A nightmare before christmas

[djhautecouture]

This may be old news for you all, but last night a overheard someone saying that there'll be a Nightmare before Christmas - remake ...
Makes me wonder what was wrong with the original...

[Fearless Freep]

Or why they would remake it so soon?

Or maybe Burton is just having a Lucas Moment and thinks that technology is where he can do things he couldn't do before?

Or maybe Johnny Depp wasn't available first time around?

[LH-C]

WTF? That is the oddest thing I've heard in awhile.

[peter johnson]

. . . so, as I said, my new claymation remake of Citizen Kane will have some sex scenes and maybe a few rap numbers and some dinosaurs, but I PROMISE it will stay true to the spirit of the original . . .
Is Burton doing his own remake?  I think it would be better if some wino off the street would do the remake as a sort of "homage" to Burton's Planet of The Apes . . ,
And we're remaking Birth of A Nation as well -- Lincoln lives, the South wins, and Lillian Gish has sex with a dozen Union soldiers . . . but we promise to stay true to the spirit of the original . . .
Marky Mark is composing the Hip-Hop score for the feature, with Jessica Simpson on vocals.
peter johnson/denny crane is dead . . .

[Shadowphile]

The Birth of a Nation.....

I finally saw that film recently.  I own it only for it's historical signifcance.

Is there a statute of limitations on remakes?  Don't you have to wait 30 years or something?  Hollywood law?

[peter johnson]

Nah, there's really nothing inherently wrong about remakes per se, nor is there any sort of statute of limitations on them --
Hitchcock remade many of his own films several times:  The 39 Steps, The Lady Vanishes, etc. etc.
I like the remakes of The Thing and Invasion of The Body Snatchers very much.
What I think is wrong is the drive to do remakes of films that probably can't be "improved" upon or even given a new twist on by a remake, as they were pretty final the first time they were made.
I mean it -- Why remake Citizen Kane?  
Some horrible, pointless remakes would be all the American versions of French comedy classics:  The Tall Blonde Man With One Red Shoe, The Goat, etc. etc.
Horrible/pointless:  Psycho remake.  Planet of The Apes remake.
Some work -- The Blob.  Mutiny on The Bounty.  The endless Sherlock Holmes variations. etc. etc.
Birth of a Nation is its own little cinematic masterpiece, by the by -- yes, let's all excoriate the racism etc., but as a fully realised epic vision, there's really nothing else like it in 1915, nor is there for the next 20 years.
peter johnson/denny crane

[Shadowphile]

I agree TBOAN is an incredible film for a lot of reasons. Should it be remade?  Hell no.  Should Metropolis be remade?  Hell no.  What about the African Queen?  Hell no.  Guess Who's coming To Dinner?  Hell no but they did it anyway.

Hollywood needs to start coming up with original ideas again because they're remaking movies that were terrible the first time around and are doing nothing to improve them or are taking classics and butchering them.

[LilCerberus]

Just a thought...
I understand that after the creation of the "Talkie", quite a few studios, as well as actors & directors felt some inate obligation to remake EVERY film they ever made.

Lon Chaney passed away after doing at least two talkie remakes of movies he had starred in previously.

[Ash]

The guy who wrote this thread is full of BS.
I looked & looked & looked and there is absolutely nothing about a remake.

He probably couldn't think of anything to write so he cooked up this thread instead.

[djhautecouture]

Ok ... not being able to live the rest of my life marked as full of BS I went out to look for some evidence ... Apparently it's NOT going to be a remake, but more of a makeover : the movie will return in cinema after having had a Disney Digital 3D treat ...

read more here : http://forum.deviantart.com/entertainment/movies/690698/

Guess I'm only partially full of BS ;-)

[RCMerchant]

lilcerberus Wrote:
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> Just a thought...
> I understand that after the creation of the
> "Talkie", quite a few studios, as well as actors &
> directors felt some inate obligation to remake
> EVERY film they ever made.
>
> Lon Chaney passed away after doing at least two
> talkie remakes of movies he had starred in
> previously.
TWO? I believe he only made one talkie,a remake of theUNHOLY THREE(1930)Tod Browing did remake a Chaney film LONDON AFTER MIDNIGHT(1927) as the MARK of the VAMPIRE withBela Lugosi in 1935.

[LilCerberus]

RCMerchant Wrote:
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> TWO? I believe he only made one talkie,a remake of
> theUNHOLY THREE(1930)Tod Browing did remake a
> Chaney film LONDON AFTER MIDNIGHT(1927) as the
> MARK of the VAMPIRE withBela Lugosi in 1935.


Of course, I may recollect wrong, but I recall seeing on a PBS special that he did a talkie remake of The Big City.

[RCMerchant]

lilcerberus Wrote:
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> RCMerchant Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > TWO? I believe he only made one talkie,a remake
> of
> > theUNHOLY THREE(1930)Tod Browing did remake a
> > Chaney film LONDON AFTER MIDNIGHT(1927) as the
> > MARK of the VAMPIRE withBela Lugosi in 1935.
>
>
> Of course, I may recollect wrong, but I recall
> seeing on a PBS special that he did a talkie
> remake of The Big City.
Now THATS fascinating! I'm intrigued!

[peter johnson]

This is what I Freakin' Love about this website:
Here we have 2 otherwise normal(?) individuals discussing Lon Chaney in a serious fashion --
I mention Lon Chaney around here and I may get someone confusing father with Junior re. Universal, but generally not a known quantity.
We still do have a local Silent Film series on the big BIG screen at Chataqua here in Boulder, but even there people know him as either Hunchback or Phantom or not at all.
And having said that, even I am ashamed to say I didn't know that Mark of The Vampire was a remake of the lost London After Midnight . . .
Thankyou Badmovies!!
peter johnson/denny crane

[LilCerberus]

Interestingly enough, this PBS special that i mentioned seemed to imply that the works Lon Chaney is best known for now, such as Phantom & Hunchback, weren't quite as popular in their day, as his films in which he didn't wear those remarquable prosthetics.
In other words, when he was alive, audiences prefered his normal face.