quick history lesson. All these guide lines make things confusing.



Title: Re: If you could make a movie....
Post by: fritz21 on August 24, 2003, 10:32:34 PM
Give gammaray117 a rest! Haven't you heard of a)gas lines, b) explosions, and c) dramatic licence! I, personally, love this idea. A fight to the death in a burning high-rise with fire-fighting implements would great, and I love people running around on fire. I'd see it!


Title: Re: If you could make a movie....
Post by: Drezzy Mac on August 25, 2003, 12:55:54 AM
Could always just use strategically planted bombs, too...

C'mon, no love for my idea?


Title: Re: If you could make a movie....
Post by: gammaray117 on August 25, 2003, 02:59:14 PM
Yeah, I forgot to mention the use of strategically planted thermite bombs to start the fires in the first place. But instead of pointing out flaws, could you people just TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????


Title: Re: If you could make a movie....
Post by: dean on August 26, 2003, 08:16:07 AM

gammaray:

i like the idea of nature being a threat.  its something which we can't control. [we recently had some pretty bad forest fires in our capital city so it would touch upon some feelings there] with it being ultimately caused by man, i like that too: it exploits a major weakness in the world: what if someone could use nature against us?.  it could pave the way for some pretty cool messages

just as long as it has nothing to do with 'terrorists':  i'm sick of all that crap, someone, somewhere has to come up with an original story with a 'bad guy/s' with an actual cool agenda.

sorry, i am just sick of terrorists being played as a bunch of arab extremeists with AK-47s and all that stuff.  its always a terrorist now, even if the agenda isn't a political/religious type one [which is what i usually class as a terrorist] it just smacks of repetitiveness [sorry gamma]

what would be cool though, is if the culprits frame a bunch of 'terrorists' so when the 'good guys' go looking for the original culprits, they are caught out by the fact that they already assume terrorism is the case, and are blinded by some prejudices and arrogance and whatnot.  you could then add a bit of politics into the conflict, whilst combining the hardcore action that you mentioned.

so over all i think it's a pretty sweet idea, needs a little tweaking, but then you only gave as a basic overview, so maybe you were planning alot more cool stuff that i don't know about.

:D


Title: Re: If you could make a movie....
Post by: gammaray117 on August 26, 2003, 02:27:34 PM
I used "terrorists" as a loose term for a group similar to SPECTRE, with no agenda other than making a substansial profit. I never intended them to be "Arab extremists with AK-47's", just a collection of hardened criminals from all over the world. I like the idea of framing a known terrorist group, and think it would be nice to have one of their leaders (who is in town, making him a perfect scapegoat) declare a temporary truce with our heroes. Good thinking, Dean. And I like Fritz's idea, be a great spectacle for when they try to capture this framed terrorist.(Who is trying to skip town, and sics his men on our protanganists as his hotel catches fire, blending nicely into that car chase I mentioned.)

Anyone else have a beef?



Title: Re: If you could make a movie....
Post by: Paul Hotbranch on August 26, 2003, 08:16:20 PM
You just drescribed the plot of the Terminator movies.


Title: Re: If you could make a movie....
Post by: gammaray117 on August 26, 2003, 10:25:24 PM
Watching "Seinfeld", I had a brilliant idea for another action sequence that I want a second opinion on.(No offence, but prefably Dean or Fritz-I can identify with these people.) The intrepid heroes(sooner or later I need some names here, another matter of suggestion), immediatly following the cruise ship battle, see the leader of the organization (name there, too) escaping in a helicopter. They pursue him in another helicopter, in a chase that becomes a violent, slam-bang, all-stops-pulled-out climatic ariel shootout with Uzis, grenades, flamethrowers and rocket launchers over the Golden Gate bridge. At night. Tell me you wouldn't pay $7.50 just to see that!

I've been kicking around some titles here.  Either say which one is best or put one down. Thanks.

INFERNO
HELLSTORM
HELLFIRE

"You can't fight in here, this is the War Room!"-"Dr. Strangelove"


Title: Re: If you could make a movie....
Post by: fleabag on August 27, 2003, 12:22:26 PM
u should work in a fight on a fire engine. the top of stuff is overdone, so maybe the hood or side. that'd be awesome in the fire movie


Title: Re: If you could make a movie....
Post by: wickednick on August 27, 2003, 02:28:00 PM
Fight on top of a fire engine has already been done in Con Air and in one of the James Bond movies.



Title: Re: If you could make a movie....
Post by: dean on August 28, 2003, 09:49:53 AM

wow someone actually values my opinion?!
the day someone actually listens to my ideas, and puts them into practice, is the day that hitchcock and orson welles roll over in their graves! :P

if you're looking for a big-bang helicopter fight type thing, then the name Hellfire ain't so bad [since they have hell fire missiles]  but hellstorm/firestorm isn't so bad either.

sounds like the climactic battle scene would be a nightmare to figure out [at night no less]  are these uzis and grenades etc [btw love the flamethrowers, you have fire everywhere and it keeps coming!! :P ]  from the copters or ppl on the bridge?  if not on the bridge then i'm not sure how it'd work out properly [it wouldn't be the greatest of action scenes with people fighting in helicopters, unless one group was on the ground]

adding to the whole bridge idea: it would be a last haven type thing: here you have a seemingly safe place: above water etc.  but in all the destruction it could be destroyed.
however i like the idea of the city being surrounded by fire, so maybe an inland city more than a port/major river based one.  its more claustrophobic that way.

but keep it up gammaray, it seems as though you want this to be non stop action, and we don't see enough movies that are jsut full on for the entire movie.

on a similar note, novels by Matthew Rielly are pretty much non-stop action, and i think many would make great movies if done right.  anyone read his works?  if not then do, fantastic read.

[oh yeah, gammaray, just make sure the firemen have macho names: noone likes a firefighter named clarence :P ]


Title: Re: If you could make a movie....
Post by: fleabag on August 28, 2003, 12:53:57 PM
i said the side of a fire engine, not the top


Title: Re: If you could make a movie....
Post by: gammaray117 on August 28, 2003, 01:23:35 PM
I intended for both to be in helicopters, but I like the idea of people on the bridge. The 'copter could be hovering around street level, I suppose. As for armaments, the bad guys have a guy with an Uzi and a guy with a shotgun, with an orange crate of grenades between them. Our four main characters are in an unarmed Bell firing with pistols and the Army colonel has a flamethrower.

As for names, here goes nothing.
Fireman: Gregory King
Colonel: Arthur Richmond
Reporter: Sarah Donahue
Known Terrorist: Seamus O' Bannon
Head Bad Guy:Simon Maltez
Henchman: (Not overly strong or a martial artist, just a boxer and marksman) Vincent

As usual, I want Fritz's and Dean's input most of all. I intend to write and peddle this one.

"You can't fight in here, this is the War Room!"-"Dr. Strangelove"


Title: new movie idea
Post by: wickednick on August 28, 2003, 03:23:37 PM
I have a new movie idea.
This would be a fantasy/action movie. The main carector is a man names Farowe.Farwoe serves as the princesses royal guard in his kingdom of Helyan, but he and the princess are also in love.Its a love thoguh that no one can know about, and when the princess is to be wed to the prince of anouther kingdom the princess refuses to marry him.Its a mariage that must happen in order to insure peace between the two kingdoms.The knigs adviser who also happens to be a Seek (Seeks are a kind of wizard adept in the art of seeing the  past present and future) the Seek has long known about the relationship between Farwoe and the princess and when he tells the king that this is the reason she will not wed he goes into a rage and commands that Farwoe is to be executed.Farwoe manges to escape exectution, but is now no longer a knight of his kingdom.Banished and alone he wanders through the wilderness, not knowing what he will find, but always hoping that it will be a way to reclaim his lost princess.
Eventualy he wanders into the vast desert of Kangdorl.He knows nothjing of this land or its people, but he knows that there must be someone living in this land.So he follows what looks to be a old road.Its a long road and after many days of finding nothing but sand and dust his supplys run out and he colapsses in the desert.
Some time passes until he is found by a group of mercenerys which take him in and bring him back toi health.
This land of Kangdorl is a land at war.There are two major kingdoms Lower and Carazan.Both of these kindoms have been at war for over a centuary over the the greatest resource in Kangdorl the gold in the Pearl mountains.
The mercenerys, led by a man named Galion work for the kindom of Carazan, to help stop the attacks by the ever growing number of bandits on the caravans that travel back and forth between the major citys in Kangdorl.Farwoe joins up with the mercenerys to repay them for saving his life.
Farwoe quickly becomes a valued member of the group,he is a master swords man and fearless.During his time he is within the kindom of Carazan he learns of Carazans plans to find a powerful weapon created long ago in his land.The weapon is a nearly indestructible golem called Turnalm.Turnalm was made long ago by a evil wizard.The wizard use the golem to terrorize the land of Kangdorl, but after the wizard was killed the golem was lost and no one has sense been able to find it.There is one man though who claims to know were it is.His name is Sinaphear a person who has recently made his apearence in Carazan and he is a man few trust. But Sinaphear has none the less caught the ear of the king and has become an advisor to him.Also Farwoe seems to recognise Sinaphear but from were he does not know, but he gets the feeling that he is trouble.
As the story unfolds Farwoe,Galion and the rest of the mercenerys uncovers Sinaphears plot to use the golem when it is found to destroy both Lower and Carazan, and the relationship between Farwoe and Sinaphear is revealed.
The last half of the movie would consest of awsome battle scenes between the Kindoms of Lower and Carazan.There also would be a great scene at the end of the movie when Sinaphear and Farwoe fight while the golem rampages through Carazan.
The movie would not end on a happy note.Sinaphear is not killed nor is the golem destroyed.Farwoe and Galion along with who ever is left of the city is forced to flee the land of Kangdorl.
This would open up a sequal were Farwoe and Galion face off against Sinaphear, who has now built up a vast kingdom and has declared him self king.It is in the sequal were Sinaphear and his army would be defeated.



Title: Re: new movie idea
Post by: Paul Hotbranch on August 28, 2003, 05:08:22 PM
OK,go ahead and make it.


Title: Re: new movie idea
Post by: dean on August 28, 2003, 09:10:24 PM

not enough movies nowadays are of the fantasy/action genre.

dungeons and dragons was awful.

i personally like the idea of a final fantasy style movie [from the games, not what they based the movie no, which i liked anyway]

the whole swords and magic/technology thing was cool.  i love that game series, fantastic stuff.

also has anyone seen the japanese horror flick "Hypnosis"?  when they released the ring, i always thought that it would be a good hollywood remake as well, any comments?


Title: Re: If you could make a movie....
Post by: NEC on August 28, 2003, 10:08:22 PM
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I actually have some Fantasy ideas that I'm trying to fashion into a treatment and later a script. I'm trying hard to have my ideas be vaguely original and to not have them be some big cliche.



Title: Re: If you could make a movie....
Post by: Chadzilla on August 28, 2003, 10:36:31 PM
I would remake THE CAR. :)



Title: Re: If you could make a movie....
Post by: dean on August 29, 2003, 12:43:54 PM

i've always said its impossible to have an original idea: everything has pretty much been done in some sort of context or other, but it's how you treat it that makes it 'original'.

in film, they haven't really dealt with fantasy too much, but to combine fantasy with present day/future scifi type stuff is an original type slant.

NEC i reccomend you have a look at the final fantasy video game series, it's sorta cyber-punk with swords and magic.  [don't be discouraged by the 'spirits within' movie, it has nothing to do with the series]

i think its a great way of modernising the fantasy genre, so it doesn't get stuck in just trying to be like lord of the rings, with elves and stuff.  plus the japanime designs for all the scenery is kinda cool


Title: Re: If you could make a movie....
Post by: NEC on August 29, 2003, 03:51:33 PM
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Having a younger brother that's heavily into gaming, I've been familiar with Final Fantasy for many, many years now. But I know what you mean.



Title: Re: If you could make a movie....
Post by: Evil Matt on August 30, 2003, 06:11:51 AM
If I could make a movie about the struggle between man and machine, it'd be a more personal affair, with this one guy, kind of unkempt, sort of smelly, more than a little overweight, and his PC.  He just sits in front of the computer all day long playing spades on Yahoo or downloading Olsen twins pictures or whatever.  Then one fine day, he steps away from it to take a shower and maybe get some fresh air, and his computer eats him.  The end.