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Title: Pirates of the Caribbean Lawsuit
Post by: Anonymous User on February 04, 2004, 01:40:54 PM
Re: Pirates of the Caribbean - Theft of intellectual properties

I would like to introduce myself. I am Royce Mathew (indie film maker).  I am in need of all artists who could find themselves in my shoes.  I am currently underway with discussions which to bring suit against the Walt Disney Company/Disney Enterprises (and/or related companies) over the apparent theft of my intellectual property(ies)..

I claim Disney has apparently stolen my intellectual properties, which include unique and original story, concepts, characters and designs for their Pirates of the Caribbean feature film and three additional released Disney related projects.

I claim Disney has apparently stolen my unique creations, story, concepts and characters and they have apparently appeared in a total of four related Disney's projects at the same time, including Pirates of the Caribbean feature film.

I have physical evidence to support my claims. This evidence includes documents and published audio/visual product.

Note: Aside from being a published writer, producer and director, Royce Mathew also has the credentials of being both a writer, designer, producer and director of inter-active computer software & games.  Credits include lots of indie films & shoestring budgets productions.  Agencies dealings include CAA & Wm Morris.

Disney has evidently locks up the attorney pool, making it very difficult to find a top firm attorney with no ties to Disney.  I welcome all help to find a reputable attorney/firm.   An ad ran in Variety on December 3, 2003.  -  Thank you.   www.disneylawsuit.com

here are some of my credits and links

PRODUCTION CREDITS INCLUDE:

Puppet Master Series (Full Moon) - Sci-Fi Channel & Theatrical release
Ghetto Blaster - Production Design & Art Direction
Grease 2 - Production development
Allan Carr Enterprises - Production development - includes La Cage Aux Folles
Ghost Writer - National Broadcast - Production Design, Special Effects & Art Direction
Circuitry Man - SCI-FI Channel & Theatrical release - Art Director
Night Children - National Broadcast & Theatrical release - Art Director
Murder Weapon - Art Director
Nightmare Sisters - Production & Art Direction
Dreamaniac  - Asst. Art direction
Lady Avenger - Production & Art Direction
Deadly Embrace - Art Director
Creepozoids - Production Design & Art Direction
Assault of the Killer Bimbos - USA Channel & Theatrical release - Production Design & Art Direction
Sorority Babes and the Slimeball Bowl-a-rama - Production & Art Design
Naked Instinct - Art director
Chick Boxer - Art director
Frankenstein 3-Headed Award - props & set
Super Mario Bros. Show - Hitman of Design - set
Gateway Computers - computer assist
Trancers 2 - Production Assistant
Girlfriend From Hell - USA Channel - Art Director
The Girl That I Want - Art Director
Assault of the Party Nerds - USA Channel - Art Direction
Dream A Little Evil - USA Channel - Written, produced & directed (edited, effects & more)
Interactive movie & game - Written, produced, directed created (edited, effects & more)

Framed - Interactive game - written, designed & created - (& more)  

Commercials include: HS Computers; Attorney Connection Commercial - Paul Parko Productions


Title: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean Lawsuit
Post by: Velvet Brotha on February 04, 2004, 02:00:48 PM
Wow, this really doesn't suprise me. Those low lives have been stealing other people's ideas for years.

Disney has a real strong hold on Hollywood but don't let that stop you. It would be nice to see those faggots get what they deserve! I wish you the very best of luck.


Title: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean Lawsuit
Post by: Mr_Vindictive on February 04, 2004, 02:18:55 PM
Skeptical



Title: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean Lawsuit
Post by: jmc on February 04, 2004, 03:42:46 PM
Pirates of the Caribbean was a ride long before it was a movie, although the ride didn't really have a plot other than pirates making a raid, chasing women around, and then having the women chase them around with brooms.


Title: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean Lawsuit
Post by: AndyC on February 04, 2004, 04:04:11 PM
jmc wrote:
> although the ride didn't really have a plot other than pirates
> making a raid, chasing women around, and then having the women
> chase them around with brooms.

What a movie that would have made!

Hmmm, did Disney steal that plot from Benny Hill?



Title: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean Lawsuit
Post by: The Burgomaster on February 04, 2004, 05:06:14 PM
I tried to prove that RKO pictures stole my idea for KING KONG, but the lawsuit fell apart because I wasn't born until 3 decades after the movie came out.



Title: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean Lawsuit
Post by: 42nd_Street_Freak on February 04, 2004, 05:12:24 PM
Sounds like a lot of old crap to me.  Wildly entertaining film so I could care less.



Title: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean Lawsuit
Post by: -=NiGHTS=- on February 04, 2004, 09:51:29 PM
I'm a bit skeptical, but if you worked on Circuitry Man, I want to be your friend.


Title: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean Lawsuit
Post by: Dunners on February 04, 2004, 11:47:49 PM
I checked out his IMDB profile, he sounds liek he is who he says he is...but the speaking in a third person is rather odd....



Title: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean Lawsuit
Post by: Velvet Brotha on February 05, 2004, 11:34:29 AM
If he really is who he says he is, then why hasn't he come back? I find it a little odd that he would just post and leave.

However, I still stand behind the idea that he may indeed have been ripped off... Worse things have happened in this unpredictable and dispicable world.


Title: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean Lawsuit
Post by: dean on February 05, 2004, 11:28:02 PM

"If he really is who he says he is, then why hasn't he come back? I find it a little odd that he would just post and leave. "

Not everyone posts everyday, give it a week or two and see whether he gives us an update.

This guy has done alot of stuff that I like, so if he is genuine, I give him full support, if not, then why smear this guys name in the mud?

Either way, something messed up is happening.


Title: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean Lawsuit
Post by: ulthar on February 06, 2004, 01:35:44 AM
One question I have is if the infringements include already published documents, why not mention those explicitly so we can take a look.  It should be pretty easy to look at the material and the pub dates to see if there is at least a chance this is authentic.

Sorry, just the skeptic in me.



Title: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean Lawsuit
Post by: Evil Matt on February 06, 2004, 04:30:48 AM
Disney DID steal the idea for Pirates of the Caribbean from this guy, but only after HE stole them from ME!

Honest.



Title: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean Lawsuit
Post by: Eirik on February 06, 2004, 04:49:22 AM
Locked up the lawyer pool?  Huh?  I find it a little bit of a stretch that Disney has hired every lawyer in the country.  People are suing Disney all the time.  You need to look harder, dude, but if all else fails, call:

Lionel Hutz at I Can't Believe It's a Lawfirm, KL5-7781.


Title: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean Lawsuit
Post by: Taisho on July 17, 2006, 05:34:41 AM
You know what I find just a wee bit too convenient is the fact that, when I just looked up the paperwork, it says: "Filed, Clerk, US District Court Jul-7 2006, Central District of California Deputy". Does anybody else find it a bit of a coincidence that the paperwork was filed the day that the second Pirates of the Caribbean movie came out? I do believe that somebody is pulling a bit of a ploy here. If you wish to see the paperwork for yourself I found it here:

http://cdn.digitalcity.com/tmz_documents/pirates_lawsuit_2.pdf

I think a little somebody either needs to provide answers or shut up, eh Mr. Royce Mathew? You should stop trying to weasel money out of others for things that are not yours. By the way, even if there are some coincidences, they are likely just that; coincidences. I've seen many situations in movies that I've dreamed up in some flight of fancy before I ever saw the stupid things, but you don't hear me screaming to high heaven that people stole my ideas! Also, even if they were stolen, you have nothing if you didn't have it copyrighted, which I heard that a certain Mr. Mathew "didn't get around to." How terribly convenient.


Title: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean Lawsuit
Post by: The Burgomaster on July 17, 2006, 05:47:02 AM
Aren't all pirates pretty much the same?  Couldn't just about anyone who was ever involved in a pirate movie try to sue Disney over similarities?  Hmmmmmm . . . .


Title: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean Lawsuit
Post by: RCMerchant on July 17, 2006, 06:09:12 AM
Pirates of the Caribbean was a model kit series (by Revell,I think) during the 70's,which featured Skeletons dressed up as pirates (much like the undead pirates in the film.) Coincidence? Maybe. But there are not to many things that HAVE'NT been thought up or done ,in some type of media that doesn't resemble something else. Sounds iffy to me...like the killer puppets is an old hat idea as well.C"mon,now...


Title: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean Lawsuit
Post by: The Burgomaster on July 17, 2006, 08:03:24 PM
RC:

I had one of those pirate models.  They were cool because ecah one had a button on it somewhere and if you pressed the button, the pirate moved.  I think mine had a sword in his hand and it would come crashing down on a traesure chest or something when you pressed the button.


Title: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean Lawsuit
Post by: peter johnson on July 17, 2006, 10:18:37 PM
The obvious reason this is a total fake:
Why the hell would he post his message here, on Badmovies.org?
What, we got legal people here?  We got Industry people here?
This Disney's favorite hangout, or what?
Folks, I'm the only "industry" person who posts here regularly.  T'ain't nobody of any consequence give a rat's behind who reads what on this board.
And dat why we fun!
peter johnson/denny crane


Title: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean Lawsuit
Post by: Shadowphile on July 18, 2006, 04:48:08 PM
He was posting here to gather support.  Likely he put up posts on as many movie related websites as he could locate, trying to further his lawsuit.  If he is correct, more power to him.  If he's trying to get money for something he didn't do, I hope he rots....


I'd love to get a look at his 'original design concepts'


Title: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean Lawsuit
Post by: RCMerchant on July 18, 2006, 04:50:53 PM
You mean we're just a buncha losers,that nobody cares,that we 're like a dog chasing his own tail? That none of this means nothing? I...I might cry...(sob)...


Title: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean Lawsuit
Post by: Just Plain Horse on July 18, 2006, 06:22:12 PM
The Burgomaster Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I tried to prove that RKO pictures stole my idea
> for KING KONG, but the lawsuit fell apart because
> I wasn't born until 3 decades after the movie came
> out.
>
>
Ah, but can they PROVE you were born after... oh, wait, of course they can. HAH! Stupid Lawyer wins again!

I don't know if what the guy is saying is true or not, but I just want it to be true. I'm no fan of Disney by any stretch.


Title: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean Lawsuit
Post by: BTM on July 19, 2006, 07:10:19 PM
Er... just one question the original Pirates has been out for, gosh, I dunno, about two years now, why are you waiting till NOW to bring this suit about?  Did you somehow miss all the advertisements when the first film came out?


Title: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean Lawsuit
Post by: ulthar on July 19, 2006, 11:56:08 PM
Check the dates on the OP.  It's an old thread that got resurrected for some reason.  :)


Title: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean Lawsuit
Post by: Ash on July 20, 2006, 06:35:32 AM
Thanks ulthar...
I was wondering when someone was going to point out that this thread was written in Febuary of 2004.
(it was the very first thing I noticed)


Title: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean Lawsuit
Post by: BoyScoutKevin on July 20, 2006, 09:10:48 AM
Well, that answers that question. Either the case was settled out of court, or it was thrown out of court for one reason or the other. But, what I'm waiting for, is someone suing over a film that flopped.


Title: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean Lawsuit
Post by: Jamtoy on July 20, 2006, 09:35:30 AM
Already Happened

http://www.cinescape.com/0/editorial.asp?aff_id=0&this_cat=Movies&action=page&type_id=&cat_id=270338&obj_id=49366


Title: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean Lawsuit
Post by: Shadowphile on July 20, 2006, 10:49:47 AM
The fact remains he filed the suit this month, to coincide with the release of the sequel.


Title: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean Lawsuit
Post by: BoyScoutKevin on July 20, 2006, 11:28:55 AM
Thanks, JT. That's the thing about the law. Just when you thought you've seen everything. Something new pops up.