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« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2016, 09:55:18 AM »

It seems like I'm directly comparing Phantom with the original movies, and I think I'm justified in doing so.  The first trilogy created a universe with a particular look.  Following/prequeling movies should retain something of that look to maintain a kind of continuity, and I don't think they did it right.

All this talk is making me want to watch through the whole six movies again.

I think that the prequels really just had weaker writing and direction than the original trilogy. There's only so much that even great actors can do with a bad script, and poor direction can get poor performances from them, as well.
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« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2016, 05:15:33 PM »

Phantom is shot in flat and dull ways, the performance are mostly terrible, the plot is way too complicated and dull, the side characters are annoying, the dialogue is awful, there is no focus, the plot doesn't make a lot of sense, it has no heart. Just... Ugh.  The action sequences are decent, about all I can say, but even they're mostly lacking in tension as they are always undercut by the storytelling or performances.

Good score though.
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« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2016, 05:19:34 PM »

Phantom is shot in flat and dull ways, the performance are mostly terrible, the plot is way too complicated and dull, the side characters are annoying, the dialogue is awful, there is no focus, the plot doesn't make a lot of sense, it has no heart. Just... Ugh.  The action sequences are decent, about all I can say, but even they're mostly lacking in tension as they are always undercut by the storytelling or performances.

Good score though.

The first and last thirds are great.  The entire middle of the movie, however, blah.  Also, Annakin was terrible.  I didn't mind Jar-Jar or the Gungans.
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« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2016, 06:19:50 PM »

I'll start by saying-I enjoyed the movie.   I really did.  But it was one of those movies where the flaws are also really obvious. And by now, most of what I would say about the movie has been said by someone else.

But the one thing I noticed that nobody else seemed to was that some of the characters, (particularly Finn)  talked a little too modern and didn't seem to fit in the Star Wars universe.  Like how Finn questioned how Han could understand Chewbacca.   Or when Han tried to get Finn to turn around to see Rey, Finn went into a "What are you doing with your head.  You tryn' to tell me something"  Can't remember the exact dialog.  The dialogue wasn't bad but for some reason it felt out of place to me.

It's like if at the end of LOTR, after the earthquake destroys the army  of Mordor,  Legolas turned to Gimli and said"  Well....that just happened"

Anyone else disappointed by the fact Senator Snoke only appeared that big because  he was a hologram, and this movie missed an awesome opportunity to hve a giant sized force user.

And I'm calling it right now.  This will be the movie trilogy that officially brings the Star Wars characters to Earth.  All that talk about the planet Luke is on being in an unexplored region of space.  I really think Luke is on ancient Earth at the end.  I've heard the planet's named something else in the script or the novelization-but I'm not buying it.   
 
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« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2016, 10:05:55 AM »

And I'm calling it right now.  This will be the movie trilogy that officially brings the Star Wars characters to Earth.  All that talk about the planet Luke is on being in an unexplored region of space.  I really think Luke is on ancient Earth at the end.  I've heard the planet's named something else in the script or the novelization-but I'm not buying it. 

Are you joking? Or did "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away" go right over your head?
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« Reply #20 on: February 04, 2016, 04:37:42 PM »

And I'm calling it right now.  This will be the movie trilogy that officially brings the Star Wars characters to Earth.  All that talk about the planet Luke is on being in an unexplored region of space.  I really think Luke is on ancient Earth at the end.  I've heard the planet's named something else in the script or the novelization-but I'm not buying it. 

Are you joking? Or did "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away" go right over your head?

Those are where the movies start-not necessarily where they end. They have ships that are capable for long space travel.  And Earth did appear in the Star Wars EU.  One novel, even shows that the humans in Star Wars are descended from the humans of Earth THX1138, who escaped back in time to avoid their totalitarian society.  So its not without precedent.     
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« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2016, 12:50:45 PM »

Phantom Menace: Theocrat kidnaps kid into authoritarian regime; doesn't end slavery ...and something about trade route taxation issues and characters bumbling their way into success (ad nausea), lol.

Still, it was better than Attack of the Clones (except any scene with Christopher Lee or Ian Mcdiarmid).
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« Reply #22 on: Today at 12:46:35 AM »

And I'm calling it right now.  This will be the movie trilogy that officially brings the Star Wars characters to Earth.  All that talk about the planet Luke is on being in an unexplored region of space.  I really think Luke is on ancient Earth at the end.  I've heard the planet's named something else in the script or the novelization-but I'm not buying it. 

Are you joking? Or did "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away" go right over your head?

Those are where the movies start-not necessarily where they end. They have ships that are capable for long space travel.  And Earth did appear in the Star Wars EU.  One novel, even shows that the humans in Star Wars are descended from the humans of Earth THX1138, who escaped back in time to avoid their totalitarian society.  So its not without precedent.     

I guess it's not 100% clear, but the star maps showing the route to the planet certainly looked like the same galaxy to me.
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« Reply #23 on: Today at 05:43:05 AM »

The Christopher Lee character in Attack of the Clones really should have been fleshed out way more: a disillusioned Jedi who thinks the Republic has lost its way and is trying to fix things by working outside of the system would have been a really cool way to go [its kind of hinted at but then he's working with the person ruining the republic so it goes a bit sideways from there] Still his character would have been a great lead in for how Anakin turned but sadly isn't how they fleshed it out.
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