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I mean...guys like Spock and Bones, for example.
Where would James T. Kirk be without them?
What other sidekicks do you have a soft spot for?

We know how many Kennys we loath...but what about the heroic assistants? Who would we like to have covering our back when the Aliens invaders/serial killers/monsters, ect, come callin'?

Even though he was often used for comic relief, I liked Smiley Burnette as a cowboy sidekick. He frequently worked with Gene Autry, but I liked him when he worked with Sunset Carson. In CALL OF THE ROCKIES (one of my favorites), Smiley was as much a part of the story as Sunset and as much a hero. When the two of them worked together, there was both a sense of humor as well an intelligence to their interactions. Why did they call him Sunset? Because when he hit you, you only saw nighttime and stars (heh..heh).

That thing in that guys hand from Vampire Hunter D

Goose in MAD MAX.

Actually, I think that the Feral kid from Mad Max 2 (aka Road Warrior) was more of a sidekick that Goose. I mean, Goose's character pulled a friggen gun on him when Max showed up. (Actually, it could've been a crossbow... meh.)

I mean from the first movie MAD MAX. Officer Jim Goose who rode a cycle and was Max's partner. He was set on fire when his truck rolled.

Oh OHHH, Now I get ya. Sorry. Got him mixed up with Bruce Spence. Sorry.

Donkey in Shrek, Dory in Finding Nemo, Sid the Sloth in Ice Age, uhhh wait a minute.

Okay, so I have a 2 yr. old; You  guys see the kinds of movies I'v been watching lately.

;)

Come to think of it though Bruce Spence did sort of turn out to be a sidekick at points in Road Warrior. The whole "We're Partners" thing and how he comes to save max tward the end of the movie and all. Max sorta had 2 sidekicks throughout the movie, even though the kid was more like a dirty Robin to Max's Batman. I guess you could support any argument though depending on how you look at it.  

The Goose is a badass. Just had to be said.

How about the hunchback in "Captain Chronos, Vampire Hunter".  He was the one who did all the non-fighting work... carrying stuff, knowing lore, forging the holy sword, etc.  
Or Kris Kristofferson in Blade?  
-Ed

You guys are looking at this all wrong...The Gyro Captain, the Feral Kid, neither of these guys was the side kick for Max really. You're overlooking "Dog", the trusty companion who did numerous things to help out Max. He attacked the Gyro Captain and gave Max the upper hand and ability to pull a knife out and hold it to the GC's neck. He held a bone that was attached to a wire which was attached to the trigger on the sawed-off that was pointing at the GC's head in the car. He even gave his life to allow Max a chance after they crashed the Falcon. Dog, was the real sidekick.
Though I do have to agree that the Goose was da man in the first movie.

But the Gyro Captain did save Max's life.

Ahh, that makes 3 sidekicks. I guess in the wasteland you need all the sidekicks you can get.

Well, let's see:


MAD MAX

Goose



THE ROAD WARRIOR

The Dog
The Feral Kid
The Gyro Captain



MAD MAX: BEYOND THUNDERDOME

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Hey, does Master Blaster count (:

Okay, I'll bite.

How 'bout the car?  Max was nuthin' without the supercharged V-8.  The car was awesome.

So, the score currently stands:

Mad Max:

Goose
Car

Road Warrior:

The Feral Kid
Gyro Captain
Dog
Car

Beyond Thunderdome:

{never saw it}

Max was truly a loner in MAD MAX: BEYOND THUNDERDOME, he didn't even have the car.

Considering that he had three cars in MAD MAX, does that really count?

The car was destroyed in THE ROAD WARRIOR.

He did have his trusty sawed-off.

Now ,now...much as i like good gadgets, unless it has an A.I. like KITT, i'll not allow it.
A good sidekick can argue and fuss, but he/she'll still back up the hero when the fertilizer hits the ventilator.
KITT does that...a Max's shotgun, while usefull, does not.
If it ain't earning a paycheck from the studio, i say "No fair."

How about the motorcycle in Warrior Of The Lost World then? The one that repeated everything in that cutsey voice (Einstein?)

Great...

I've started up an argument on Mad Max.

s**t...

I could argue long and hard all day on Mad Max and Road Warrior but you are right Jack, this thread has gone slightly off kilter.

So, Flange, we can't count the sawed-off or the Falcon but 'Dog' is still in, right?

Right! The Bike from W of the L W is okey, cause it had a mind of its own...a very ANNOYING mind...but a mind nonetheless.
Dog is cool too. I'm a dog person, and i say, a liveing sidekick is Kosher...even if he does lick his butt.

In Beyond Thunderdome he picked up the kids, and the slave from the pit :"Pig Killer".  The crazy kid with the face paint could be a sidekick.
-Ed

Dont forget the monkey that throws him the boots.

That brings up an interesting point however. Is KITT really the sidekick of Michael Knight or is Michael Knight really the sidekick of KITT.

Listen now...there's no call for even mentioning Beyond Thunderdome...what did I ever do to you? I hated that movie and it shouldn't even be counted as part of the other 2. Tina Turner? No cars? Annoying kids? Bruce Spence in similar yet different part? Angry midgets turned to good? No cars? Train chase instead of car chase? Wimpy Max character? Did I mention no cars? What the Hell where they thinking? I gotta go vomit.

Beyond Thunderdome is deffinately a bad movie. Despite my screen name I'm not a big fan of Beyond Thunderdome. It's sorta the big budget cheezy one that ruined Mad Max. Captain Walker and all those p***y kids can lick my butt.

Viiviiiiviiiddddeeeoooo SHADDAAPP!!

                                            BEYOND THUNDERDOME


Does that help? (:

Monkeys as sidekicks don't count.  I personally think there should be a movie with a smart monkey/car/mororcycle and a stupid human sidekick.  
-Ed

Ed wrote:

> Monkeys as sidekicks don't count.  I personally think there
> should be a movie with a smart monkey/car/mororcycle and a
> stupid human sidekick.  
> -Ed


They did that one. It's called ANY WHICH WAY BUT LOOSE (:



Post Edited (02-03-05 14:14)

The librarian...er..Clyde counts!
He was a better actor then SOME i can name!......

Great...

A day later and we're STILL arguing about Mad Max...


By the way, what's the best thing you think is done in each Mad Max movie?

MAD MAX: The chained to the bomb bit at the end. (Don't want to spoil it for people that haven't seen it yet)

MAD MAX 2: ANYTHING in the finale counts.

BEYOND THUNDERDOME: Master Blaster and Max in Thunderdome.

MAD MAX: (aside from Goose) biker versus semi

THE ROAD WARRIOR: Humongous's introduction

BEYOND THUNDERDOME (aside from Master Blaster) the end credits (:

Those suggestions ain't so bad.

Wow.  Came in late on this one, not gonna read all the posts, sorry if this is a repeat:  Dick Dirken from Split Second.

No, it's not a repeat, we've kind of been stuck on MAD MAX.

Harley and Dick do make a good team. To the point that it would have been interesting to see them come back in another movie.

WHAT HAVE I DONE?!!?

I HAVE CREATED A MONSTER!!!!!


(weeping noises)

Sorry, we've just come out of a heatwave, and I'm a little tired.

Sorry about the huge gap gag.

My favorite sidekick was the guy from the original "Around the World in Eighty Days" film. At the end, I thought: what a crappy ending, to let the English guy have the girl just because he's English. Not only did the sidekick rescue the girl and do nearly all the work, but the girl was from India and the sidekick looked more like the tan-skinned guy you'd think most girls from her part of the world would want to marry. Multiracial marriages are fine by me, but make the guy work for it, already! If he won't, then let his handsome sidekick have the girl.

Hey! That ain't too bad, Writer.

HEY! I thought we were talking about Mad Max and Road Warrior here...What are you guys doing changing the subject?

Mad Max; Max's introduction in the Interceptor

Road Warrior: The whole movie...this movie is like a religious experience for me.

Beyond Thunderdome: My favorite part of this was when I was forcibly removed from the theater for being slightly p**sed off.

OK, seriously, carry on with the real topic...I will even try to add a combination here...
How about Arnold and that stupid kid in T2...oh, don't get me started.

Mad Max: So many good car accidents, but I gotta go with the handcuff bit as well. It gives me a chubby.

Mad Max2: Anything Wez does or says. That was a man with character.

Beyond Thunderdome: Well the Blaster fight of course. Everything got kinda crappy after that.

That made me think of Bruce Lee in the Green Hornet. I forget his name, but I remember he was supposed to be the sidekick, but he pretty much stole tha show.

He played Kato.  Actually that 'round the world suggestion bought him to mind for me too.  He was a definite sidekick (houseboy and all)  but there was pretty much equality once the masks are on.  I guess you can't be familiar with the help until you can't see their eyes.  
Hey anyone ever see that Mad Max movie?  

Heh heh.
-Ed

"Hey anyone ever see that Mad Max movie?"

What? They made a Mad Max movie? When? Why aren't we discussing this?

Hey, does Max's wife count as a sidekick?

No.

Sexist  (:

No, I just wouldn't consider her to be a sidekick, thats all. I'm not being sexist.

Am I the only one who hated #1 more than #3? The part that epitomizes #1 for me is the bald guy getting all flustered and says "PEOPLE DON'T BELEIVE IN HERO'S ANYMORE MAX!!!!" Maybe I just wasn't paying enough attention because it was sucking so hard, but that line seemed like a total non-sequitor to me. Maybe my problem is that I saw the best one first, or that I usually find these revenge things unsatisfactory. The revenge guy never even tortures the biker guys for a month or anything, their suffering never approaches that of the hero.

Favorite moment in #2: Closing narraration: "He lives now, only in my memories".

Favorite line in #3: "Who rules Bartertown?"

I kind of liked #3, except for the music parts, and the parts that didn't make any sense, and the cutesy parts, and the Tina Turner parts, and the abrupt ending, and the Thunderdome Caberet announcer guy, and the part with the little kids who remember stuff that should have happened before they were born and have a belief system based on thinking that Max is some airplane pilot (so you keep thinking, wait, was there something in the backstory about him being a pilot, or looking exactly like a guy who's a pilot, and exactly how long did it take all of the adult people to use up all the gas, forget how to make gunpowder, and revert 2000 years, while these kids still remember stuff about Epcot Center, etc?), the portentious "we think this old vinyl record, See'N'Say, Donald Duck doll, etc, is a sacred relic stuff...........

Cantiflas is the name of the actor/sidekick to David Niven in Around the World in 80 Days -- Cantiflas is considered as important as Chaplin in the Spanish-speaking world -- I can catch his early comedies on our numerous local Spanish-only TV stations, but they talk so damn fast I can never follow what's going on.
Nigel Bruce to Basil Rathbone's Holmes -- Bruce played Watson as a bit of a bumbling twit, which was not true to the books at all, but very effective cinema.
Huntz Hall to Leo Gorcey -- East Side Kids
Mighty Manfred to Tom Terrific
Chumley the Walrus to Tennessee Tuxedo
Fred to Superchicken
Ape to George
Eddie "Rochester" Robinson to Jack Benny
Artemus Gordon to James West
In all of the above examples, the sidekick is frequently more interesting and lively than the so-called "hero" or star.
Anyway, these are my faves --
peter johnson/denny crane

Fred to Superchicken

"You knew the job was dangerous when you took it"

You don't mean that. I got your plan figured out; you're trying to earn points toward Buffy's next Top Five list.

Nope she had "Designated Victim" written all over her, sorry.
-Ed

You mentioned Holmes and Watson... The TV Edward Hardwicke's Watson was a true useful sidekick.  He wasn't brilliant, but he was at least useful.  I found the Watson in the Basil rathbone Holme, almost offensive.
-Ed

Yes, both Edward Hardwicke and the other actor who played opposite Jeremy Brett as Holmes were both true to the Canon --
I still liked Nigel Bruce, though, especially since Rathbone's Holmes wasn't supposed to be "true" to Conan Doyle.
peter johnson/denny crane

Phew!

We're FINALLY off Mad Max.


Okay, It's from the Novel, but I reckon that Gennaro in Jurassic Park (book) was a sort-of sidekick to Muldoon.
Who's read the book? Or am I just alone?

Do you suppose Goose (MAD MAX) had a twin brother?

Whoa...comeback time.



Goose Rules

Yes, I'm glad we were finally able to get off the Mad Max talk and get back to the topic at hand.

Menard? That's 'The Goose', got it?

Nah, guys, who's read Jurassic Park and thought Gennaro was a sidekick to Muldoon?

Wasn't he the big wrestler who led the bandits in the wasteland... Oh thats Max again.   Oh, oh wait... maybe the Bartertown Guard with the Kibuki Mask on a stick?  

In all seriousness...I thought Generro and Muldoon were in "The Lost World"?  Or I am totally misrembering the storyline.  
-Ed

In TREMORS, which one would be the sidekick, Val or Earl?


And does anybody think they would have been good sidekicks for MAD MAX?  (:

How about Billy Cole, sidekick to Jerry Dandridge in "Fright Night."  Everyone should have a sidekick that can get up after being shot in the head.

Val was the sidekick in Tremors. (Was it Kevin Bacon? I can't check; our video shop moved and I haven't found it since.)

>Val was the sidekick in Tremors. (Was it Kevin Bacon? I can't check; our video
>shop moved and I haven't found it since.)

Just go to the Internet Movie Database (http://imdb.com).

Thanks for the help, JohnL.