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Title: Rap sucks
Post by: Aaron Peetz on June 25, 2004, 03:22:11 PM
       Okay, just started a new topic because the media is starting to p**s me off.  Rap sucks for many reasons, but the reasons are limitless. I know that a lot of people are with me one this. Not only for the facte that rap sucks! But that it puts a bad influence on how kids are tought to grow up. Let's start with why rap sucks. Number one reason is that all the rappers care about image. Trying to get themselves to look better to be more famouse. And nobody actually listins to the crap. They just say " oooh he\she is sexy. they rock". and if they weren't body buetifule, you wouldn't see a famouse rapper, think about it. Have you ever seen a rapper that is really rich and famous that is not attractive? Don't think so.....reason number two. All the lyrics are about is getting drunk,shootin people,guns, how rich or famouse you are, or girls. That about sums up what they talk about. The last reason, Rappers get rich and famouse bye talkin about there bling bling while die hard rockers put all there time and money into actually playing instruments, and righting lyrics about how they actually feel. Not how famouse they are. Oh, and have you ever seen a rap video? It's either dancing in clubs or showing people get out of nice cars in slow motion. Nice video, think I'll watch it again. NOT!!! Ok, I will admit, there are some really good rappers, and some really s**tty rockers, but that's not my point. The message is that rap music sets a bad example for anybody. Seriously before you say, " I love 50 cent" or " Dr. dre rocks", atleast listen to all there music or listen to real rap like, eminem, Run DMC, Will Smith, Black eyed peas, tech n9ne, or N*E*R*D. C'mon people, do you know what music means? singing, not talking to a beat.


Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: Acidburn on June 25, 2004, 03:33:34 PM
I agree in some ways.  First off have you ever seen fat Joe,  birdman,  or big Pun.  Not the most attractive people on the planet.  
There is a very bad message that comes from alot of rap, which is do whatever it takes to make money and show you are more powerful then everyone else. BUT...there is an equally bad message that comes from rock.  Which is do drugs, have sex, hurt people. Rockers are a very angry bunch.  
That being said I am a HUGE fan of ROCK.....rock is total music.  You have to be talented to be a rock star.  I know that it takes some talent to rap, but they do not play the music in their own songs.  It is mixed on computers by producers.  Not to much talent to come in a say a few words that ryme then leave.  There is no though or emotion in it, and emotion is the soul of music.  When music first hit the main stream it was mostly taken from a jazz and blues type of music.  Which was all about  emotion...hence 'blues'.    Enough of that!   Thats my two cents worth.


Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: Gecko Brothers on June 25, 2004, 05:09:20 PM
Rap does suck. It's like rock or jazz you just need to get it to like it.


Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: trekgeezer on June 25, 2004, 06:20:56 PM
I have always said Rap is Crap. Sorry if it offends someone' but it is a mostly no talent business.  I don't like country for the most part either, if that helps.



Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: Ash on June 25, 2004, 06:48:14 PM
The only rap that I like is anything made from 1988 to around 1993.

After that, everything went to s**t.

I like old school rappers like Eazy E, NWA, Ice T and Ice Cube.

They all had real talent...unlike the wannabe's of today.



Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: Susan on June 25, 2004, 09:10:15 PM
When rap first came out mainstream in the form of the Fat Boys and run DMC my dad used to say that rap sounded like tennis shoes in the dryer.


sorry, just always thought that was funny ;-)



Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: Mr_Vindictive on June 25, 2004, 10:24:45 PM
And this has what to do with B-Movies?  ;o)



Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: Susan on June 25, 2004, 10:35:23 PM
Skaboi wrote:

> And this has what to do with B-Movies?  ;o)
>

Well if we're talking "bad" movies, I can think of a few going back to electric bugaloo, the fat boys follies and even current rap artists attempts at movies. ;-)



Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: Ash on June 25, 2004, 11:02:36 PM
Didn't the Fat Boys do a movie called "Disorderlies"?

Now THAT was a bad movie!



Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: StatCat on June 25, 2004, 11:19:32 PM
It's easily the worst genre of music (if you want to call it music)



Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: BeyondTheGrave on June 25, 2004, 11:33:10 PM
i was once a fan a rap bout 4-5 years ago. my closest friends into and i decied to start listening  to it. the reason i stopped listening is how fake it is. i remember when 50 cent first came out i was telling everyone i liked him. he sucks or thats wack i was told. now everyone who told me that is in love with him now cause hes a big rap star. ugh. all about popualrity.

I know I know ive been exposed permeant psychoses..
at least the colors are nice"- Aeon Flux


Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: JohnL on June 26, 2004, 12:42:06 AM
I can't stand listening to rap. Watching it is almost as bad. What's with all the hand flinging? It's like their arm is having a spasm everytime they open their mouths.


Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: maria paula on June 26, 2004, 07:31:45 AM
reason number one why i dont like rap, merely because im spanish and i dont understand anything, specially with all this slang.



Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: Mr_Vindictive on June 26, 2004, 08:36:12 AM
Susan,

So I take it that you didn't like Disorderlies?

;o)



Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: Susan on June 26, 2004, 09:30:14 AM
Skaboi wrote:

> Susan,
>
> So I take it that you didn't like Disorderlies?
>

Just didn't hold a candle to the hardcore "breakdancing" films like Beat Street...lol



Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: BeyondTheGrave on June 26, 2004, 11:39:50 AM
maria paula wrote:

> reason number one why i dont like rap, merely because im
> spanish and i dont understand anything, specially with all this
> slang.

dont worry maria be glad you dont understand it :)


"I know I know ive been exposed permeant psychoses..
at least the colors are nice"- Aeon Flux


Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: mr. henry on June 26, 2004, 12:02:45 PM
uh...real rap like will smith...you are on crack.

someone who says they like rap doesn't have to mean they like everything by everybody who falls under the widening umbrella of "rap"

rolling stone just gave the beastie boys new album 5 stars and it's worth every penny...even makes fun of metrosexual rappers like puffy.



Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: Fearless Freep on June 26, 2004, 12:21:22 PM
rolling stone

Who?

the beastie boys new album 5 stars

Did they mention that it secretly installs DRM software on your computer?



Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: Mr_Vindictive on June 26, 2004, 12:35:57 PM
Freep,

DRM?



Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: Susan on June 26, 2004, 12:44:12 PM
all the more reason to use adaware and spyware



Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: Fearless Freep on June 26, 2004, 12:58:59 PM
DRM

"Digital Rights Management" - a broad umbrella term for software being pushed by MS and the MPAA and RIAA to prevent people from copying CDs or listening to some music (CD, mp3) unless you have the DRM software installed

Beastie Boys CD installs virus (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/06/23/beastie_boy_cd_virus/)
New Beasties disc has DRM -- Fight! For your right! To cooo-oopy!  (http://boingboing.net/2004/06/11/new_beasties_disc_ha.html)
 Beastie Boys 5 Boroughs DRM flak (http://p2pnet.net/story/1724)
Beastie Boys' New Album Silently Installs DRM Code (http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/04/06/20/0034203.shtml?tid=141&tid=158&tid=185&tid=188&tid=190&tid=201&tid=99)



Post Edited (06-26-04 13:08)


Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: Fearless Freep on June 26, 2004, 01:10:46 PM
all the more reason to use adaware and spyware

Even more reason to support independent artitsts not on the big labels represnted by the RIAA



Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: raj on June 26, 2004, 02:29:54 PM
There also was Houseparty in the early 1980s.  Never saw it, can't stand rap.


Title: rap rules
Post by: lester on June 26, 2004, 06:01:01 PM
i think it's had a great influence.  Whereas hippies and punk rock were all about getting high and rebelling with your parents money, kid stoday idolize p diddy and think making money and working hard is cool.  the hip hop and r 'n' b stuff might not all be as good as the "old school" but it's may more listenable than the matchbox 20, dave mathews garbage they play in my gym.  You pray for R kElly or 50 cent there.


Title: Re: rap rules
Post by: mr. henry on June 26, 2004, 06:14:17 PM
glad to hear you pray for r kelly...he needs it p**sing on fourteen year olds.



Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: Chopper on June 26, 2004, 07:15:08 PM
How can you generalize one form of music? Sure mainstream rap sucks, but you know what: so does mainstream rock. I just don't listen to either. And I don't listen to what MTV considers "punk" also. Punk and rap are both in the same boat, they've fallen prey to commercialization. But that's ok because both genres always stay true to the underground.

Like hardcore and real punk there's still a lot of cool underground rap, or hip-hop as I prefer to call it, that raps/sings about a lot of important social issues like poverty, police brutality, broken homes, AIDS. These are a lot of the same social issues punk and hardcore continues to sing about.

MTV or the media can label whatever they want, it's their freedom to do so. Hardcore and rap came about for the same reason, so kids from broken homes and bad neighborhoods could come together and sing/rap about their emotions instead of killing eachother.

True underground music will never die, it was made in the streets and it will stay in the streets forever.

"And if you don't believe in anything
 the least you can do:
 is believe in yourself." -Forged Passages


Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: zephyr on July 17, 2004, 05:13:44 PM
Underground hip-hop!!  : -D

Random rappers/groups to check out:

Sage Francis, Atmosphere, Cannibal Ox, Sole, Jedi Mind Tricks, Saul Williams,  Aesop Rock, Gang Starr (early nineties stuff), A Tribe Called Quest, El-P, Buck65, Doseone, cLOUDDEAD, Deep Puddle Dynamics....

All of these rappers/poets talk about issues that are both very important and very personal.


Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: Susan on July 17, 2004, 06:01:20 PM
Chopper wrote:

> How can you generalize one form of music? <<<


Um..I can.

Polka sucks!



Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: jga5000 on July 19, 2004, 04:10:41 PM
Mainstream of everything is genrally bad. I'm still not a rap fan but respect the underground stuff. It's funny how a no-talent guy like P.Diddy is making more money and more attention in music than an actual real talented underground artist. The days where talent got popular by istelf are over. MAjority of people jsut want a clean little package so they can be like everyone else and not look "strange".

To the guy that started this thread, I think you'll have a blast reading this article I foudn the other day: http://www.angrypatrioticbastard.com/entMedia.html


Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: JohnL on July 19, 2004, 09:19:04 PM
Has anyone seen the commercials for that new "reality" show where two families swap moms for a week? White and black families switch moms and at one point the white mom tells the kids "I'm sorry guys, I can't handle rap music. It gives me a headache." and the daughter looks at her with her mouth hanging open like the woman just suggested that they cook & eat the family pet.


Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: Ash on July 20, 2004, 12:01:45 AM
JohnL wrote:

> Has anyone seen the commercials for that new "reality" show
> where two families swap moms for a week? White and black
> families switch moms and at one point the white mom tells the
> kids "I'm sorry guys, I can't handle rap music. It gives me a
> headache." and the daughter looks at her with her mouth hanging
> open like the woman just suggested that they cook & eat the
> family pet.

Oh yeah!
I have seen this and will most likely tune in when it's broadcast to the masses.
I have to see this load of BS for myself!

By the way, if you've ever watched Chapelle's Show on Comedy Central you'll remember Dave doing a parody of this...it was hilarious.

I'd bet a bundle that the producers took that idea after they saw Dave Chapelle's skit.

Thieving bastards!



Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: TadpoleBuckshot on July 20, 2004, 12:46:39 AM
YOU set a bad example for people Aaron. Just because alot of people are "with you" on "this" doesn't make your points valid.  

If u like the music...

 Listen to it.

If you dont want your children corrupted by the outside world, then corrupt them yourself by locking them in the house and shoving all your favorite showtunes down their throats..


Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: Bheliom on July 20, 2004, 04:49:09 AM
Rap sucks?

Hmmm, I am a huge Rock/Metal fan but a firmly disagree with the generall "RAP-Sucks" Idea.!

R.A.P. or Rythmic American Poetry as it is called has dozens of Good artist´s and/or songs!

HipHop on the other hand... sucks big time... and there´s a HUGE difference between the two!

Real RAP is harsch on it´s lyrics (word like f**k occur often) and have most of the time a REAL message in them...
unlike HipHop wich is more dull in it´s lyrics, with mostly maintream thoughts behind it (selling records, nothing more is important to them).

But this is only my humble oppinion ;)



Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: dean on July 20, 2004, 09:56:32 AM
Has anyone seen the commercials for that new "reality" show
> where two families swap moms for a week? White and black
> families switch moms and at one point the white mom tells the
> kids "I'm sorry guys, I can't handle rap music. It gives me a
> headache." and the daughter looks at her with her mouth hanging
 >open like the woman just suggested that they cook & eat the
 >family pet.

Is this British? If it is, this has been out for a while.  I saw a few episodes last year sometime.  It was quite funny.  That's something for the reality tv post though...

Rap/Hip Hop, however, is a different matter:  They get far for looking beautiful? Have you seen most of the people in this business?  Ugggghly!

Remember all the music in the charts are aimed at the early teens.  We have a juniour at work who loves all the mainstream stuff, and I mean LOVES it.  It's geared towards a certain market.

Oh, and clubbers too, alot of them love it as well.  But I'd like to think that the majority of us just stick with what we like, not what we are told to like.

If you like the mainstream stuff, that's fine, if you don't that's fine too [even better perhaps! :-P ]

Who gives a damn how bad it is, just don't listen!!  I've given up listening to radio a long time ago [well unless it is a more alternative station]


Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: JohnL on July 21, 2004, 07:10:05 PM
>R.A.P. or Rythmic American Poetry

I always thought it stood for Really Awful Pounding. :)

>Is this British? If it is, this has been out for a while.

No, it's American, but it was almost certainly inspired by the British show you saw. After all, why come up with an original idea when you can just copy someone else's. :(


Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: Freeburger on July 23, 2004, 10:17:04 AM
This is the aurthor. I changed my name. ummmm, 'been getting alot of s**t like it has a good influence and rap is the best genre of "music". I'd like to say that what is a good role modle who treats women like crap, has an attitude and speaks against polotics. WOW, what a role model, and let's see how stupid they are. HAve you evere watched cribs on MTV? all the rappers have big ass cars and nice houses, but they don't know how to pay for the house so they hire an agent. They don't know how to do anything with the car except drive, not to change the oil or anything. and they don't have anything but a nice house. instead of showing us the money, show a deploma or 2. Show us your brains, not your money. sorry, got a little caried away


Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: Freeburger on July 23, 2004, 10:41:40 AM
this is the author again, been searching the net, and I've found the wierdest thing. An epic rap group, yah, they talk about s**t like time and space and darkness and stuff, the beats are cool. they don't talk about money. there called the chemical brothers. wow, they rock.


Title: Re: Crap sucks
Post by: zephyr on July 25, 2004, 03:15:05 PM
to quote myself:

>> Random rappers/groups to check out:

Sage Francis, Atmosphere, Cannibal Ox, Sole, Jedi Mind Tricks, Saul Williams, Aesop Rock, Gang Starr (early nineties stuff), A Tribe Called Quest, El-P,  Mr. Lif, Buck65, Doseone, cLOUDDEAD, Deep Puddle Dynamics....

<<

I also want to set something straight.  Hip-hop is a culture.  Rapping is just one part of hip-hop.  In the beginning, hip-hop encompassed  turntablism, breakdancing, and tagging (graffiti) in addition to MC'ing.  I guess it's up to each of you to decide where the scene is at today.    

It's a shame the current mainstream R&B/pop/rap stuff has to sound the way it does.
Thanks a lot, Clear Channel.  Thanks a bunch, big record company execs.


dO-(=(


Title: Re: most main streme music sucks
Post by: Robert on July 30, 2004, 12:08:37 AM
 alright all main stream stuff mostly sucks like all the alteritive stuff all the rap and hip hop under ground is the way to go !!!!!!


Title: Re: Crap sucks
Post by: Bheliom on July 30, 2004, 01:42:08 AM
Quote
I also want to set something straight. Hip-hop is a culture. Rapping is just one part of hip-hop. In the beginning[...]

The opposite is the case! Hip-Hop derived from R.A.P. NOT the other way arround ;)



Title: Re: Crap sucks
Post by: zephyr on July 30, 2004, 10:37:14 PM
?


Title: Re: Crap sucks
Post by: Dirty South Hip-Hop Head on August 03, 2004, 04:34:35 PM
Sorry pal, but you have no idea what you're talking about.  Zephyr is right, rap is just a part of HIP-HOP, which is basically urban culture.  Hip-hop isn’t and never was a music genre, and it certainly didn’t ‘derive’ from rap.  That’s ridiculous.    

‘Rap is something you do.  Hip-Hop is something you live’ – KRS-One  

I’D also like to point out that hip-hop is more than just the four elements (taggin’, breakin’, rhymin’, and DJin’).  It’s the way we talk, the clothes we wear, our views, our communities, our lifestyle, and our people.  I wish people would stop saying our entire culture is limited to talking into a microphone, writing unreadable scribblez on walls, and scratching up records.  If so, then our culture is a shallow one.  Ya know?

Record companies force mainstream artists to throw out crappy singles about jewelry, shooting people, and club-hopping.  But in the end, it's just entertainment.  Music is there to entertain.  If I wanted knowledge I’d read a book.  Music is made to sound good, and to get people dancing.  And rap accomplishes this.

There are plenty types of rap.  The mixtape ‘street’ punchline rapper (Lloyd Banks, Cassidy, Joe Budden), the intellectual punchline rapper (Canibus, Chino XL), the political rappers (Dead Prez, Public Enemy), instrument-usin’ rappers (N*E*R*D*, The Roots, Linkin’ Park), mainstream ‘pop’ rappers (Nelly, Chingy, Loon), bling-bling rapper (Cash Money, No Limit), talented veteran rappers (Nas, Jay-Z, Outkast, Method Man), comedy rappers (Ludacris, Redman), angst-ridden emo-rap (Atmosphere), gangsta rap (NWA), and many more types.

Basically, there are so many types of rap that anyone can enjoy, but some people are so blind in their hate that they can only see what’s on the surface.  But that’s cool.  We already got enough fake hip-hop heads (wiggers) as it is.


Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: mr. henry on August 04, 2004, 08:34:43 PM
barbershop quartets suck



Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: tyler on August 07, 2004, 04:43:49 AM
How to begin? I'll start out by releasing my anger in the form of speach:
RAPPERS ARE ASS-HUMPING DUMBNUTS WHO DO NOTHING AND GET PAID! WHEN I WAS 10 I DID MORE WORK THEN THEM WHAT IS WRONG WITH SOCIETY GARRRR! SOMDAY WE WILL OBLITIRATE ALL THE DUMBASSES IN THIS PLANET (including the NY Yankees) AND MAYBE ALL HUMANS SO THESE MORORIC FLESHLINGS WILL NEVER TROUBLE US AGAIN! BWA HA HA! PERPARE FOR JUDGEMENT FLESHLINGS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA!
ah-hem. Sorry.
Here are some reasons (not only about the music) that proves rap is gay:
1: big rappers claim they live in the ghetto, and yet they make around 5.3 million a year, have 6 times their body weight in jewlrey, and own huge mansions and 20 cars. Hmmmm.
2.one way racism.
Fact: rappers say rasism is bad and the K.K.K should be dispanded. (Duh. K.K.K sucks.)
Fact: rappers also say: whites are lesser to blacks. Hmmmm...
3.treat women like garbage. Way to get laid. Maybe you want to, but not by a chick.
4.basketball: hey, let work out and not wear shirts and run around with 5 other  identical males.
5. bad steryotype for the working (no, raps not work) black. Through the media, most whites view blacks as, well, the things discussed above, so most can't get jobs anywhere but s**tty medial work for old rich white men. So:
generally anti-white rap+real blacks= $whites$
I rest my case. Rap is literally gay and tratourous. I'm p**sed, so now I'll work on my world domination plans. Bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha(crackly) Haaaaaaaaaaaaa...


Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: mr. henry on August 07, 2004, 11:39:03 AM
mouth harps and harmonicas suck



Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: JohnL on August 10, 2004, 10:17:47 PM
Vacuums suck!


Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: mr. henry on August 11, 2004, 11:26:33 AM
JohnL wrote:

> Vacuums suck!


touche!!!!!!!

french horns suck!!!!!!

;)



Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: JohnL on August 11, 2004, 09:22:46 PM
>french horns suck!!!!!!

French horns blow!!!!!


Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: G on August 12, 2004, 11:53:05 AM
Naw, the real rap music doesn't suck. I don't consider the stuff you see on MTV to be called rap because it doesn't deserve the title. The real rap music which is good, are these artists worth listening to: Nas, Gang Starr, Common, Run DMC (The Godfathers of Rap), A Tribe Called Quest, De la Soul, Old School Snoop and Dre, Inspectah Deck, GZA, Ice Cube and the old Bone Thugs N Harmony and all the (GOOD) Underground stuff. These rappers don't rap about bling-bling, derogatory words for women, and expensive candy painted cars. For example Nas raps about knowledge, Common raps about life, and these rappers only use the f and s word only when it's needed, not like rappers today who over use the f and s word. The beats are completely different as well, Old School Snoop and Dre and Bone Thugs use old samples of G-Funk, Nas and Gangstarr have true rap cuts and beats, Common and a Tribe Called Quest rap to jazz beats, while the so-called rap in the mainstream have a live pop beat into it which makes it suck even more. These un-talented artists right here are not rappers and these artist give rap a bad name which makes alot of people hate rap: P. Diddy, Lil Flip and all the other rappers with the name Lil, 50 Cent, Ja Rule, Petey Pablo, Chingy, Nelly, Trick Daddy, all that Down South Garbage, and 99% of the mainstream. That stuff is not rap music and it's an insult to rap if you called those artists rappers. I hate when people say today that A Tribe Called Quest, Common, Nas, and Gang Starr are not good because they don't rap about b***hes, hoes, jewelry, clothing, money, fancy cars, and apperance. In the so called-rap mainstream you have to be ugly like Petey Pablo, have no talent, claim to live the life of a fake thug and sell millions of albums bought by posers to have MTV and radio air play. In the words by Guru of Gang Starr, "A lot of rappers be like one time wonders, Couldn't say a fly rhyme if there was one right under their noses, I hate those motherf**kin posers", and "The so-called rap music today shouldn't be called rap music".



Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: Susan on August 12, 2004, 08:25:35 PM
She's gone from suck to blow!

(http://datacore.sciflicks.com/spaceballs/images/spaceballs_large_15.jpg)



Sorry, way off topic here but i can't believe this thread is still alive ;-)



Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: Ash on August 12, 2004, 10:00:19 PM
Listen to THIS (http://datacore.sciflicks.com/spaceballs/sounds/spaceballs_suck.wav)



Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: JohnL on August 15, 2004, 09:50:09 AM
>Naw, the real rap music doesn't suck.

All rap sucks. It's the way it sounds more than the words. It's not music it's just chanting set to a drum beat. If you like that, fine, but I can't stand the sound of it. It makes me want to punch someone.

>Sorry, way off topic here but i can't believe this thread is still alive ;-)

Pretty soon, it'll achieve ludicrous speed!


Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: G on August 15, 2004, 10:17:25 PM
Hey JohnL. I see what's wrong. I'm not going to say anything offensive against you but what I see is that you dislike rap because it's not your thing. But just because you dislike it doesn't mean rap sucks. Everyone has the right to their own opinions and I respect your opinion that you don't like it and everyone else who likes it or not. But what I am trying to say is just because you don't like it, it doesn't mean the music  sucks. Music sucks only when it isn't acceptable as a sound, for example, like all those pop rappers (like the example I gave in my other message), that's not acceptable to rap which makes it suck.


Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: lk741u on August 16, 2004, 12:43:04 AM
The only rap I have heard that was truly worth your while listening to is from the former rage against the machine. Also the only group I've seen remotly involving rap that actually involves any skill. Notably Tom Morello (guitars) who holds top spots in many of the world's guitar magizine's top guitarists of all time readers polls. Rap really needs to rely on lyrical content quality since no voice skills other than the ability to talk are generally (big umbrella again) needed. Maybe rappers should try to be poets since thats all they are, I doubt they will get any respect or sales when all they have is their simple lines to rely on.


Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: Andrew 10001 on August 16, 2004, 01:36:44 PM
Your a f**kin faggot n need a box cutter sliced across ur cabbage im rabid n sadistic Im on some mad s**t that cant be pinned by no satistic I flip s**t like night of the living dead takin twin pistols drag um cross ur temple now ur dead See if i give a f**k about influnce me 24/7 im violent n truent.  So if u can claim rap sucks I can claim i seen u lap nuts off male sluts who take to the butt n cuffs.  You want an example ill give you one werent u raped by gods only son ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. snap
I hate most mainstream rap but most of all I hate peetz post so lame who is he to make any comment about an industry that could buy his mom a million trailers.  Talk about something that really matters like the fedral deficit or that time i donkey punched peetz mom for a tic tac lol. COMPTON. BROOKLYN WHAT WHAT KNOW WHAT IM SAYIN MY N***ERS!


Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: Kory on August 16, 2004, 11:04:44 PM
Where the $#&! did you come from?


Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: Susan on August 20, 2004, 07:42:12 PM
a middle school somewhere in suburbia is my guess



Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: mr. henry on August 20, 2004, 08:18:33 PM
bagpipes suck



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Title: Re: Crap sucks
Post by: Indeed on August 31, 2004, 02:12:14 PM
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NO TITS AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAHAHaBheliom wrote:

>
Quote
I also want to set something straight. Hip-hop is a
> culture. Rapping is just one part of hip-hop. In the
> beginning[...]

>
> The opposite is the case! Hip-Hop derived from R.A.P. NOT the
> other way arround ;)
>


Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: Indeed on August 31, 2004, 02:22:48 PM
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NOObtyler wrote:

> How to begin? I'll start out by releasing my anger in the form
> of speach:
> RAPPERS ARE ASS-HUMPING DUMBNUTS WHO DO NOTHING AND GET PAID!
> WHEN I WAS 10 I DID MORE WORK THEN THEM WHAT IS WRONG WITH
> SOCIETY GARRRR! SOMDAY WE WILL OBLITIRATE ALL THE DUMBASSES IN
> THIS PLANET (including the NY Yankees) AND MAYBE ALL HUMANS SO
> THESE MORORIC FLESHLINGS WILL NEVER TROUBLE US AGAIN! BWA HA
> HA! PERPARE FOR JUDGEMENT FLESHLINGS
> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA!
> ah-hem. Sorry.
> Here are some reasons (not only about the music) that proves
> rap is gay:
> 1: big rappers claim they live in the ghetto, and yet they make
> around 5.3 million a year, have 6 times their body weight in
> jewlrey, and own huge mansions and 20 cars. Hmmmm.
> 2.one way racism.
> Fact: rappers say rasism is bad and the K.K.K should be
> dispanded. (Duh. K.K.K sucks.)
> Fact: rappers also say: whites are lesser to blacks. Hmmmm...
> 3.treat women like garbage. Way to get laid. Maybe you want to,
> but not by a chick.
> 4.basketball: hey, let work out and not wear shirts and run
> around with 5 other  identical males.
> 5. bad steryotype for the working (no, raps not work) black.
> Through the media, most whites view blacks as, well, the things
> discussed above, so most can't get jobs anywhere but s**tty
> medial work for old rich white men. So:
> generally anti-white rap+real blacks= $whites$
> I rest my case. Rap is literally gay and tratourous. I'm
> p**sed, so now I'll work on my world domination plans. Bwa ha
> ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha(crackly) Haaaaaaaaaaaaa...


Title: Hip-Hop is true talent...
Post by: Brownsta on September 01, 2004, 06:25:19 PM
unlike rock and punk and whatever hip-hop takes talent, i mean i could scream for 2:00 like in punk ,and im not saying ALL hip-hop is good and ALL rock is bad but ill tell to whats the good stuff in hip-hop

Good: Tech N9ne,Eazy-E,NWA,Eric B.&Rakim,Run-DMC,Gang Starr(TRU HIP-HOP ARTISTS),Tupac,Nas,Ludakrishna&MC Vikram(haha there pretty funny),Westside Connection,Kurupt,Biggie,Del the funkee homosapien(TRU HIP-HOP ARTIST),Hiero, all the good underground hip-hop artists

Bad s**tty crap that sucks balls:Eminem,almost any new thing 2000-2004,Lil' Flip,all them fake all rappers,any punk...

good songs:
NWA - Express Yourself
Gang Starr - Mass Apeal
Gang Starr - Make 'Em Pay
Gang Starr - Right Where You Stand
lots of gang starr stuff...
Ludakrishna - Welcome to India
Ludakrishna - Fobbed Out
Rakim - In the Ghetto
Rakim - Paid in Full
Coolio - Gangsta's Paradise
Tupac - Changes
Run-DMC - Sucker MC's
Kurupt - On Site
Kurupt-Trylogy


Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: Brownsta on September 01, 2004, 06:26:22 PM
unlike rock and punk and whatever hip-hop takes talent, i mean i could scream for 2:00 like in punk ,and im not saying ALL hip-hop is good and ALL rock is bad but ill tell to whats the good stuff in hip-hop

Good: Tech N9ne,Eazy-E,NWA,Eric B.&Rakim,Run-DMC,Gang Starr(TRU HIP-HOP ARTISTS),Tupac,Nas,Ludakrishna&MC Vikram(haha there pretty funny),Westside Connection,Kurupt,Biggie,Del the funkee homosapien(TRU HIP-HOP ARTIST),Hiero, all the good underground hip-hop artists

Bad s**tty crap that sucks balls:Eminem,almost any new thing 2000-2004,Lil' Flip,all them fake all rappers,any punk...

good songs:
NWA - Express Yourself
Gang Starr - Mass Apeal
Gang Starr - Make 'Em Pay
Gang Starr - Right Where You Stand
lots of gang starr stuff...
Ludakrishna - Welcome to India
Ludakrishna - Fobbed Out
Rakim - In the Ghetto
Rakim - Paid in Full
Coolio - Gangsta's Paradise
Tupac - Changes
Run-DMC - Sucker MC's
Kurupt - On Site
Kurupt-Trylogy


Title: Re: Rap sucks
Post by: jimmyd on October 10, 2004, 09:43:42 PM
brownsta, try playing a guitar and compair the noise you make to the music of say,  guns and roses, or motorhead, or pantera and then tell me about how rock doesn't take talent