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« Reply #30 on: December 03, 2006, 02:41:45 AM »

I've seen most of the movies on RCMerchant's list, usually sitting in the dark of a walk-in theater. During the week and on Sunday's they would show the standard A type movies, but on Saturdays they would open at 11 am and show double features like Devil Girl from Mars and Fire Maidens from Outer Space, there would be previews of coming attractions that were usually better than the movies ever would be. I realize that the people who made these movies were trying to make money so low or no budget was the rule but the fx available at the time were limited so it was easy to see that the monster, giant bug etc. was a double exposure or a minature stop motion effect. Now with cg technology it is possible, if you have the budget, to film a very believable creature or what ever it is you want on the screen, unfortunately any one with a camcorder and a personal computer has access to the same stuff, so just about any one who wants to make a movie and put it out on dvd can and apparently does, most of them have no talent at all so they can't make a good bad movie, just bad movies. I have to say that unless a movie is made as a parody of these great B movies all we're going to get are bad movies. I actually find this depressing.       
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« Reply #31 on: December 04, 2006, 08:45:07 AM »



Ya know, yer right. The possibility of a good b-movie comming out nowadays is often a chance slim to none. What with all the fancy pantsy "special" effects and the lack of interest in aliens and monsters that people have now and every "horror" movie now has to be some sort of slasher flik. Thats why I thank God for "Snakes on a Plane".

I don't know, I think there are a lot of so-bad-they're-good monster movies coming out these days.  Just looking through My DVD collection:

Arachnid
Breeders
Raptor
Centipede
Dragon Storm
Frankenfish
Hammerhead
House of the Dead 1 & 2
Insecticidal
Killer Rats
King of the Lost World
Lethal Target
Pinata:  Survival Island
Python
Spiders
Sasquatch Hunters
Shrieker
Shapeshifter

I'd call all of those movies entertaining, and few if any are "bland".  They're all a lot of fun - at least I think they are.  And I've got a pretty small DVD collection.  There are at least a couple dozen more I'd buy if I had the money.  If I were to add all the boring ones to the list, there would be at least 30 or 40 more.  I'm not sure that the '50s and '60s even had a larger volume of cheesy monster movies, and lets not forget that most of those were bland and boring - we tend to only remember the good ones today.
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« Reply #32 on: December 04, 2006, 10:54:07 PM »



Ya know, yer right. The possibility of a good b-movie comming out nowadays is often a chance slim to none. What with all the fancy pantsy "special" effects and the lack of interest in aliens and monsters that people have now and every "horror" movie now has to be some sort of slasher flik. Thats why I thank God for "Snakes on a Plane".

I don't know, I think there are a lot of so-bad-they're-good monster movies coming out these days.  Just looking through My DVD collection:

Arachnid
Breeders
Raptor
Centipede
Dragon Storm
Frankenfish
Hammerhead
House of the Dead 1 & 2
Insecticidal
Killer Rats
King of the Lost World
Lethal Target
Pinata:  Survival Island
Python
Spiders
Sasquatch Hunters
Shrieker
Shapeshifter

I'd call all of those movies entertaining, and few if any are "bland".  They're all a lot of fun - at least I think they are.  And I've got a pretty small DVD collection.  There are at least a couple dozen more I'd buy if I had the money.  If I were to add all the boring ones to the list, there would be at least 30 or 40 more.  I'm not sure that the '50s and '60s even had a larger volume of cheesy monster movies, and lets not forget that most of those were bland and boring - we tend to only remember the good ones today.

I think it's a matter of perception and interaction between the audience and the movie which is rare these days. In the 50's and early 60's at the walk-in when the audience of kids and teenagers got that first look at the cheesey creature or what ever and it caused a I paid my money and waited 40 minutes for this stupid thing reaction there would be hooting and hollering and flying popcorn boxes (the rectangular boxes could be flattened out and flew just like a frisbee) by the same token if something was scary or good it would get a reaction, the audience was involved even if the movie was bad. Over time as the "B" movies slowly changed to what they are today  this involvement faded away, even adults at the "A" movies would applaud if they liked it, I've even seen a movie (A Man For All Seasons) get a standing ovation, now though you pay your $10 or so, watch the movie, and leave, maybe talk about it later or mabe not .
 I've seen about half the movies on the list and while I will remember to look for the ones I haven't seen, I have to say that while most that I've seen were ok only two, Frankenfish and Spiders grabbed me, there should be some more there that will do the same I hope. I think that most horror/sci-fi movies these days are not really good enough to be great, but thanks to the advances in fx are not bad enough to be  considered cheesey.

Now not to change the subject there is a movie that I would recomend, that's Dog Soldiers, if you like werewolves this is a real fun movie, at least I think it is.
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« Reply #33 on: January 12, 2007, 02:07:59 PM »

I just think we've got rose-tinted spectacles about the movies of the past. We don't remember the acres of boring, dull old films because no-one bothers thinking about them or saving them to show to the public. We do see more of the films of now because they're out now (obviously) and the level of true, hilariously bad films is about the same as it ever was.
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« Reply #34 on: January 12, 2007, 04:32:44 PM »

I watched a film last night , a new release called "SHOCKWAVE!" why was it called Shockwave I have no idea as the movie has nothing to do with the title. The IMDB title is A.I. Assult (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0468547/) released by LionGate and the Production Company was CineTel (Which puts out a lot of cheap DTV movies) The story is basicily "The Curse of the Komodo" with the word 'Komodo' struck out and the word 'robot' penciled in, same script pretty much.
This movie was so cheap and so bad that I was really laughting out loud. Large boulder that moved when you bumped into them, cheesy dialog, bad acting, over acting and a bunch of Sci-Fi shows 2nd stringers. The Doctor for Voyager, Worf fron ST TNG, Lennier from Babylon 5, Sulu from Star Trek just to name a few. The STARS some 3rd and 4th string actor were weak, the errors were many, the FX was cheesy and it was fun to watch!

So are BAD MOVIE a thing of the past .... NO WAY! 
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« Reply #35 on: January 12, 2007, 04:36:04 PM »

I watched a film last night , a new release called "SHOCKWAVE!" why was it called Shockwave I have no idea as the movie has nothing to do with the title. The IMDB title is A.I. Assult (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0468547/) released by LionGate and the Production Company was CineTel (Which puts out a lot of cheap DTV movies) The story is basicily "The Curse of the Komodo" with the word 'Komodo' struck out and the word 'robot' penciled in, same script pretty much.
This movie was so cheap and so bad that I was really laughting out loud. Large boulder that moved when you bumped into them, cheesy dialog, bad acting, over acting and a bunch of Sci-Fi shows 2nd stringers. The Doctor for Voyager, Worf fron ST TNG, Lennier from Babylon 5, Sulu from Star Trek just to name a few. The STARS some 3rd and 4th string actor were weak, the errors were many, the FX was cheesy and it was fun to watch!

So are BAD MOVIE a thing of the past .... NO WAY! 



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« Reply #36 on: January 12, 2007, 07:22:24 PM »

The major difference is today's bad movies are often marketed as big budget blockbusters (especially if they happen to be YET ANOTHER POINTLESS REMAKE) whereas yesteryear's hardly had any budget at all and oodles and oodles more charm and oomph in many cases. Besides as long as we have directors like Uwe Boll, we'll have bad movies. 
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« Reply #37 on: January 16, 2007, 10:12:33 AM »

Think of it this way-its a damn good thing there are people like us who love and want these kinds of movies to be remembered. We may watch them over and over again, but there will always be a new generation of fans waiting to experience them for the first time. Viva le B-Film!
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« Reply #38 on: January 16, 2007, 06:07:20 PM »

I watched a film last night , a new release called "SHOCKWAVE!" why was it called Shockwave I have no idea as the movie has nothing to do with the title. The IMDB title is A.I. Assult (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0468547/) released by LionGate and the Production Company was CineTel (Which puts out a lot of cheap DTV movies) The story is basicily "The Curse of the Komodo" with the word 'Komodo' struck out and the word 'robot' penciled in, same script pretty much.
This movie was so cheap and so bad that I was really laughting out loud. Large boulder that moved when you bumped into them, cheesy dialog, bad acting, over acting and a bunch of Sci-Fi shows 2nd stringers. The Doctor for Voyager, Worf fron ST TNG, Lennier from Babylon 5, Sulu from Star Trek just to name a few. The STARS some 3rd and 4th string actor were weak, the errors were many, the FX was cheesy and it was fun to watch!

So are BAD MOVIE a thing of the past .... NO WAY! 



Shackwave was originally titled AI Assult, it is directed by Jim Wynorski, who used to do fun movies like Sorority Babes in the Slimeball Bowl-o-rama, but now just remakes Curse of the Komodo so he can get free trips to Hawaii.  He also directed Komodo vs Cobra, which is almost identical to Curse of the Komodo, even having three os the same actors and the same white house used as a set. (Also, only 30 seconds of Komodo vs. Cobra action)
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« Reply #39 on: January 16, 2007, 06:53:25 PM »

Curse of the Komodo is a favorite of mine - what can even be said about that blond in the white tank top?  Hubba Hubba.  I loved the way the fighter jets kept changing from single engine to twin engine in every-other scene, and then they fired napalm missiles at their targets (I'm pretty sure napalm only comes in bombs).  And even though the island was at least several miles across and covered in jungle, it was just naturally assumed that two fighter jets could wipe out every last living thing on it. 

I agree entirely about A.I. Assault and Komodo vs. Cobra, they were both extremely weak remakes of Curse.  One of them actually used several pages of the script from Curse of the Komodo.  Imagine my surprise when watching the movie for the first time and being able to recite the dialogue before the characters spoke it.  I used to really like Wynorsky's stuff, but he just seems to be getting lazy now. 
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« Reply #40 on: January 16, 2007, 07:25:14 PM »

Shockwave appeared to have been filmed in Hawaii too. Likely at a state park as they made there way through the dense jungle, you can see the paved path they are walking on. Clearly they couldn't afford a steadi-cam and there was the stock footage of jets and helicopters. I'd guess they were filmed as they flew in and out of the local base they in Hawaii. I need to watch it again, it's a modern day bad movie with moving boulders, bad acting, poor dialog and cheezy characters.
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« Reply #41 on: January 17, 2007, 07:17:23 AM »

agreed, the bulls**t they put DTDVD isnt even enjoyable(even when your drunk!) they are bad not good-bad just bad bad. the feel of those cheesy 80's flicks( my favs) is over. even if there is a monster in it that is practical(not cgi) it lacks something i think it may be the warm film feel, since all those s**t flicks are shot on digital it feel empty to me. idk but among those DTDVD disasters i think the most painful one i had to sit through yet was "Blood Relic"............ holy f**kin christ, this movie has no redeeming qualities what so ever. the acting is garbage, if you've ever watched anyones home made movies and listened to the way they "Act" picture that times 20. a s**tty looking killer(the beastie on the cover is nowhere to be f**kin found) THE ARTWORK HAS ABSOLUTLEY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MOVIE WHAT SO EVER THERE IS NO SKELETON GUY! not to mention THERE IS NO INDICATION THAT THIS MOVIE TAKES PLACE IN A GODDAMNED AIR BASE TURNED MUSEUM! im just so mad cause i cant belive this garbage is released or that the film makers actually think this s**t is anygood! it makes me so angry! i just hope Blockbuster will pick up my flick , that is if it doesnt get anywhere in a film festival.   
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« Reply #42 on: January 17, 2007, 05:32:07 PM »

I got to (unfortunately) see Pinata: Survival Island not too long ago.



I think that movie can rank up there with some classic awful movies. 
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« Reply #43 on: January 17, 2007, 08:21:29 PM »

As long as producers have nephews..there will be bad movies
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« Reply #44 on: January 18, 2007, 04:47:12 AM »

I got to (unfortunately) see Pinata: Survival Island not too long ago.



I think that movie can rank up there with some classic awful movies. 

We have a channel in the UK that seems to specialise showing terrible films like that - Zone Horror. The Pinata film was especially bad though.
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