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I keep thinking fire or light is in the title...

Anywho, I remember that this was suppose to make us feel bad for "probbed" victims...like they were violated and it truly f**ked them up mentaly.

But as I see it, they really didn't do anything all THAT bad.  Sure it would be a freaky experience, but what harm really came to any of them physically?  To all the probbed victims out there, I say to remember those times when you ripped the legs off the daddylong legs, or poured salt on a leach, or pulled wings off an insect just to SEE what would happen....and then be thankful they didn't do that to you!

Man, like we aren't hypocrites!  The bigger and "intelligent" life is better so we can turture, probe, even kill all the "weaker" lifeforms.  I say they got off real easy with a stinking probe and a needle in the eye that didn't even hurt.  Get over it man or at least let it be a lesson in how you treat our life forms here on earth.

Hey, they could have slaughtered you and served you up for din din.

Ah, well, just an observation.

Are you thinking of "Fire in the Sky"??

Yep...I was also thinking of "Fire In the Sky" starring D.B. Sweeney.

yup, that's it!  I remember what the video cover looked like cuz when it was a new release, I worked at Blockbuster and came upon it many many times.  It was so long ago that I could only remeber fire or light in the title.

Thanks!

Fire In The Sky is a pretty good flick from what I remember.  Porbably need to hunt it down sometime.



As for your first post about why are people traumatized after situations like this; I seriously hope you are kidding.  If aliens do exist, I would like to see you get abducted, tested, and then come out of it normal and cheery.  I have a feeling that the whole situation would screw me up.

well...ummm...yeah of course I was using sarcasm and humor.  But on a grand scheme of things...you can see the point.  We see nothing wrong with pulling wings, legs, or torturing animals for scientific study for the future benefit of mankind....so let us then turn the tables...how do we know that their studies and probing wasn't for the future benefit of the universe???? Hmmmmmmmmm

In actuality humans do far worse to other humans.  The only thing that f**ks us up more is it's because it was aliens and no one believes them.  If another human stripped me, probbed me, stuck a needle in my eye and then let me go...sure I would have a few issues with that, but really, it wouldn't be the end of the world, and I would get over it.  It's all in the mind...don't let it control you...you control it.  So it happened, deal and move on.  I have been through some horrble s**t, and frankly, I wonder if getting probbed by an alien would be any worse if not AS worse.  The only thing that would make it WORSE is tpeople telling me it was a figment of my imagination and trying to convince me I was insane

I agree that the fact that nobody would believe you would make the situation horrible.  That might actually be worse than the probing itself.

I do agree that the aliens wouldn't be doing it just to be cruel.  I believe that they do it to study us as you said.  But somehow, that cold indifference is just as creepy as them doing it out of hate.

I was hoping that you were using sarcasim with your post.  Good to see that you were.  Sometimes it is hard to figure out one's tone when using the internet.

This was based on true incident. Travis Walton was supposedly abducted, but the police thought his brother-in-law and five other work mates had killed him and made the story up. They put them through hell trying to prove it.

Five days later he appears on a lonely highway naked at  a payphone, where he makes a collect call home.

I remember reading the story in Playboy back in the 70's when it happened.  The movie was filmed where the incident happened  and James Garner said something traumatic happened to these people and really screwed up their lives. Travis appears in a town meeting scene in the movie.  The man went without a phone in his house for 20 years to keep the nutballs from calling him.  

"It was many years ago that I got out of a crew truck in the national forest and ran toward a large glowing UFO hovering in the darkening Arizona sky. But when I made that fateful choice to leave the truck, I was leaving behind more than just my six fellow workmen. I was leaving behind forever all semblance of a normal life, running headlong toward an experience so overwhelmingly mind-rending in its effects, so devastating in its aftermath, that my life would never - could never - be the same again."

- Travis Walton -

You can be skeptical about such things, but you have to wonder. Evidently no one here has followed the UFO thing much.  If you have, I can tell who you are if  you can answer this question. Who was Jesse Marcel?

Roswell intelligence officer.

Thank god for google, eh? lol

There's also Communion, based on Whitley Strieber's account of his alien abduction.

>Evidently no one here has followed the UFO thing much.

I used to.

I don't know about aliens (but i do believe there are other lifeforms in the universe..duh) but i have seen a ufo up close. Me and a friend actually, i once mentioned it on another thread and i know it's one of those things that make people's eyes roll, as does mine. Many lights, then the thing went dark = when it was hovering for just a split second or two the underneath side of it was reflective of the sky or something. Then it shot off at light speed..lol I know it sounds crazy but i speculate it had something to do with the military because what are the odds that a bunch of military craft would suddenly end up flying in the area just minutes after...because that thing moved fast. I come from a military family, my brother worked on the base when the stealth bomber was top secret. u know the military works on things like this - altho i stil can't fathom that our technology is that advanced. the whole thing was just odd. And forever will be unexplained...filed away in the 'what the crap was that?' drawer of my memory.

my mother and a friend of hers were out one night and she said they saw one.  Shortly after, there was some helicopters around.  At least that was what I was told.  I told her that she must have been doing too much acid...lol.  But as much as there may be a reason not to believe, there really isn't any proof that it isn't possible.

You just never know...in fact I could be an alien talking to you right now... :)

The possibility that they do exist is very great....but I refuse to believe aliens exist until I see one.
I need proof.

I found an interesting article on Howstuffworks.com on how aliens might work.

GO HERE TO READ IT (http://science.howstuffworks.com/alien-physiology.htm)

What do you think?

There is "talk" about 'Black Helicopters' which are supposedly government choppers that have no markings, running lights, or sound. People say this is crap but I and a few others have seen one of these in a south-western city. It hovered over us and aside from a whooshing sound, there was nothing. Choppers for aliens and ufo's or just a way for the law to keep watch on people in cities? Who knows.

wish i could say what i saw was a chopper - but i got a real good look at it. plus choppers don't move the speed of light..lol

some comedian once was asking about why would aliens travel 4 billion light years to give us anal probes ;-)

As hard as it is to believe in UFO's & aliens, I can't dismiss the idea.  We as humans are very arrogant to think that in the ENTIRE UNIVERSE, our measly planet is the ONLY one that has intelligent life.

I don't think it is hard to believe at all.  There could be so much more than we realize or could even possibly phathom.  They say things about dimensions, worm holes, etc.  Everything we gain from our 5 sense may be so limited that other life forms have 8 or 10 senses.  They could possibly manipulate time and consciousness.  Perhaps they really don't need "flying saucers" to get around...maybe some of them

I truley think that there are all kinds of life forms.  Perhaps we are low on the scale, some below and some above us.

There are all kinds of possibilities.  And for some reason I feel that if we can imagine those possiblities it can open doors to a better understanding of how things work...like how Einstein discovered the theory of relativity.

Sorry Susan, my post on Black Helicopters was directed towards Loyal and her comment about her mother seeing helicopters after a "sighting". I didn't mean to trivialize your post about having seen something that you couldn't explain. Please accept my appologies if you thought that's what I was getting at.

If I ever want to do something with a helicopter that I want to keep secret, I'll just paint it black. Then no one will believe the witnesses, because everyone knows black helicopters aren't real! I think some people are less skeptical about anti-grav orbs from Andromeda than black helicopters, maybe because the helicopter thing has acquired a certain political flavor.

I've given quite a bit of thought to UFOs, and I think that the usual reasons for considering them highly unlikely to be alien spacecraft rest on some unsound assumptions, such as that each UFO would have to have made it's own seperate superluminal voyage from Zeta Reticuli or the Pleadies each time. Couldn't they have all come in one giant sub-light generation ship a million years ago and established bases all over the solar system? Or couldn't they even be native to Mars or Titan?

Odinn - i take very little personal..lol   Plus i'm always looking for a rational explanation.

Btw on the topic of "life elsewhere" - if there is i bet we'd never find eachother in this vast universe, life may exist but may not co-exist within th same time period and may be at different levels of evolution so that they're not going to know where we are and come see us.

I saw a great speech by some scientist and a slideshow. He showed our solar system and flipped to the next frame, then showing our galaxy...a spiralling mass of stars...tremendous! The entire picture was nothing but white glowing stars..billions of them.

 Then went on to explain that a galaxy contains roughly 200 billion stars (any of which could have life).  It was this great sense of awe looking at this mass realizing we were but just a speck and would never even travel the distance of our own galaxy. Then the next frame showed galaxy clusters..near eachother...spaced apart somewhat. Next frame was  once again loaded with what seemed like endless stars sprayed all over the universe..but they were each a galaxy taken from a long distance...each containing a possible 200 billion stars. Hubble estimates hundreds of billions of galaxies. It was really amazing to see it from that perspective. You suddenly feel quite small.

>I've given quite a bit of thought to UFOs, and I think that the usual reasons for
>considering them highly unlikely to be alien spacecraft rest on some unsound
>assumptions, such as that each UFO would have to have made it's own
>seperate superluminal voyage from Zeta Reticuli or the Pleadies each time.
>Couldn't they have all come in one giant sub-light generation ship a million years
>ago and established bases all over the solar system? Or couldn't they even be
>native to Mars or Titan?

Everyone knows that they have a base on the darkside of the moon. There have been a couple books about it;

Somebody Else is on the Moon (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0679506063/)
We Discovered Alien Bases on the Moon II (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0942176006/)

Also, I  have a file sitting on a disk, that I got off the net a long time ago, which claims to be the true account of a couple people who decided to go straight to NASA and check out the high-quality original photos. I have no idea if there's any truth to it, but they claimed that NASA first gave them the run-around for a couple days, then finally gave them access to the archives, but on the condition that they couldn't bring any writing implements or recorders. They had to ask for the photos by number (which they knew ahead of time) and then they were allowed to view the very large, high-quality original prints, which were described as being razor sharp and showing beyond any doubt, artificial structures on the moon's surface. According to the file, they memorized a few print numbers so that they could request prints through normal channels. Supposedly when the prints arrived, they were of much lower quality so that everything just looked like shadows or rocks.

I  can only promise one thing about the universe, we on earth don't know s**t about it. I don't think we have imagination big enough to comprehend it all.  The Voyager missions turned a lot of what scientists believed right on it's head.