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Title: Mechs or monsters for world domination?
Post by: Flangepart on July 07, 2005, 05:25:24 PM
The "Prototype" thread got me to thinkin'...
If you were gonna take over the world...would you try to use robots, or geneticly grown monsters?
 By that i mean....".Aliens", or "Terminators"?

Personaly, i think either is problimatical...
Both A.I., or liveing being, can go rogue, and then your on feces lake with a leaky raft!
Me? I'd try to build battle suits, and hire good mercs...
Wait...then i'd have to worry about renegotiating the contract! Arghhh!...
man, its just so tough to take over the woild, ain't it?



Title: Re: Mechs or monsters for world domination?
Post by: Shadowphile on July 07, 2005, 06:49:01 PM
Robots face the EMP problem, but are on the whole cheaper to feed.....


Title: Re: Mechs or monsters for world domination?
Post by: LH-C on July 07, 2005, 06:51:01 PM
I'm going to have to go with mecha.



Title: Re: Mechs or monsters for world domination?
Post by: odinn7 on July 07, 2005, 06:54:33 PM
How about cybernetic aliens? The best of both worlds! Certainly I'd go with terminator type machines but I would have a destruct feature built into them that if they got outta line, I could pop them and not worry about it.



Title: Re: Mechs or monsters for world domination?
Post by: dean on July 07, 2005, 09:56:03 PM

Personally I would defer all responsibility to my subordinates [who are quite rash and irresponsible] so that whenever they fail I can make a big speech about how they have lost my faith in them and proceed to drop them in a tank of acid, all the while hoping that noone notices that I do bugger all around the place.

And whilst mechs or monsters are a pretty nasty combo for world domination, I would just go for the whole 'destroy the whole planet's population and start afresh with an easily manageable population of half animal, half human slaves'

This would, of course, be achieved via tainting the world's cola supply with a mind bending chemical agent which gives the consumer an irrepressible urge to watch The Trial of Billy Jack over and over again ala Alex in a Clockwork Orange.

Ah, the wonders of science...



Title: Re: Mechs or monsters for world domination?
Post by: Wence on July 08, 2005, 10:11:37 AM
How about Aliens from "Inner Earth"?
Those Aliens some twisted conspiracy-freax believe in that they have rescued Adolf Hitler with their Aryan UFOs (Type VRIL-7).
They live in the Inner Earth, where they have UFO-bases as well ass highly developed technology and weapons.
They are blond, blue-eyed and two to three metres tall. Their greatest enemies are the GREYs (those Roswell Aliens) and Outer Earth Conspirators (governments). That would be a cool plot for a new big budget movie, wouldn´t it?



Title: Re: Mechs or monsters for world domination?
Post by: odinn7 on July 08, 2005, 10:36:42 AM
"Those Aliens some twisted conspiracy-freax believe in that they have rescued Adolf Hitler with their Aryan UFOs (Type VRIL-7)."

Huh? You mean you don't believe that? Wow...I thought everyone believed that one.



Title: Re: Mechs or monsters for world domination?
Post by: AndyC on July 08, 2005, 11:16:17 AM
Hmmmm. Robots are definitely more controllable. I mean, they can malfunction, become self-aware and so forth, but generally, they are built to be programmed and/or controlled.

Living monsters are much more problematic. You have animal instincts to overcome. They're generally either dumb brutes who don't know friend from foe or they are intelligent enough to think for themselves and perhaps even resent you for making them what they are. You can try mind control, but that always fails, and they generally get really p**sed off at you when it does.

Definitely machines for me. Although, if you look at the movies, they don't really have any better track record, in terms of world domination.

Then again, there was Collossus. He won. And there was the Dark One, who lost in the end, but managed to rule for some time with an army of two robots, some sock puppets and a giant spider leg. Oh, and a chick with big boobs. So, machines have succeeded.



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Title: Re: Mechs or monsters for world domination?
Post by: odinn7 on July 08, 2005, 11:46:14 AM
Oh no...I mean...NOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo....
Look out for the Canadians everybody! AndyC has obviously put way too much thought into this to have just come up with it for this thread. He is planning world domination! Remember that MAME machine he is supposedly building for gaming? That's really a MAIM machine for controlling his robots! We're all doomed...



Title: Re: Mechs or monsters for world domination?
Post by: Fearless Freep on July 08, 2005, 11:55:27 AM
We're not doomed if we can get in on the ground floor of his plans....  :)



Title: Re: Mechs or monsters for world domination?
Post by: Wence on July 08, 2005, 12:54:17 PM
>> Hmmmm. Robots are difinitely more controllable.

Yes, but imagine fascist Alien troops, they would be very controllable, too.



Title: Re: Mechs or monsters for world domination?
Post by: Ed, Ego and Superego on July 08, 2005, 01:26:25 PM
Are undead minions entirely out of the question?  
-Ed


Title: Re: Mechs or monsters for world domination?
Post by: odinn7 on July 08, 2005, 01:57:44 PM
How about cybernetic undead aliens? What a combination! Oops, I hope I didn't give AndyC any ideas...



Title: Re: Mechs or monsters for world domination?
Post by: Derf on July 08, 2005, 04:06:19 PM
I would simply team up with a large-headed lab mouse; he might not succeed, but he'd never give up!

"What d'you want to do tonight, Brain?"
"The same thing we do every night, Pinky; try to take over the world."



Title: Re: Mechs or monsters for world domination?
Post by: Wence on July 08, 2005, 05:52:51 PM
"Zombie Brownskirts From Outer Space" - what a title!!!



Title: Re: Mechs or monsters for world domination?
Post by: AndyC on July 08, 2005, 06:23:54 PM
Yep, by this time next week, you'll all be eating poutine :)



Title: Re: Mechs or monsters for world domination?
Post by: Wence on July 08, 2005, 06:41:44 PM
PSI-control over all animals and plants! You could create a giant army...



Title: Re: Mechs or monsters for world domination?
Post by: Ed, Ego and Superego on July 08, 2005, 09:44:55 PM
Plants? What would that do, give terminal hay fever?  I vote undead.  Or barring that, cyborgs.

_Ed


Title: Re: Mechs or monsters for world domination?
Post by: BeyondTheGrave on July 09, 2005, 03:11:58 AM
What I would use for world domination: undead cyber ninja midgets. Nuff said.

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Title: Re: Mechs or monsters for world domination?
Post by: Flangepart on July 11, 2005, 05:26:45 PM
Not nessarily. Thats a grey area, kinda like cyborgs. They blend the best, and worst, ot both methods.



Title: Re: Mechs or monsters for world domination?
Post by: Master Blaster on July 11, 2005, 05:38:23 PM
Your undead cyber ninja midgets would be no match for my Vampire Warewolf Jackal Monkeys!!!


Title: Re: Mechs or monsters for world domination?
Post by: Georgie Boy on July 12, 2005, 07:12:46 AM
My plan actually calls for robots.

PRO
1.  They can be mass produced and will cost less to build as time goes on.
2.  When destroyed, no retraining is necessary.
3.  They can be centrally controlled.
4.  They require no food.
5.  They require no gestation.
6.  Blind loyalty since they won't question their programing.

CON
1.  Raw material supply may grow short.
2.  Programing flaws and the fear of self awareness.
3.  Litter left by destroyed robots and the environmental impact.
4.  Need techies to program and repair.

Above all, I think Dean has the right idea in that I will have to recruit toadys that can take the fall for me if this plan goes wrong.


Title: Re: Mechs or monsters for world domination?
Post by: AndyC on July 12, 2005, 07:24:06 AM
And you guys thought I put too much thought into this.

We can probably add one more advantage to machines over monsters. Machines are less likely to develop a crush on the hero's girlfriend, which is always problematic.



Title: Re: Mechs or monsters for world domination?
Post by: AndyC on July 12, 2005, 07:25:37 AM
Master Blaster wrote:

> Your undead cyber ninja midgets would be no match for my
> Vampire Warewolf Jackal Monkeys!!!

Or dogs with bees in their mouths, so when they bark, they shoot bees at you!



Title: Re: Mechs or monsters for world domination?
Post by: Ed, Ego and Superego on July 12, 2005, 01:23:59 PM
And those Asimov's laws...makes it hard to really terrorize the populace if they cannot harm human.  But maybe I buy the wrong robots.   Once I got a bunch of cymbal playing windup monkeys.  Never dominate on the cheap.
-Ed


Title: Re: Mechs or monsters for world domination?
Post by: Yaddo 42 on July 12, 2005, 01:27:33 PM
Didn't you ever seen "The Hellstrom Chronicle" and "Phase IV", or read "One Human Minute" by Stanislaw Lem. Insects!!! Insects are where it's at! Trillions of locust-like critters or endless armies of ants capable of destroying any nation's resources or overwhelming any armed force and endless replaceable. Not even giant bugs, just lots of regular sized ones.

Although personally I prefer the Dr. Mabuse method of world domination involving overly complicated methods of mind control of minions (the better to control leaders or build armies of cannon fodder), freaky invisability belts, and waves of high profile crimes to cover for power grabs and other elaborate far reaching schemes. And from a style standpoint you can't beat running all of this from inside the walls of an insane asylum.


Title: Re: Mechs or monsters for world domination?
Post by: Ed, Ego and Superego on July 12, 2005, 02:05:43 PM
OOOH, insects.  Very good.  and cheap.
-Ed


Title: Re: Mechs or monsters for world domination?
Post by: Zapranoth on July 12, 2005, 10:31:16 PM
Nanites.

AND sock puppets.

And the little "eat up the flying dots" mind control video game from Star Trek TNG!

Umlimited powerrr!!!