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Title: My Thoughts on KILL BILL
Post by: Ash on October 10, 2003, 07:38:55 PM
Holy s**t!!

Like Brother R. likes to say, "This movie rocked my face off!!"

The only phrase I can think of off the top of my head is "jaw dropping".

This has to be one of the most bad ass films I have ever seen.
I was leaning forward in my seat for pretty much the entire film.

The fight scenes have to be seen to be believed.
I would definitely say that there is more blood & gore here than in Freddy vs. Jason.  
The gore in that film is tame by comparison.

Blood sprays like a geyser when arms, legs, heads & whatever else are hacked off!  
A guy gets his head cut off and the blood sprays like a hose nearly 10 feet in the air!
Gallons & gallons of it are spilled.

There are some truly spectacular scenes such as when The Bride takes on The Crazy 88 (88 of O-Ren Ishi's henchmen who all wear black kato masks) in the nightclub/restaurant and the film changes from color...then to B&W...then to slow motion..then back to full speed...then to color with the lights off (you only see their sillhouettes against a dark blue background as they fight) and then with the lights back on again.  f**king cool!
And the hottie 17 year old Go Go Yubari as O-Ren Ishi's (Lucy Liu) personal bodyguard with her ball & chain.  Holy s**t can that girl fight!

As usual, the scenes play out of chronological order like most of Tarantino's films but everything eventually does come full circle.
The 10-15 minute anime sequence depicting O-Ren Ishi's parents' death and her rise to power was extremely well done and didn't detract from the film at all.  It had nearly as much blood letting as the rest of the film.

The music is also that trademark 70's stuff like on "Jackie Brown" mixed with some western type guitar tunes.....a very good score.

After seeing it, I do agree that it was wise to split it into two volumes.
Trust me on that.....one review I read said it would've been too much sensory overload and I feel that that writer was absolutely correct...just go see it and I think you'll agree.  
Plus the splitting of it into two films in my opinion adds a certain kind of coolness to it that will make the film somewhat of a cult classic collector's item in the future.
Splitting it up was an ingenious decision I think.

I absolutely cannot wait to see Volume 2.
I have to witness The Bride take revenge on the rest of the Deadly Viper Assasination Squad that left her and her unborn child for dead!

I cannot recommend this film highly enough.
 I'd write more but I don't want to spoil it for you if you do decide to go see it.

GO SEE THIS FILM NOW!!!

Read Roger Ebert's 4 star review of it here:
http://www.suntimes.com/output/ebert1/wkp-news-killbill10f.html



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Title: Re: My Thoughts on KILL BILL
Post by: Neon Noodle on October 11, 2003, 01:08:43 AM
Well Ash, you pretty much summed it all up!

Anyone who lost faith in Tarantino after "Jackie Brown" will have their faith restored in Kill Bill.

It's 1am, and I wish i could grab another showing....


Title: Re: My Thoughts on KILL BILL
Post by: wickednick on October 11, 2003, 02:10:52 AM
Havn't seen the movie yet.It looks cool, but my only problem with it is that Uma Therman (sorry if last name spelled incorrect) is in it. I have just never liked her.To me she is ugly and not that great of an actress as well.Oh well even if she is in it I still want to see it.



Title: Re: My Thoughts on KILL BILL
Post by: Ash on October 11, 2003, 02:15:29 AM
Trust me guy....if you think she's ugly....you'll change your mind.
She's smokin' hot in this film.
Nothing's more sexy to me than a woman who kills without remorse with a sword!

I've always found her very attractive.  She looks great in those tight ass jeans when she fights Vivica Fox in the beginning of the film.  
I kept staring at her ass when it was shown!
"To each his own"  I always say.



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Title: Re: My Thoughts on KILL BILL
Post by: Brother Ragnarok on October 11, 2003, 02:43:39 AM
Well, Ash kinda stole my thunder, but what the hell...this movie ROCKED MY f**kING FACE OFF!
As my friend Bob said as we were leaving the theater, "Remind me when I've seen a more badass movie."  I, of course, could think of nothing.
I agree with wyckednick about not finding Uma attractive, but who the hell cares!  Swordfights!  Flying guillotines!  Blood geysers!  Sonny Chiba!  An opening still of the old "Filmed In Shawscope" logo for Christ's sake!  GO SEE THE DAMN MOVIE NOW!

Brother R



Title: Re: My Thoughts on KILL BILL
Post by: Evil Matt on October 11, 2003, 07:17:02 AM
Am I a bad person for actually liking "Jackie Brown"?



Title: Re: My Thoughts on KILL BILL
Post by: Deej on October 11, 2003, 07:31:12 PM
Evil Matt wrote:

> Am I a bad person for actually liking "Jackie Brown"?
>


I hope not, I liked it too.



Title: Re: My Thoughts on KILL BILL
Post by: The Burgomaster on October 11, 2003, 07:37:42 PM
I saw this today and I thought it was great. I was surprised that the amount of graphic violence and bloodshed didn't get it an NC-17 rating.



Title: Re: My Thoughts on KILL BILL
Post by: dean on October 12, 2003, 08:12:09 AM


damn thing doesn't come out here until thursday.  why do i have to wait? WHY?!??!?!

i think i'm going to go and take my revenge on all the local movie distributors...


Title: Re: My Thoughts on KILL BILL
Post by: jmc on October 12, 2003, 02:01:37 PM
I'm probably going to skip it....I'm not a big fan of the Asian action films that it's a homage to, so I don't think I'll enjoy it much.   Though it might be one of those things where I'm convinced beforehand that I'm going to hate it only to find out that I in fact like it.  But I don't wanna spend the cash to see it in the theater.


Title: Re: My Thoughts on KILL BILL
Post by: Uncle Fester on October 12, 2003, 11:58:18 PM
This is the kind of movie that you will talk about 6 months,1year from now.The fighting scenes were awsome!The Brides battle withO-Ren,in the snow was so beatifully shot[wipes tear]and a cool spanish guitar song in the background made this a highlight for me.


Title: Re: My Thoughts on KILL BILL
Post by: Dave:Blackeye15 on October 13, 2003, 01:59:20 PM
Beautiful *SOB* so beautful. I haven't been that execited to see a movie in a theater since Matrix Reloaded. and the last time I had that much fun was well.. Matrix Reloaded. KILL BILL KICKS ASS!

-the first rule of fat club-


Title: Re: My Thoughts on KILL BILL
Post by: The Burgomaster on October 13, 2003, 04:05:37 PM
Dave:Blackeye15 wrote:

"Beautiful *SOB* so beautful. I haven't been that execited to see a movie in a theater since Matrix Reloaded. and the last time I had that much fun was well.. Matrix Reloaded. KILL BILL KICKS ASS!"

I thought that KILL BILL was everything that MATRIX: RELOADED failed to be. KILL BILL was far more entertaining and the choreography of the action scenes in BILL was head-and-shoulders above RELOADED.

Plus, KILL BILL used the cheesy, psychedelic "Feature Presentation" announcement at the beginning that I remember so well from the early 1970s. And some of the music was classic "1973 cheapo martial arts movie" music, which gave me great feelings of nostalgia. Tarantino captured the look and feel of early 70s martial arts, contemporary Hong Kong action, anime, and even a hint of blaxploitation! Amazing!



Title: Re: My Thoughts on KILL BILL
Post by: Jackflack on October 13, 2003, 05:40:28 PM
Yeah, there's not enough positive things to say about this movie.  They did EVERYTHING right with this one.  

The Matrix?  What's that?  After seeing Kill Bill... that movie just doesn't mean much to me anymore.  The Wachowski Bros. got OWNED by Quentin Tarrentino.

Kill Bill:  It'll ROCK YOUR FACE OFF.

Yeah, I like the sound of that.


Title: Re: My Thoughts on KILL BILL
Post by: wuggles451 on October 13, 2003, 10:00:09 PM
Yes Kill Bill kicked ass! I have already seen it twice and may go back for thirds. It doesnt surprise me that Japan got a gorier version especially reading about the ratings concerns in entertainment weekly. Personally I like the black and white segment but i wish it had been used over something other than the breakdance sword fight I would love to see what that looks like in full color. As far as the DVD realease goes do you think both movies will be on one DVD so you can watch it for 3 hours straight the way it may or maynot have been originaly intended. If not i hope the dvds will atleast give us R rated and Unrated versions of each film in one package.



Title: Re: My Thoughts on KILL BILL
Post by: Ash on October 13, 2003, 10:04:23 PM
While sitting in the theater watching the movie I also wondered about the DVD.

I imagine that they'll initially release it as 2 seperate movies....to make more money obviously.

After that's been out for awhile I expect they'll release a special edition with the entire film uncut(the full 3 hours)...but it'll cost a bundle I'll bet.

(Oh and the scene where she spanks that guy with her sword had me rolling!)



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Title: Re: My Thoughts on KILL BILL
Post by: Brother Ragnarok on October 14, 2003, 12:52:16 AM
Kill Bill destroyed the Matrix's sorry pathetic piece of crap ass because Tarantino absolutely forbade the use of s**tty CGI effects so they had to rely on actual TALENT.  And some of the Tokyo cityscapes were leftovers from GMK: Giant Monsters All Out Attack (I love IMDB trivia).
For those who haven't seen it, keep some superglue handy to put your face back on after the movie rocks it off.

Brother R



Title: Q.T. Once Again Makes Me His Beotch
Post by: Mr_Vindictive on October 14, 2003, 07:48:34 AM
Caught this movie over the weekend while my wife and I were on vacation.  WOW.  Great frigging flick!  I've been a huge fan of Tarantino's ever since Resivoir(sp?) Dogs and was looking forward to Kill Bill.  I never expected the film to be as fantastic as it was!  Great stuff!

Someone mentioned on here earlier that they probably wouldn't like it since they don't like the older kung fu flicks that it is paying homage to.  Forget that!  I myself am a huge vintage kung fu fan, but unfortunatly my wife is not.  She hates it.  Chiba, Lee, doesn't matter-she hates it.  Yet, throughout this flick she was as excited if not more than myself.  She loved it!

Only downside of the film for me was that I was trying to figure out what film I knew GoGo from.  I knew it was Battle Royale, but couldn't figure out which character.  Thankfully, the IMDB helped me out.  She was Chigsua in Battle Royale, the chick that stabbed the guy in the crotch numerous times.  Figured I'd post that on here in case anyone else was wondering the same thing.



Title: Re: My Thoughts on KILL BILL
Post by: daveblackeye15 on October 14, 2003, 10:22:45 AM
To:Jackflack ,The Burgomaster, Brother Ragnarok.

I not sorry to say that I actually enjoyed Matrix Reload (Are you ok with that?) I'll admit I think Kill Bill is a better movie and I defintly had more fun at Kill Bill than "Matrix Reloaded" but I don't think Matrix Reload is a pathetic piece of crap as Jackflack put. Come on when I say "I hadn't had this much fun since well...Matrix Reload" that means it passed the bar of "If anybody says anything to me or touchs me at the slightest tap I'm gonna p**s myself because I'm so excited" (Kinda like my grandma's dog whenever I enter her house) At the end of Matrix Reload I said to my brother "Hey Matt thanks for buying that ticket for that cool movie." NOW at the end of KILL BILL I was like ".......*SOB* GOD BLESS YOU FOR BUYING ME THAT TICKET, FOR ALL ETERINTY!" So you see, you can stop kicking my ass now already guys SHEESH! (If I've offened anyone I'm sorry It's morning over here on the West Coast O.K.)

-the first rule of fat club-


Title: Re: My Thoughts on KILL BILL
Post by: The Burgomaster on October 14, 2003, 12:02:41 PM
To daveblackeye15:

I don't necessarily think that RELOADED is a pathetic piece of crap . . . I just think that it was overhyped and didn't deliver the "punch" that it should have. When I saw it in the theater, I couldn't get into it . . . I even found the highway chase to be somewhat dull. RELOADED is all about CG effects and MTV style direction and editing. But it lacks "heart." You could see that Tarantino poured his heart into KILL BILL.

As for RELOADED, even though I was tremendously disappointed in it, I STILL ordered the DVD for my collection and I fully intend to give it another chance. Moreover, when Part 3 comes out, I will most likely go to see it . . . and I will also buy the DVD.

Is RELOADED a total piece of crap? No. It's just a movie that had a lot of promise, but turned out to be fairly dull.



Title: Re: My Thoughts on KILL BILL (sp)
Post by: George on October 14, 2003, 01:43:27 PM
Pseudo spoiler below



















There is alot of homage ot Asian movies in the Lucy Liu segment of the film.  Beyond that, I didn't think the Vivica Fox segment was "Asian" at all.  This leads me to hope, albeit foolishly, that the showdowns with Darryl Hannah, Michael Madsen, and Bill will be different.  Maybe The Bride will confront each in their own favorite style....please....please.....please...


Title: Re: My Thoughts on KILL BILL
Post by: wuggles451 on October 14, 2003, 02:53:43 PM
Spoiler Ahead



To George I read that the final showdown with Bill is another sword fight, which is ok by me, on a beach during sunset. As you said about fighting everyone using their own style I think that is highly likely. She knife fights Vivica A Fox then mentions how she is the best with an edge weapon. She then sword fiights O-Ren Ishii who is a yakuza, also an adaptation to her targets style. So I would say that is a pretty good prediction George.



Title: Re: My Thoughts on KILL BILL
Post by: The Burgomaster on October 14, 2003, 03:35:14 PM
In KILL BILL, Tarantino certainly made up for the lack of violence in JACKIE BROWN.



Title: Re: My Thoughts on KILL BILL
Post by: JohnL on October 14, 2003, 10:42:14 PM
>I imagine that they'll initially release it as 2 seperate movies....to make more
>money obviously.
>
>After that's been out for awhile I expect they'll release a special edition with the
>entire film uncut(the full 3 hours)...but it'll cost a bundle I'll bet.

Don't forget the expanded 4+ hour director's cut and the mega-platinum version with 2 hours of behind the scenes info, and the ultra-gold edition...


Title: Re: My Thoughts on KILL BILL
Post by: Big Nern 420 on October 15, 2003, 12:16:08 AM
I loved Kill Bill. I usually never bother going to the movies. It seems to me like most movies suck these days, and the only ones that I want to see dont come to the theater in my town. just my luck...
Kill Bill amazed me. I loved how artsy it was. The shots from above the room were awsome, and I was so confused when they bleeped the brides real name. I was sitting in the theater like, "what the f**k just happened?" I think they should make a billion sequels. They could have vivica a fox's kid come after her and she is too old to beat her so she gets killed and then her kid comes after her and back and forth, generation after generation.
A few questions you all are probably wondering yourselves...
Who was uma marrying??
.Really... how old is David Carradine now....?

I also agree with the notion that she will battle each person's particular style. But how can uma really beat david carradine... i mean he is david carradine.


Title: Re: My Thoughts on KILL BILL
Post by: George on October 16, 2003, 11:03:19 AM
Tons of questions in this one.  That's one of the things I really enjoyed.  As for David Carradine....she need only to snatch the pebble from his hand.....or.....he could hand the pebble to ......never mind.


Title: Re: My Thoughts on KILL BILL
Post by: Jackflack on October 18, 2003, 11:58:25 PM
On the subject of different fight scenes for different targets, yeah I think that's gonna happen too.

And for some odd reason, I see her having a huge gunfight with Michael Madsen.....

But I'm probably completely wrong.


Title: Re: My Thoughts on KILL BILL
Post by: C Reynolds on October 19, 2003, 09:58:02 AM
I saw this last night at the cinema and I thought it was brilliant. My dad however hated it and said it was full of sadism.

On the subject of fighting each opponent in their own particular style, so far the  knife fight with Vivica Fox which seemed very much in the style of fights in urban/ghetto exploitation movies like "Switchblade Sisters".

The fighting with Lucy Liu and her minions was in the style of Japanese samurai films like "Lone Wolf and Cub" (and there was a bit of anime thrown in there too).

That leaves the question of what style the fights with Michael Madsen, Daryl Hannah and David Carradine will be in. In the "Kill Bill" trailer there is a brief shot of Daryl Hannah doing a flying kick across the room, so it's possible that her fight scenes will be all kung-fu style.

There were also some shots of a Chinese man floating about on wires and leaping onto Uma's sword, so she might fight David Carradine in the style of Wuxia films and have to learn the secrets of Wuxia martial arts from the old Chinese man.

That just leaves Michael Madsen's fight, and like Jackflack said, it could be a gunfight. After all, how can you make a tribute to exploitation films without having gunfights?


Title: Re: My Thoughts on KILL BILL
Post by: mr. henry on October 19, 2003, 01:56:56 PM
my brief thoughts.

kill bill is the first flick i've gone back and seen more than once since pulp fiction (which i saw 5 times in theaters (i was in some film classes in school and was using it as material)) the best place i saw pulp fiction was at chicago's briew n view where you can drink beer and watch the flick.

anyway, kill bill definitely holds up to multiple viewings. i got more out of the house of blue leaves crazy 88 fight the second time around and spent more time paying attention to the music and crazy sound effects whenever uma would lock eyes or see a rival assassin.

the great thing about this flick is that it shows the blood in the fights. think matrix reloaded, a couple of decent fight scenes but not one drop of blood. american cinema needs more blood. and of course it is over the top here, in a peter jackson sorta way.

i loved the retro "feature presentation" opening. i've heard some thought the sonny chiba chapter was slow but it's one of my favorite parts. not to mention that uma looks pretty damn cute in her white t-shirt and cleaned up.

great fun flick. no rich story like the Jackie Brown or twists and turns like reservoir dogs or pulp fiction to unwind, but just a lot of visceral fun. hell, i might go see it a third time. i expect part two to reveal some juicy plot turns, like how did darryl hannah's character lose her eye. i know i've seen a promo shot somewhere where she wasn't wearing an eye patch and her eye was missing. maybe uma did it?  who's keeping the baby and what's going on. i also think the entire wedding massacre will be shown as well. let's hope.

and i still wish we'd have gotten the colorized bloodier fight scenes found in the japanese version of the film.



Post Edited (10-19-03 13:59)