Bad Movie Logo
"A website to the detriment of good film"
Custom Search
HOMEB-MOVIE REVIEWSREADER REVIEWSFORUMINTERVIEWSUPDATESABOUT
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
July 30, 2014, 10:43:54 PM
530305 Posts in 40025 Topics by 4999 Members
Latest Member: Alvin simths
Badmovies.org Forum  |  Other Topics  |  Off Topic Discussion  |  South African censorship for Yaddo and all the peoples here « previous next »
Pages: [1]
Author Topic: South African censorship for Yaddo and all the peoples here  (Read 2337 times)
Trevor
Adorable Chief Troublemaker at Badmovies.org
B-Movie Kraken
*****

Karma: 832
Posts: 10702



WWW
« on: February 19, 2007, 01:44:19 AM »

SA Censorship ~ where to begin? What the users on this board have to realize is that South Africa from about 1948 to the early 90's was very much a blinkered society ~ and this way of seeing things had nothing to do with apartheid. What you also have to know is the mentality of the times ensured that TV was condemned as "the devil's box" and anything foreign or unknown to the powers that be was seen to be evil.

The Publications Control Board and its' elder brother the Publications Appeal Board had frightening powers and banned everything that they themselves found to be offensive ~ in 1970 alone, 300 films were banned. If you were found in possession of so-called "adult material" (X rated videos, magazines, books, etc) you were slapped with a heavy fine, jail sentence or both.

Herewith a short list of some of the best known films that were banned:

Monty Python's The Life Of Brian                   
Monty Python's The Meaning of Life
Monty Python and The Holy Grail
Enter The Dragon
Billy Jack
The Trial of Billy Jack
Death Wish
Death Wish 2
RoboCop
The Running Man
Total Recall
The Last Temptation of Christ
Zulu (banned for screening to Black South Africans)
Cry The Beloved Country (1951)
Under The Yum Yum Tree
A Patch Of Blue
In The Heat Of The Night
Sweet Charity
The Bedford Incident
Guess Who's Coming To Dinner
The Organization
They Call Me Mister Tibbs
Brother John
Buck & The Preacher
The Long Ships
The Pawnbroker
The Graduate
To Sir With Love
Finian's Rainbow
The Conqueror Worm
The Exorcist
Exorcist 2 The Heretic
Exorcist 3 Legion
The Omen
Bonnie & Clyde
Blow Up
The Learning Tree
Sounder
Belle De Jour
The Great White Hope
The Trial
The Devils
The Devil's Rain
The Devil Rides Out
A Clockwork Orange
Straw Dogs
If
Barry Lyndon
Soldier Blue
The Dunwich Horror
McCabe & Mrs Miller
The Immortal Story
The Wild Bunch
The Defiant Ones
Last Tango In Paris
Shaft
Shaft's Big Score
Shaft In Africa
The Wicker Man (Robin Hardy)
The Big Boss
Fist Of Fury
The Texas Chainsaw Massacre
Blazing Saddles
Death Line
Lenny
Lost In the Stars
It's Alive
The Killing Of Sister George
Lady Sings The Blues
The Message
Looking For Mr Goodbar
Audrey Rose
Hair
Game For Vultures
Dressed To Kill
Friday The 13th
The Burning
Dawn Of The Dead (1978)
Martin
The Howling
The Night Porter
Bad Timing
Under Fire
The Stud
The b***h
Angel / Danny Boy
Scarface
The Rocky Horror Picture Show
Race With The Devil
A Dry White Season
A World Apart
Jesus Christ Superstar
Godspell.


These were only some of the thousands of films that were banned ~ censorship in SA started fading only when Basic Instinct was released uncut here.

Finally, the biggest groan of them all: in the early 1950's, a book was found to be both "insidious and subversive" in just its' title alone and was banned immediately.

Its' author? Anna Sewell.

Its'  title? Black Beauty!  Buggedout Buggedout Buggedout TongueOut

Logged

Doc Daneeka
Tako Luka tuna fever!
Frightening Fanatic of Horrible Cinema
****

Karma: 160
Posts: 1814


I want to eat a tuna!


WWW
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2007, 08:50:47 AM »

What about Black Christmas?
The Black Stallion?
ROlling Stones' Paint it Black?

Wait a second, Soldier Blue?

And which "It's Alive" are we talking about?
Logged

Get out da' waaaaaaaayyy, octopus comin' through!
Trevor
Adorable Chief Troublemaker at Badmovies.org
B-Movie Kraken
*****

Karma: 832
Posts: 10702



WWW
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2007, 09:25:49 AM »

 Smile  BounceGiggle

As far as I remember, Black Christmas was also banned, as were most of the Rolling Stones' albums and the Beatles were banned from being played on radio when John Lennon made his comment about them being bigger than the Big Guy.

It was the first It's Alive that was banned and I think that the second one was banned too.

It was a truly wonderful state of affairs with the Govt. telling you what you could read, see and hear and controlling every aspect of your life: a true nanny state.  Hatred
Logged

Trevor
Adorable Chief Troublemaker at Badmovies.org
B-Movie Kraken
*****

Karma: 832
Posts: 10702



WWW
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2007, 09:31:26 AM »

Before I leave work for the day (it's 16h30 here, SA time) and go and have a beer  Cheers or some cold freshly squeezed onion juice  Buggedout, I just remembered that the Pink Floyd album The Wall was also banned here, as the Govt decided that the insidious lyrics of Another Brick In The Wall Part 2 were causing schools to be boycotted.  Hatred
Logged

CheezeFlixz
Frightening Fanatic of Horrible Cinema
****

Karma: 489
Posts: 3723


Pathetic Earthlings


WWW
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2007, 09:59:37 AM »

Sad, I've lived in a number of other countries where a lot of so called "western" things or things deemed unsuitable were banned. Made little to no sense as to why once you got to see them. Banning things only makes people want to see them more, I do not need a moral police, I'll be the judge of that.
Logged

Yaddo 42
Frightening Fanatic of Horrible Cinema
****

Karma: 152
Posts: 1630


Where's that brick.......


« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2007, 04:33:21 AM »

Thanks for the list, Trevor. Between the ones that did surprise me, the ones that did until I thought on it for a second (Bonnie and Clyde - I'm guessing disrespect for authority and rampant killings maybe?), and the ones that didn't it's an interesting glimpse of the mindset of TPTB at the time. Total Recall, my guess would be the mutant ghettos and structure of the society on Mars hit a little too close to home as a metaphor. Am I in the ballpark?

Damn, Sidney Poitier might as well have not have existed, guess they wished he didn't, as little as his films were seen. I'll bet The Wilby Conspiracy really didn't make it there either.

IMDB seem to suggest The Wild Geese was shown in SA, it got positive reviews in the Soweto Times, the largest circulation black newspaper in SA. This surprises me if true, between the plot and the subplot involving the bonding of Hardy Krueger's character and the Julius Limbani character, I figured this would cross the line.

I remember from a psych class in college, reading about studies concerning television and violence behavior conducted in South Africa because TV wasn't allowed in there until the mid 70s IIRC, and it was viewed as a rare opportunity for studying the effects of introducing TV to a modern urban society.
Logged

blah blah stuff blah blah obscure pop culture reference blah blah clever turn of phrase blah blah bad pun blah blah bad link blah blah zzzz.....
Yaddo 42
Frightening Fanatic of Horrible Cinema
****

Karma: 152
Posts: 1630


Where's that brick.......


« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2007, 04:44:27 AM »

Wait a second, Soldier Blue?

Trevor is the expert here obviously, if I'm wrong I hope he'll correct me, I think I can see why that film would get banned. That film's story involves a white woman who lived among the Indians, whose loyalty lies more with them than with the government or her "own" people, and a cavalry soldier with conflicted ideals as the story progresses. Perhaps the massacres (first Indian on cavalry, vice versa at the end) that bookend film had something to do with it as well.
Logged

blah blah stuff blah blah obscure pop culture reference blah blah clever turn of phrase blah blah bad pun blah blah bad link blah blah zzzz.....
Trevor
Adorable Chief Troublemaker at Badmovies.org
B-Movie Kraken
*****

Karma: 832
Posts: 10702



WWW
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2007, 06:17:36 AM »

 TeddyR Hi there to all from a very hot Pretoria ~ a nice s**tty, sorry, city but built in a dip so that all the cool air rushes overhead. I wish they allowed us some  beer  Drink at work, but all we have is water.  Hatred

Sorry, Yaddo, I forgot about The Wilby Conspiracy that was also banned ~ as far as the then SA govt were concerned, Sidney Poitier did not exist, almost all of his films were banned and I also forgot about  Lillies of The Field. "Total Recall" was banned for its' violence, but, yeah, I suppose that the Censors could have seen something else in the film. Almost any film, book or publication that challenged what the then govt knew or believed was banned or restriction. Heaven forbid that you should have a yoga manual or a how-to guide on sex for sale in your shop ~ jail awaited you for that.  Bluesad

"The Wild Geese" was made largely in SA and the producer told the govt that there was to be no apartheid on set ~ everyone would live and work and eat together and they accepted this. It was a huge hit when released here ~ my place of work still has it on 16mm film! TeddyR

"Soldier Blue" was again banned for its' violence but the films that the local industry were making at the time were just as violent, if not more so. Double standards, you see? But the race implications could have also been a cause.

Since TV was introduced to SA in 1975, I believe that there are some people in this country who are only getting used to it now.
Logged

RCMerchant
Bela
B-Movie Kraken
*****

Karma: 0
Posts: 10661


"Charlie,we're in HELL!"-"yeah,ain't it groovy?!"


WWW
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2007, 06:46:00 AM »

Wow.I find this all very fascinating.So now are you allowed acces to films and books to the past,and if so,how diffacult are they to find  locallly? It would be exciting to experiance the discovery of new films and books once forbidden...or in the case of movies like the TRIAL of BILLY JACK,a let down....
 When it was illeagal to have these videos...did people obtain them in the underground market? And ,more to the point,did you ever get busted for such? If I'm being to nosey,just smack my nose and I'll slink away...
Logged

\"Supernatural?...perhaps. Baloney?...Perhaps not!\" Bela Lugosi-the BLACK CAT (1934)


Interviewer-"Does Dracula ever end for you?"
Lugosi-"No. Dracula-never ends."





http://www.tumblr.com/dashboard
http://www.tumblr.com/dashboard
http://rcmerchant.tumblr.com/
Yaddo 42
Frightening Fanatic of Horrible Cinema
****

Karma: 152
Posts: 1630


Where's that brick.......


« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2007, 06:59:19 AM »

Thanks again for the info, restrictions for violence seems odd to me, maybe I'm just inured to it from having seen so much on screen. Stuff like that I'd figure they just require edits before a release there rather than an outright ban in most cases, but what do I know. Like the rules the Brits used to have (still have for all I know?) concerning the use of martial arts weapons in films.

Understandable about forgetting Wilby, if it was banned at the time. Is it common available there now, or is it so old it's forgotten or overlooked? It's little seen here in the US, rarely turned up on TV when 70s films were fairly common, in my experience anyway. I only found a copy at one video store after being on my wish list for years after reading good reviews in film books.

Here's to cold beer after work then. Cheers
Logged

blah blah stuff blah blah obscure pop culture reference blah blah clever turn of phrase blah blah bad pun blah blah bad link blah blah zzzz.....
Trevor
Adorable Chief Troublemaker at Badmovies.org
B-Movie Kraken
*****

Karma: 832
Posts: 10702



WWW
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2007, 07:49:43 AM »

Hi RC and Yaddo

Yes, thankfully, the era of the PCB and the PAB (1933 ~ 1993) has long since gone and the only films and publications that are banned (and here I agree with the bannings) are those that contain images of what our present censor board deem to be indecent, such as bestiality and child abuse, etc. No films have been banned or cut since 1994. Adult magazines are freely available as are adult films ~ if I had been caught back then with, say a copy of the Playboy that featured Joan Collins in all her glory, I would have gone to jail.

Those films that were banned are now freely available and looking back, one wonders what the hell the fuss was all about. The thing is, those censor boards found things to be offensive so they banned them outright ~ they even seized local filmmakers' products to check if censor cuts ordered had been effected and demanded that all foreign embassies present in SA submit films in their holdings to the boards for censorship or seizure.

I was never busted for possession of these but I know people who were ~ those were difficult times. I remember staying in a boarding house in 1987 in Pretoria when I studied there and I had a beautiful life size poster of Samantha Fox (wearing a black swimming costume) on my cupboard door and was told that if I did not remove that "pornography" from the door, I would be out on my ass. I removed it and put Sammie up inside the cupboard.  TeddyR
Logged

Pages: [1]
Badmovies.org Forum  |  Other Topics  |  Off Topic Discussion  |  South African censorship for Yaddo and all the peoples here « previous next »
    Jump to:  


    RSS Feed Subscribe Subscribe by RSS
    Email Subscribe Subscribe by Email


    Popular Articles
    How To Find A Bad Movie

    The Champions of Justice

    Plan 9 from Outer Space

    Manos, The Hands of Fate

    Podcast: Todd the Convenience Store Clerk

    Faster, Pussycat! Kill! Kill!

    Dragonball: The Magic Begins

    Cool As Ice

    The Educational Archives: Driver's Ed

    Godzilla vs. Monster Zero

    Do you have a zombie plan?

    FROM THE BADMOVIES.ORG ARCHIVES
    ImageThe Giant Claw - Slime drop

    Earth is visited by a GIANT ANTIMATTER SPACE BUZZARD! Gawk at the amazingly bad bird puppet, or chuckle over the silly dialog. This is one of the greatest b-movies ever made.

    Lesson Learned:
    • Osmosis: os·mo·sis (oz-mo'sis, os-) n., 1. When a bird eats something.

    Subscribe to Badmovies.org and get updates by email:

    HOME B-Movie Reviews Reader Reviews Forum Interviews TV Shows Advertising Information Sideshows Links Contact

    Badmovies.org is owned and operated by Andrew Borntreger. All original content is © 1998 - 2014 by its respective author(s). Image, video, and audio files are used in accordance with the Fair Use Law, and are property of the film copyright holders. You may freely link to any page (.html or .php) on this website, but reproduction in any other form must be authorized by the copyright holder.