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Title: Things You Never Knew About DEVIL DOLL
Post by: Mr. Lobo on August 30, 2005, 11:42:47 PM
Things You Never Knew About Devil Doll (1964)

by Mr. Lobo


*   There are many differences between the European cut and the American cut of the film:

1.   The original has a starring credit for Bryant Haliday as "The Great Vorelli," but the American credits Tab Hunter above Bryant Halliday... which is strange because he is not in the film.
2.   The production company credit was orginally "Anglo-Amalgamated" - and on the American print it's listed as "Crackers Gone Wild".
3.   A scene where Haliday and Sandra Dorne leave her dressing room and go into a side room to have sex was cut from the American print. Instead, we are treated to six minutes of kittens playing with a ball of yarn.
4.   In the European version there is a scene on stage where Haliday hypnotizes a woman from the audience into performing a striptease which ends with her topless. In the American version a raccoon in the corner at the nightclub gets his head caught in a cookie jar and fumbles around under patrons' legs.
5.   Also in the European version, Dorne turns in her sleep to reveal a breast - but in the American version she sits up in a baby-doll nightgown and makes sure her Bible and gun are under her pillow.
6.   As Hugo creeps into the bedroom to stab Dorne in the European print, we again see her exposed breast... but the murder is off camera. In the American version the dummy rips off Dorne's head and dances in a fountain of her blood - but luckily the breast is covered.
7.   Sylvester calls his pudgy middle-aged colleage at a Berlin hotel, who is accompanied in bed by a young girl playing with her hair. In the American print she is wearing a bra and a see-through negligee... while in European print HE is wearing a bra and a see-through negligee.
8.   The Original title for the Europen release of the film was Devil Dog, but a lawsuit brought by the Little Debbie manufacturers - who had a popular snack cake with that name - forced them to change the name for American audiences.

*   The British Version cut the sequence featuring the forbidden dance... The Twist.
*   Devil Doll was in fact based on a short story written by Shari Lewis.
*   The Great Vorelli (Bryant Haliday) mastered the art of transferring souls into inanimate objects. Unfortuately he was unable to accomplish this for the film's cast.
*   Vorelli runs into rich, beautiful Marianne Horn (Yvonne Romain) and seeks to hypnotize her into believing she is in a good movie.
*   William Sylvester plays the reporter (and boyfriend) of Romain who's writing a travel piece about smoking and talking across Europe.
*   It was a longstanding rule that all foreign made films that were to be imported to the US were required to have an American journalist character that does absolutely nothing to advance the story.
*   This was the first live action English Horror Film shot in "Supermarionation."
*   Ventriloquist dummies used in the film were displayed at the premiere screening - but they got up and left 15 minutes into the film.
*   William Sylvester employs an acting style called "the amnesia technique" that allows him to go from Gorgo to Devil Doll to 2001: A Space Odyssey and not be remembered from one film to the next.
*   The Horseshoe Crab has eyes in its tail.
*   Unfortunately the horror of Devil Doll has been overshadowed by the classic "Ventriloquist's Dummy" episode of Family Matters (1989) in which they made a dummy of Urkel. (shudder)
*   The false beard in this film allowed actor Bryant Haliday to be cast two years later as the globe-trotting single father on Johnny Quest.
*   Devil Doll's story of an evil ventriloquist controlling the mind of a dummy has inspired many other films, TV shows, and presidential administrations.
*   Oddly enough, "Tickle Me Hugo" was the suprise must-have Christmas gift of 1964.
*   Before Yvonne Romain falls under the hypnotist's spell, she claims she doesn't know how to dance - and under trance she proves it by doing The Twist!
*   Devil Doll was filmed in England, which is the reason the Beatles came to America.
*   Yvonne Romaine's character went through many name changes in earlier drafts of the script, such as Yvonne Iceberg, Yvonne Web's Wonder, and Yvonne Butter-Lettuce.
*   Bryant Halliday, who was the Devil Doll's dominator Vorelli, later became co-founder of Janus Films, 'home owner' of The Criterion Collection - which made millions of dummies by Laserdiscs.
*   This film has many tight shots showing the actors in close-up so that it would play for television... just as stale and boring as it did for the cinema.
*   Because of budget limitations, all of the puppets in Devil Doll were made from Bisquick.
*   Director David Lynch saw this movie and found it odd.
*   It took six of Europe's finest sausage packers to get Vorelli's blonde assistant into her showgirl leotard.
*   The Great Vorelli hypnotises a man form the audience into believing he is held hostage with a loaded gun to his head. He begs, prays, sweats, weeps and eventually cries out as he is forced to imagine a finger pulling the trigger and to anticipate the bullet crashing through his skull. Subsequently, the nightclub stocked spare pairs of underwear for patrons who participate in the stage shows.
*   It's hard for us to imagine how a creepy ventriloquist who has the demeaning and dark act performs in front of sold-out crowds in Britain... since humiliating dummies and audience members would not become as popular in America until 30 years later, when The Jerry Springer Show premiered.
*   Devil Doll is really slow and tedious and has no sense of direction, and it's really slow and has no sense of - Wait, I already said that. Uh, hold on. Did I say it was slow?
*   To make Hugo the dummy truly horrifying, special effects wizards modeled his face on the unholy spawn of Larry Storch and Ernest Borgnine.
*   To punish Hugo, now trapped in a doll's body, the evil Vorelli denys him ham, Christmas presants and shiksas.
*   Most famously associated with the final segment of Dead Of Night, killer dummies have also popped up in films as diverse as Magic, Dollman vs. the Demonic Toys, Rambo, Red Heat, Cold as Ice, and The Adventures of Ford Fairlane.
*   Devil Doll won the coveted Oscar for most absurd eyebrows in a motion picture.
*   To save money on false eyelashes, fat fuzzy caterpillars dipped in tar were used.
*   A production grant was given to the film Devil Doll by the Milkfed German Prostitute Preservation Board.
*   Vorelli's delivery in Devil Doll is so monotone that portions of his dialogue are allowed to be played as an alternative to the Emergency Broadcast System test signal.
*   You could fill the crankcase of a Volkswagen ten times with the amount of oil produced from Vorelli's face in this film.
*   In Seattle, it's now illegal to air Devil Doll - the result of an incident in 1997 when it allegedly pushed 11,000 more of their depressed and rain-weary citizens to commit suicide.
*   Director Tod Browning' was so angry at the confusion between his film The Devil-Doll (1945) and Devil Doll that he shrunk the entire cast and crew into tiny slaves to do his bidding.
*   This movie was followed by the sequels Devil Dolls Are Go!, The Devil Dolls take Manhattan! and Beyond the Valley of the Devil Dolls.



Title: Re: Things You Never Knew About DEVIL DOLL
Post by: Ash on August 31, 2005, 04:39:34 AM
Dude, I'm not trying to dog you or anything but that is just WAAAAY too much info about a single movie crammed into one page.  Especially one I could care less about based upon initial observations.

You have to draw me in and hook me like a fish...and you didn't.

The text is too close together and after a few sentences, I didn't care.
I bet you copied and pasted it from your Word program didn't you?  It's ok.

Please try to restructure the way you write here...as it makes all the difference!

I want to hear what you have to say...just re-do it please!



Post Edited (08-31-05 08:13)


Title: Re: Things You Never Knew About DEVIL DOLL
Post by: odinn7 on August 31, 2005, 07:28:39 AM
Lighten up Ash. Don't like it, don't read it.
I, for one, enjoy Lobos "Things You Never Knew About..." threads. The man has an odd sense of humor, I can identify.

Don't listen to him Mr. Lobo...he goes away for months and then comes back to be boss. If he gives you anymore s**t, let me know and I'll b***h slap him for you.



Title: Re: Things You Never Knew About DEVIL DOLL
Post by: Ash on August 31, 2005, 08:07:43 AM
I'd love to enjoy Lobo too...and I respect what he has to say....It's just that it'd be so much easier if he'd restructure his sentences so they were easier to read and not all crammed together in a big blob.



Post Edited (08-31-05 08:11)


Title: Re: Things You Never Knew About DEVIL DOLL
Post by: odinn7 on August 31, 2005, 08:43:19 AM
Not everyone is an expert writer...we have all sorts on this board and I try to enjoy posts for WHAT is written rather than HOW it is written. Don't be trying to annoy people like that as you may deter them from contributing any more.
As I said, Mr. Lobos stuff is funny (even though I don't comment on it all the time, sorry Lobo) and I enjoy his oddball sense of humor. Is it written poorly and structured incorrectly? I don't know, I don't bother to pay attention to things like that. Don't listen to the heathens Mr. Lobo and as I said earlier...say the word and I'll start the b***h slapping.



Title: Re: Things You Never Knew About DEVIL DOLL
Post by: Ash on August 31, 2005, 08:48:48 AM
Odinn....I wasn't trying to offend.

Do this for me please....

Use the Search  capability of this Phorum and enter, "A Message To The Grammar Nazi's" written by Wyckednick into the search parameters.
Copy & paste that title from the line above...

Read every post....then come back.

It's a long but very informative thread.

G'head....read it.....
After perusing it, you'll understand what I was getting at.



Post Edited (08-31-05 10:58)


Title: Re: Things You Never Knew About DEVIL DOLL
Post by: trekgeezer on August 31, 2005, 10:57:43 AM
I agree with the cat . Mr. Lobo please double space!

It will make reading your already enjoyable little trists into the ficitional much more enjoyable.   (http://www.websmileys.com/sm/happy/028.gif)



Title: Re: Things You Never Knew About DEVIL DOLL
Post by: odinn7 on August 31, 2005, 11:26:46 AM
Ya know Trek, here I am smacking him around for talking crap like this and you go and encourage him by saying this. You're on my list, mister!

Now, on to business... I read that overly long topic that you pointed me to Ash and I understand what you're saying but try to understand what I'm saying. You come off in a way that may make some people decide not to post because of it. Appreciate that it's here to read and do it...don't make me come over there...



Title: Re: Things You Never Knew About DEVIL DOLL
Post by: Mr. Lobo on August 31, 2005, 11:59:14 AM
I think I'm going to make my posts more incoherent! I got 7 really entertaining replies overnight. It's actually copied and pasted from my website http://www.cinemainsomnia.com...where it is a bit easier to read...But here it is double spaced. Of course now it easier to read it won't get any reaction at all...

Things You Never Knew About Devil Doll (1964)

by Mr. Lobo


*   There are many differences between the European cut and the American cut of the film:

1.   The original has a starring credit for Bryant Haliday as "The Great Vorelli," but the American credits Tab Hunter above Bryant Halliday... which is strange because he is not in the film.

2.   The production company credit was orginally "Anglo-Amalgamated" - and on the American print it's listed as "Crackers Gone Wild".

3.   A scene where Haliday and Sandra Dorne leave her dressing room and go into a side room to have sex was cut from the American print. Instead, we are treated to six minutes of kittens playing with a ball of yarn.

4.   In the European version there is a scene on stage where Haliday hypnotizes a woman from the audience into performing a striptease which ends with her topless. In the American version a raccoon in the corner at the nightclub gets his head caught in a cookie jar and fumbles around under patrons' legs.

5.   Also in the European version, Dorne turns in her sleep to reveal a breast - but in the American version she sits up in a baby-doll nightgown and makes sure her Bible and gun are under her pillow.

6.   As Hugo creeps into the bedroom to stab Dorne in the European print, we again see her exposed breast... but the murder is off camera. In the American version the dummy rips off Dorne's head and dances in a fountain of her blood - but luckily the breast is covered.

7.   Sylvester calls his pudgy middle-aged colleage at a Berlin hotel, who is accompanied in bed by a young girl playing with her hair. In the American print she is wearing a bra and a see-through negligee... while in European print HE is wearing a bra and a see-through negligee.

8.   The Original title for the Europen release of the film was Devil Dog, but a lawsuit brought by the Little Debbie manufacturers - who had a popular snack cake with that name - forced them to change the name for American audiences.

*   The British Version cut the sequence featuring the forbidden dance... The Twist.

*   Devil Doll was in fact based on a short story written by Shari Lewis.

*   The Great Vorelli (Bryant Haliday) mastered the art of transferring souls into inanimate objects. Unfortuately he was unable to accomplish this for the film's cast.

*   Vorelli runs into rich, beautiful Marianne Horn (Yvonne Romain) and seeks to hypnotize her into believing she is in a good movie.

*   William Sylvester plays the reporter (and boyfriend) of Romain who's writing a travel piece about smoking and talking across Europe.

*   It was a longstanding rule that all foreign made films that were to be imported to the US were required to have an American journalist character that does absolutely nothing to advance the story.

*   This was the first live action English Horror Film shot in "Supermarionation."

*   Ventriloquist dummies used in the film were displayed at the premiere screening - but they got up and left 15 minutes into the film.

*   William Sylvester employs an acting style called "the amnesia technique" that allows him to go from Gorgo to Devil Doll to 2001: A Space Odyssey and not be remembered from one film to the next.

*   The Horseshoe Crab has eyes in its tail.

*   Unfortunately the horror of Devil Doll has been overshadowed by the classic "Ventriloquist's Dummy" episode of Family Matters (1989) in which they made a dummy of Urkel. (shudder)

*   The false beard in this film allowed actor Bryant Haliday to be cast two years later as the globe-trotting single father on Johnny Quest.

*   Devil Doll's story of an evil ventriloquist controlling the mind of a dummy has inspired many other films, TV shows, and presidential administrations.

*   Oddly enough, "Tickle Me Hugo" was the suprise must-have Christmas gift of 1964.

*   Before Yvonne Romain falls under the hypnotist's spell, she claims she doesn't know how to dance - and under trance she proves it by doing The Twist!

*   Devil Doll was filmed in England, which is the reason the Beatles came to America.

*   Yvonne Romaine's character went through many name changes in earlier drafts of the script, such as Yvonne Iceberg, Yvonne Web's Wonder, and Yvonne Butter-Lettuce.

*   Bryant Halliday, who was the Devil Doll's dominator Vorelli, later became co-founder of Janus Films, 'home owner' of The Criterion Collection - which made millions of dummies by Laserdiscs.

*   This film has many tight shots showing the actors in close-up so that it would play for television... just as stale and boring as it did for the cinema.

*   Because of budget limitations, all of the puppets in Devil Doll were made from Bisquick.

*   Director David Lynch saw this movie and found it odd.

*   It took six of Europe's finest sausage packers to get Vorelli's blonde assistant into her showgirl leotard.

*   The Great Vorelli hypnotises a man form the audience into believing he is held hostage with a loaded gun to his head. He begs, prays, sweats, weeps and eventually cries out as he is forced to imagine a finger pulling the trigger and to anticipate the bullet crashing through his skull. Subsequently, the nightclub stocked spare pairs of underwear for patrons who participate in the stage shows.

*   It's hard for us to imagine how a creepy ventriloquist who has the demeaning and dark act performs in front of sold-out crowds in Britain... since humiliating dummies and audience members would not become as popular in America until 30 years later, when The Jerry Springer Show premiered.

*   Devil Doll is really slow and tedious and has no sense of direction, and it's really slow and has no sense of - Wait, I already said that. Uh, hold on. Did I say it was slow?

*   To make Hugo the dummy truly horrifying, special effects wizards modeled his face on the unholy spawn of Larry Storch and Ernest Borgnine.

*   To punish Hugo, now trapped in a doll's body, the evil Vorelli denys him ham, Christmas presants and shiksas.

*   Most famously associated with the final segment of Dead Of Night, killer dummies have also popped up in films as diverse as Magic, Dollman vs. the Demonic Toys, Rambo, Red Heat, Cold as Ice, and The Adventures of Ford Fairlane.

*   Devil Doll won the coveted Oscar for most absurd eyebrows in a motion picture.

*   To save money on false eyelashes, fat fuzzy caterpillars dipped in tar were used.

*   A production grant was given to the film Devil Doll by the Milkfed German Prostitute Preservation Board.

*   Vorelli's delivery in Devil Doll is so monotone that portions of his dialogue are allowed to be played as an alternative to the Emergency Broadcast System test signal.

*   You could fill the crankcase of a Volkswagen ten times with the amount of oil produced from Vorelli's face in this film.

*   In Seattle, it's now illegal to air Devil Doll - the result of an incident in 1997 when it allegedly pushed 11,000 more of their depressed and rain-weary citizens to commit suicide.

*   Director Tod Browning' was so angry at the confusion between his film The Devil-Doll (1945) and Devil Doll that he shrunk the entire cast and crew into tiny slaves to do his bidding.

*   This movie was followed by the sequels Devil Dolls Are Go!, The Devil Dolls take Manhattan! and Beyond the Valley of the Devil Dolls.



Title: Re: Things You Never Knew About DEVIL DOLL
Post by: odinn7 on August 31, 2005, 12:36:01 PM
Oh Mr. Lobo...you let me down, buddy. You caved to the pressure. Here I was, fighting the good fight. Standing up for a noble cause. Preparing to go to war over this. I even attacked Trek, who I happen to like...You caved in...sigh...I'll go back to my corner now.



Title: Re: Things You Never Knew About DEVIL DOLL
Post by: Gerry on August 31, 2005, 01:19:35 PM
odinn7 wrote:

> You caved
> in...sigh...I'll go back to my corner now.

Will you b***hslap ASHTHECAT anyway?  Just for fun?


Title: Re: Things You Never Knew About DEVIL DOLL
Post by: Mr. Lobo on August 31, 2005, 04:26:20 PM
Mr. Lobo didn't as much cave as spelunked! Sorry, I let you down but you have to read between the lines. Mr. Lobo has a pretty tough skin and an understanding heart. No one is going to come on here and say, "I'm easily confused...make it easier for a feeb like myself to read! The Asterik wasn't enough of a clue that you're on to a new "fact". I don't get the irony of a dense list dedicated to a crappy film. Please make it more accessible for me."

Mr. Lobo is a horror host of the people...I can meet someone halfway if it helps. We don't need to fight each other--We're all here for the same reason...

...To pick up chicks, right?



Title: Re: Things You Never Knew About DEVIL DOLL
Post by: Flangepart on August 31, 2005, 05:14:35 PM
Keep the double spaceing...my old eyes appreciate it, not to mention my spleen ( I told you not to mention that!)..Shut up, stupid alternate personality!...( Ahem)...as i was saying...
Double spaceing : Good
Mr. Lobo's humor : Better!
Need for haveing nose hair removed with weed wacker : Profound.

I try to get along with reality...realy i do...



Title: Re: Things You Never Knew About DEVIL DOLL
Post by: Ed, Ego and Superego on August 31, 2005, 06:36:22 PM
I'm with Odinn here, its a fun read.  
-Ed


Title: Re: Things You Never Knew About DEVIL DOLL
Post by: trekgeezer on August 31, 2005, 08:21:20 PM
Flange, Flange, Flange....are you sure you're not my hippy nephew Steve. If not you guys have twin spirits and side splitting senses of humor.

By the I too was going to mention to Mr. Lobo that for this Geezer, the double spacing makes it much easier on the ancient eyeballs.



Title: Re: Things You Never Knew About DEVIL DOLL
Post by: odinn7 on August 31, 2005, 10:52:18 PM
Mr. Lobo wrote:

> No one is going
> to come on here and say, "I'm easily confused...make it easier
> for a feeb like myself to read! The Asterik wasn't enough of a
> clue that you're on to a new "fact". I don't get the irony of a
> dense list dedicated to a crappy film. Please make it more
> accessible for me."
>

Bravo!



Title: Re: Things You Never Knew About DEVIL DOLL
Post by: Mr. Lobo on September 01, 2005, 03:20:38 AM
I'm just happy you gentlemen are paying attention. Wish me luck..I'm on to some humor related to next week's show "Voyage To A Prehistoric Planet".



Title: Re: Things You Never Knew About DEVIL DOLL
Post by: Gerry on September 01, 2005, 12:49:47 PM
Mr. Lobo wrote:

> I'm on to some humor related to next week's show "Voyage
> To A Prehistoric Planet".

Ah, a perennial favorite.  That one is a mine field of opportunity!


Title: Re: Things You Never Knew About DEVIL DOLL
Post by: Just Plain Horse on September 06, 2005, 01:13:12 PM
Mr. Lobo wrote:

> *   Oddly enough, "Tickle Me Hugo" was the suprise must-have
> Christmas gift of 1964.


"Tickle Me Hugo" is almost impossible to manipulate, and he comes complete with three sayings- "Give me ham!", "You are not the only one who likes to eat." & "Get your hand outta my ass!".

Warning: "Tickle Me Hugo" should never be used in filmmaking or soul-transference. Do not feed "Tickle Me Hugo" any form of luncheon meats. Keep "Tickle Me Hugo" in his cage when not in use. If "Tickle Me Hugo" attempts to kill you or your family, simply return for a full refund.



Title: Tickle Me Horse!
Post by: Mr. Lobo on September 07, 2005, 12:14:30 AM
Superb! Thanks for playing...

Your Horror Host,
Mister Lobo