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Title: (Not so) Fantastic Four
Post by: Bmeansgood on July 10, 2005, 04:35:19 PM
I was very dissappointed in this movie.  I went opening night with medium expectations and came out very dissappointed.  I don't know what could have saved it.  I think Jessica Alba and whomever played Reed Richards were just really poor casting choices.  The script also wasn't very good and the character of Doom was awful.  The thing and human torch were entertaining, so I guess 2 out of 5 isn't bad.

But I am a sucker for Marvel comic book movies so I am sure I will go to the next one.  Hopefully Ghostrider will be good next year.


Title: Re: (Not so) Fantastic Four
Post by: BeyondTheGrave on July 10, 2005, 05:00:36 PM
I liked the flim. I felt the only week link was Doom  could have done alittle better but besides that I though it was good. I thought Jessica Alba was going to be bad but I though see put on a decent performence. I have been hearing that people have been going splits on the movie. You either love/hate and I though it was good.

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Title: Re: (Not so) Fantastic Four
Post by: odinn7 on July 10, 2005, 06:18:38 PM
Yeah, and I heard that the only time Alba gets naked is when she's invisible...



Title: Re: (Not so) Fantastic Four
Post by: dean on July 11, 2005, 03:40:56 AM

I enjoyed this film; it was an entertaining bit of fluff and that's it.

That's it really; not really needed to go to in cinemas, but it was nice.  Plus Jessica Alba is a bonus.

>>>Yeah, and I heard that the only time Alba gets naked is when she's invisible...

Well the film is rated PG here, which is the rating given to disney movies and such, so I wasn't expecting a flesh fest, but that being said, there were some quite nice moments with her in it anyway so I was happy.

It is a piece of pure hollywood fun, which I like everynow and then, but if you have an extreme dislike for the hollywood system, maybe it is not for you.



Title: Re: (Not so) Fantastic Four
Post by: LH-C on July 11, 2005, 10:25:45 AM
I haven't seen it, and I don't want to see it. I still can't believe Ioan Gruffudd got mixed up in this mess. He really is a superior actor, and yet from all accounts he comes across as if he can't act his way out of a paper bag. He needs to go back to the UK and forget about Hollywood because it's sucking all of the talent and ability out of him.



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Title: Re: (Not so) Fantastic Four
Post by: akiratubo on July 11, 2005, 11:39:06 AM
The trailer was so awful there's no way I'm getting near the whole movie.  I loves me the Dr. Doom and it looks like they completely s**tted him up.  (Sorry for being so blunt.)


Title: Re: (Not so) Fantastic Four
Post by: odinn7 on July 11, 2005, 02:45:19 PM
OK...so I gotta know...
My wife wants to see this movie whereas I don't really care if I see it now or on DVD. I will most likely be forced to see it in the theater so here is the ever important question:
Even though she doesn't get naked, will I be able to sit through the movie simply because Jessica Alba is in it?



Title: Re: (Not so) Fantastic Four
Post by: BeyondTheGrave on July 11, 2005, 03:00:34 PM
Odinn7 Its a decent movie thats watchable. You should be fine. I found it to be a "Hollywood summer popcorn" movie just with superheros in ti. I enjoyed it but I am into comics. I gave you a point of you from a movie fan not a fanboy of comics.

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Title: Re: (Not so) Fantastic Four
Post by: Master Blaster on July 11, 2005, 05:34:36 PM
I was in Dark Water with my wife and mother in law. Dark Water was like watching paint peel so I said I had to go to the bathroom and made my escape. I hopped over to Fantastic 4, saw about 5 minutes and figured I was no better off so I went back to Dark Water. Ugh, this is why I never go to the theatre.


Title: Re: (Not so) Fantastic Four
Post by: Blue.Brutal on July 14, 2005, 03:25:46 AM
I thought this movie was eye-candy and summer popcorn fare, but that's about it.  The only thing really bad about it is the way Dr. Doom was handled - he had style, I suppose, but in the comics, Dr. Doom once let the Fantastic Four go because in order to get them he would have had to destroy priceless art treasures.  He just doesn't have enough class in this movie.

The Thing, however, is great.  Chiklis was the perfect choice for the role as far as I can tell.  He's just freaking spectacular - and they did the wise-cracking ill-temered hero without CGI (JOY!).

Also, and this has bugged me for a while, why is it that although the skin-tight protective suits sip all the way to the neck on men, they only go up to about mid-sternum on women?  I mean, come on...



Title: Re: (Not so) Fantastic Four
Post by: odinn7 on July 14, 2005, 07:05:45 AM
"why is it that although the skin-tight protective suits sip all the way to the neck on men, they only go up to about mid-sternum on women? "

I wouldn't want it any other way.



Title: Re: (Not so) Fantastic Four
Post by: Blue.Brutal on July 14, 2005, 08:47:04 AM
odinn7 wrote:

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> I wouldn't want it any other way.
>

Well, I can see what you're saying here, but c'mon, man - for the sake of logic, can't women be allowed to zip up their body suits?

And, while we're on the subject (sort of) can anyone explain why Ripley's underware is so freaking tiny?



Title: Re: (Not so) Fantastic Four
Post by: odinn7 on July 14, 2005, 09:04:21 AM
"Well, I can see what you're saying here, but c'mon, man - for the sake of logic, can't women be allowed to zip up their body suits?"

No.

"And, while we're on the subject (sort of) can anyone explain why Ripley's underware is so freaking tiny?"

She was kind of hot back then...they wanted to show off her "assets". No problem here.



Title: Re: (Not so) Fantastic Four
Post by: Blue.Brutal on July 14, 2005, 09:27:27 AM
What the hell was I thinking?  I was trying to argue for logic in a movie where a guy gets orange and rocky because of cosmic rays.  Yeah, 'cause logic fits into that equasion...



Title: Re: (Not so) Fantastic Four
Post by: odinn7 on July 14, 2005, 09:35:05 AM
Now we're on the same page.



Title: Re: (Not so) Fantastic Four
Post by: The Burgomaster on July 14, 2005, 09:37:03 PM
I was really looking forward to this one, but it was pretty bad.  The Reed Richards character was all wrong - - they made him a complete buffoon.  Also, the storyline was uninteresting and Dr. Doom was a weak villain.  The only bright spot was Michael Chiklis as The Thing (his acting as Ben Grimm was awful, but he was good as The Thing).  Big disappointment.  Thumbs down.



Title: Re: (Not so) Fantastic Four
Post by: Archivist on July 18, 2005, 09:06:27 PM
Ooooh boy, I just saw it over the weekend, and I was quite disappointed.  As an old fan of the comics and even the original TV cartoon series I obviously had some bias about how the characters and plot should be handled, but I put that aside as I wanted to see it 'as a movie' rather than an adaptation of one of my favourite comics from the old days.

The casting seemed wrong, the acting was too 'showy' (seemed like they were 'trying' rather than 'being', except for Michael Chiklis), and the direction seemed slow.  The plot seemed like it was trying to go somewhere but it never did.  The whole movie was of a pretty low grade, although there were some fun moments like the snowboarding, the space station, various explosions and the bridge incident.

Then I started to compare the movie to what I know of the comics and characters, and I was appalled.  Reed Richards is not the emotionally ineffectual dorky scientist of this movie, but a very intelligent, direct and no-nonsense MAN.  Jessica Alba (may she live forever in skin-tight bodysuits) was not bad as Sue Storm, but Sue is the blue-eyed, blonde haired 'all American girl' type, and Jessica with blonde hair and blue contacts doesn't cut it.

Michael Chiklis was very, very good as Ben Grimm/The Thing.  Best acting in the movie, far better than the others.  The guy (!) who played Johnny Storm was too over the top.  Johnny was a hothead (figuratively) in the comics but not the 'extreme sports idiot' that he was portrayed as in the movie.

And my god, they COMPLETELY messed up Victor Von Doom.  Dr Doom is probably one of the most popular villains in the Marvel universe, and certainly one of mine.  In the comics he is a highly driven monarch, scientist, magician, martial artist and megalomaniacal dictator.  In the movie he was some investment entrepreneur with roots in engineering and a lot of money, LIVING IN AMERICA.  Heck, by the time he met the Fantastic Four he was already the Monarch of Latveria, with hundreds of complex inventions making life better for him and his country.

The movie lost Doom's incredibly rich back story, his depth of character, and made him into a petty, shallow 'movie villain'.  And for heaven's sake, he never turned into metal, and he was certainly never exposed to the cosmic radiation cloud that the FF were.

Argh.

I had medium expectations for this as a movie.  Those were not met.  And I was really disappointed at the treatment of the characters by the scriptwriters.  I highly doubt there will be a sequel.

~Archivist~


Title: Re: (Not so) Fantastic Four
Post by: Shark on July 19, 2005, 11:26:08 AM
I'm sorry, but this movie was not "decent" or "solid" or even "mediocre"...or anything else that some of you have been describing it as...it SUCKED, and it sucked HARD!  The acting all-around was horrible, the plot was ridiculous (even for a comic book-based film), the FX were cheesy, and the Human Torch was so annoying I just wanted to clobber him in the face with a 2x4.  The only somewhat tolerable aspect of the movie was The Thing and his little side story, but really, that's not saying very much at all.

For the sake of decency, DO NOT WASTE YOUR TIME AND MONEY on this piece of tripe.  Please, please, PLEASE trust me on this one, or brace yourself for one of the most agonizing experiences of your life.


Title: Re: (Not so) Fantastic Four
Post by: The Burgomaster on July 19, 2005, 01:20:30 PM
I totally agree with Shark.  This movie scores high on the Suck-o-meter.  It raises the bar for Suckiness, Suckosity, and Suckishness.  This movie is a real Suck-o-rama.



Title: Re: (Not so) Fantastic Four
Post by: Fearless Freep on July 19, 2005, 04:28:29 PM
Hey, you mispelled "smurf"...and that thread is just next door....