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Title: Biblical movies
Post by: The Burgomaster on October 02, 2003, 12:50:07 PM
I do not go to church regularly (in fact, I have probably gone only 3 or 4 times in the past 20 years), but I really enjoy watching Biblical movies for some reason.

Two of my favorites are:

* THE TEN COMMANDMENTS
* THE GREATEST STORY EVER TOLD

I also enjoy KING OF KINGS (even though it wasn't a big box-office or critical success), and GODSPELL (which put an interesting "hippie" spin on the life of Jesus).

I also enjoyed THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST, despite what all the protestors said about it.

Do any of you enjoy these types of movies?

I also find it interesting to look for religious symbolism/references in other movies. For example:

* THE OMEGA MAN - At the end, Charlton Heston assumes the pose of Christ being crucified.

* COOL HAND LUKE - After he eats 50 eggs, Paul Newman assumes the pose of Christ being crucified.

* MEAN STREETS - Harvey Keitel mimics a communion ceremony in a bar, using hard liquor instead of wine.

You can probably find at least one religious symbol or reference in almost every movie, if you look hard enough.

What are some others?



Title: Re: Biblical movies
Post by: Ellie on October 02, 2003, 01:18:11 PM
Jesus of Nazareth is pretty good. Make sure that you have a box of kleenix close by.


Title: Re: Biblical movies
Post by: The Burgomaster on October 02, 2003, 02:54:34 PM
Coincidentally, I ordered JESUS OF NAZARETH on DVD yesterday. It runs over 6 hours, so I suspect I will have to watch it in 2 or 3 sittings.



Title: Re: Biblical movies
Post by: chrisb on October 02, 2003, 03:21:34 PM
Jesus Christ Superstar. It should have been a comedy


Title: Re: Biblical movies
Post by: chrisb on October 02, 2003, 03:25:22 PM
No, I take that back, it was poignent and depressing even with its 'modern' makeover. The king Herod song was funny though.



Title: Re: Biblical movies
Post by: The Burgomaster on October 02, 2003, 03:43:09 PM
Does JESUS CHRIST, VAMPIRE HUNTER count as a religious movie?



Title: Re: Biblical movies
Post by: Jim H on October 02, 2003, 05:21:52 PM
You're probably looking forward to the Passion then?

Most of the people who protested The Last Temptation were idiots.


Title: Re: Biblical movies
Post by: Neville on October 03, 2003, 04:56:02 AM
Funny thought: One of the "Seven" unused drafts (you can get them at any good scripts page) featured a scene were Brad Pitt sung the "Jesuschrist Superstar" song to Kevin Spacey, just to annoy them.

I like religious elements in regular movies (Paul Schrader is great at it, check out "Light Sleeper" if you haven't), but I have little patience with biblical movies. I found the self-imposed seriousness, the cartoon settings and the long running times completely  unbearable. Maybe spanish TV is to blame, because every Easter you got all this movies on again. Or maybe it is that I saw "The Robe" when I was a kid. "The Robe" was one of the first widescreen movies evr, and it shows, it is really annoying. All you get is small figures in a big, horrid setting, with no close-ups. I loved "Monthy Python's life of Brian", but I don't know if that one counts. Oh, and "The Passion" might actually turn out a good movie. I'm waiting with expectation.



Title: Re: Biblical movies
Post by: dean on October 03, 2003, 07:47:17 AM

come on people! what about kevin smith's dogma?

if we actually had a buddy christ i might be more into religion.  i love that movie.


Title: Re: Biblical movies
Post by: Fearless Freep on October 03, 2003, 01:45:06 PM
Like most movie adaptations, the book is better  :)



Title: Re: Biblical movies
Post by: Bernie on October 03, 2003, 03:12:09 PM
One of the great Biblical moments in film is in Bride of Frankenstein, when the villagers catch the monster and string him up on a pole so that he resembles Jesus on the cross.

And does Life of Brian count as a Biblical movie??


Title: Re: Biblical movies
Post by: lester1/2jr on October 03, 2003, 03:39:59 PM
Sodom and Gomoroahh was cool.


Title: Re: Biblical movies
Post by: Susan on October 03, 2003, 07:31:01 PM
If you wanna watch one of the worst movies of all time it just happens to have a religions theme!

The Judas Project

I loved "the ten commandments", still catch it every year around easter.
So let it be written..so let it be done! Great characters. Other than what's been mentioned the only other two that pop to mind are "The seventh sign" and  "the Rapture"..both apocolyptic, however.



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Title: Re: Biblical movies
Post by: B-grade on October 03, 2003, 09:43:54 PM
The Prophecy series has a nice biblical feel and twist to it as well as a strong B movie vibe. Even my wife liked these films.


Title: Re: Biblical movies
Post by: Mofo Rising on October 04, 2003, 12:52:21 AM
Well, if you are going to talk about movies that have biblical allusions, you will never stop talking.

If you are talking movies that are based directly on the Christian gospel, then you have a topic.

I really liked LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST.  I think it was a sincere adaption of a book by Scorcese, like he really cared about the movie he was making.  The blasphemy (and there was blasphemy against orthodox Christianity) was not in the place most people think it was.  I wish I could have seen it in the theater (impossible as I was 12 at the time) so I could have seen the final "going off the reel" scene, which I think is one of the better cinematic tricks in recent history.  Also, Peter Gabriel's score is something to be admired.

I haven't seen too many more cinematic bible movies.  They seem to be movie death nowadays.  (PRINCE OF EGYPT didn't seem to bad.)

My problem is with those crappy movies you see on TBN or other stations.  They tell the gospel's but don't ever include quality.  It's a problem if you ever subject yourself to fundamentalist Christian criticism.  Any movie that has to do with Jesus and his doings in automatically good.  Like the weird subgroup that has grown around Christian rock.  It doesn't matter if the music is good, as long as they namecheck Jesus.

Still, an even weirder subtopic.  Have you ever watched TBN late at night (so I have no life) and seen them pitching their OMEGA CODE or the like movies?  They actually suggest that churches get groups together and rent out theater so their whole congregation can watch the movie.

Right.  I'll stop now, anyway.  I think that the passion play of Jesus is one of the most powerful stories going.  That's why I object so strongly to the lukewarm versions.  Okay, time for me to stop again.


Title: Re: Biblical movies
Post by: Evil Matt on October 04, 2003, 01:55:24 AM
After "Phantom Menace" came out, it seemed to me that Lucas turned Darth Vader into a "perverted Christ" figure.  He was immaculately conceived ("He has no father," Anakin's mom tells Qui-Gon, in one of the laziest pieces of screenwriting ever.  I don't appreciate the series' decision to force-feed literary themes down my throat, nor do I appreciate the way they took the easy way out on introducing Vader's father), he grew up poor, in the desert, no less.  Eventually he dies and is resurrected (in a sense...Luke sees him standing around with the ghosts of Obi-Wan and Yoda at the end of "Jedi") mirroring Christ's death, resurrection, and ascension to heaven.  The only thing Vader was missing was a group of twelve guys following him around preaching about the force.



Title: Re: Biblical movies
Post by: Blair on October 04, 2003, 10:13:15 PM

Oh my god, ya'll.  I just can't get enough of those freakout  '70s movies on the Church Channel. "Image of the Beast," "A Thief In the Night," and "A Distant Thunder." The crux of these movies is if you are left behind and don't want to take "the mark" --- you have to have your head chopped off!


Title: Re: Biblical movies
Post by: dean on October 05, 2003, 10:31:43 AM

i really really really think very little of george lucas.  i love a lot of his work and i like a fair few of his films, but the direction he has taken with the new batch of star wars s**ts me beyond belief.

my main problem: R2D2 never had rocket packs, so why do we need to see it in attack of the clones? oh that's right, so we can see all the bloody special effects they did on the film.

it's just a money making merchandising machine and nothing else, story is almost non existant [no new real information has really been given]

sigh... i'll shut up now, i've vented my anger for today!


Title: Re: Biblical movies
Post by: yaddo42 on October 06, 2003, 12:25:24 AM
I love watching the TBN bunch promoting their movies like "The Omega Code" and "Megiddo".

They made such a big deal out of the first film breaking into the top 10 movie grosses  (#7) its opening week, harping on it even though its box office take dropped greatly from the second week on. The first one made money because it was so cheap ($5 mil, IIRC) and they had little to no advertsing outside of promos on their own channel. They never mentioned the box office take or performance of "Megiddo", so I'm guessing it did poorly compared since it cost a lot more (about $10 to $12 mil).

Also how proudly they listed the cast members like they were bigger stars than they were. Casper Van Dien? The Crown Prince of bad straight to video crap. Michael York? A once medium level star in the 1970s with a respectable career now best known for the Austin Powers flicks. Catherine Oxenberg? A minor aging starlet most famous for being the daughter of the Queen of Yugoslavia and being married to producer Robert Evans only long enough to have it annulled.

I love that they threw the name Udo Kier around when he was in "Megiddo", but never seemed to interview him or mention his other film credits. I guess films like "German Chainsaw Massacre" would be hard to explain to the TBN audience.