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Question: Which was your favorite of the Star Wars Trilogy? Yes TRILOGY! (Pre Jar Jar)
A New Hope - 14 (40%)
The Empire Strikes Back - 14 (40%)
Return Of The Jedi - 4 (11.4%)
Hated Them All - 2 (5.7%)
Jar Jar is not in these so...none - 1 (2.9%)
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« on: September 25, 2007, 11:42:28 PM »

Probably my favorite three movies of all time. I grew up on these movies. I have seen these movies more times than I can count! Just wanted to know what you guys thought!
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« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2007, 11:56:03 PM »

I picked IV: A NEW HOPE.  The only REAL Star Wars, imo.
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« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2007, 01:01:55 AM »

For me it was always Return of the Jedi, followed by A New Hope, and I didn't like Empire Strikes Back so much, , but now it's my favorite of the three, which are three of my favorite movies.
I have to say though, that I've become as much of a fan of The Matrix trilogy as I am a Star Wars fan, maybe moreso. In part because G.L. seems to be retrospectivly ruining much of 4, 5, &6 with crap in 1, 2, &3, mostly Ep1.

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« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2007, 02:24:59 AM »

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Which was your favorite of the Star Wars Trilogy? Yes TRILOGY! (Pre Jar Jar)

The 'proper' title for the first movie is "Star Wars".   "A New Hope" was the rerelease's title.

I voted for Empire.  It's my opinion that Empire is much improved over Star Wars in almost every way (acting, special effects, sets, character development, storyline etc...).  I didn't like Jedi too much.  It just seemed to me to be aimed at little kids.  Yeah, I know there was a lot of violence and even a little sexuality, but those damn Ewoks and the fairy tale happy ending?

Speaking of Return of the Jedi, there is a scene in it that I heard about but cannot seem to find.  From Michael Abrash's "Zen of Graphics Programming":

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Consider this: At the end of Return of the Jedi, in the battle to end all battles around the Death Star, there is a sequence of about five seconds in which several spaceships are visible in the background.  One of those spaceships (and it's not very far in the background, either) looks a bit unusual.  What it looks like is a sneaker.  In fact, it is a sneaker ---- but unless you know to look for it, you'll never notice it...

I assume the rerelease had it edited out, but I've looked on the rererelease of the original version on DVD and can't find it there either.  I guess I'll have to find an old VHS copy somewhere.
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« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2007, 02:58:50 AM »

For me, it'll always be A New Hope.

Don't get me wrong, I like all of the Star Wars films.  Even the prequels.
But for me, the only true Star Wars movie is Episode 4.

One thing I don't get is everyone saying that Empire is the best.
It's good...but it doesn't compare to the original in my opinion.

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« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2007, 04:10:50 AM »

I voted for HATED THEM ALL, but this really isn't true.  It's just that, 30 years later, I am sick of them all.  However, back in the day during their original theatrical releases, A NEW HOPE was definitely the most exciting from an audience reaction standpoint.  People in the (sold out and very crowded) theater were clapping and cheering during the attack on the Death Star . . . much like the audience reaction at the end of the original ROCKY.  I think all 3 movies were fairly equal in quality, but A NEW HOPE gets a slight edge because of the great theatrical experience I had with that one.
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« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2007, 04:47:51 AM »

 I can't vote...being the only STAR WARS movie I ever  saw was  the first  one...the original. I thought it was ok-but got burnt out on it...it became  overhyped...! TV specials, toys,cards,fast food wrappers...ugh! But I soon HATED it...because it led to the death of one of my favorite things-Famous Monsters of Filmland. Now...I suspect Jim Warren had everything to do with the overkill aspect of this...as the once cool back pages ads became clogged with ST merchandise...and every f#cking issue had Darth Vader on the cover...I quit buying it! No more Gogos covers,...just  STAR WARS!!!!ARGHHHH!!!! STAR WARS THIS STAR WARS THAT!!!ARGHHHH!!! AH!AH! AH! AHH!!! OH GOD PLEASE BURY ME IN THE DIRT!!! STAR HORRORS!!!   Hatred HEEHEEEHEEE!!!! CRURSHKILLDESTROY!!!DANGER YOUNG ROBINSON!!!!!  Twirling AKAKAKAK!!!! SEXVAMPIREBATBITES!!!
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« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2007, 07:10:06 AM »

Calm down, RC.  Here's a lollipop.  It's okay, now  TeddyR TeddyR

As for this:


The 'proper' title for the first movie is "Star Wars".   "A New Hope" was the rerelease's title.


I saw STAR WARS in the theatre during it's original run, and I *DO* have a vague recollection of the opening, scrolling, title sequence saying "Episode IV: A New Hope."  I know that my somewhat old and battle worn VHS copy (made pre-DVD days) has this sequence.

Anyone else remember this specificically from the theatrical run?

Anyway, though I am firmly in the "original plan was only one movie, all others tacked on" camp, I do also believe there is at least some basis for calling the first one A NEW HOPE that has nothing to do with later re-releases.  I think now (and thought at the time) the use of calling it Episode IV was just a gimmick to make the story sound bigger than it really was, as at the time, STAR WARS was NOT expected to do well.
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« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2007, 07:28:50 AM »

My favorite was Star Wars.  Empire was almost as good, though the stuff with Yoda training Luke got somewhat slow, which is the only blemish on an otherwise great movie.  Jedi wasn't in the same league, like GoHawks said, it seemed like it was aimed much more towards little kids.  The big space battle at the end was pretty cool though, no doubt about that.
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« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2007, 07:42:14 AM »

I'll have to go with NEW HOPE.

EMPIRE STRIKES BACK was the better film, but I just have to go with the first film and it's original public effect on people.
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« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2007, 08:05:42 AM »

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...because it led to the death of one of my favorite things-Famous Monsters of Filmland.


That's when I stopped buying them, too.

One of the last issues in the original run had a big picture of E.T. on it. Served 'em right!

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« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2007, 08:11:49 AM »

I voted for Episode IV: A New Hope. It is the original, and the others simply don't measure up to it in my opinion. It works best as a standalone movie, and it best shows the work of a "hungry" director (one that is trying to do the best possible work on the smallest possible budget, and who therefore has to improvise and pay more attention to what he's doing). By the time of Jedi, Lucas was a major celebrity, and the hunger to do his best work was sated to some degree. By the time he felt technology had caught up with his vision enough to do the prequels, he was too well off to delve into the creativity that had spawned the original, and we got Jar Jar.

When it was made, it was titled with the ep. IV subtitle. Lucas envisioned three sets of trilogies, though I don't recall why he started with ep. IV. The idea was to trace the journey of C3PO and R2D2 in three major story arcs. Not that they would be the stars of the story, but they were to be the only characters that were present throughout the series. The first three episodes traced the rise of Obi Wan and Vader. Those characters are killed off in the second trilogy, and the rise of Luke, Leia and Han are presented. The third trilogy was to trace the story of Luke's child and bring the overall story arc to a close. Thankfully, even Lucas is sick of the movies and has abandoned plans to complete his original vision.
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« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2007, 10:22:06 AM »

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Which was your favorite of the Star Wars Trilogy? Yes TRILOGY! (Pre Jar Jar)

The 'proper' title for the first movie is "Star Wars".   "A New Hope" was the rerelease's title.

I voted for Empire.  It's my opinion that Empire is much improved over Star Wars in almost every way (acting, special effects, sets, character development, storyline etc...).  I didn't like Jedi too much.  It just seemed to me to be aimed at little kids.  Yeah, I know there was a lot of violence and even a little sexuality, but those damn Ewoks and the fairy tale happy ending?

Speaking of Return of the Jedi, there is a scene in it that I heard about but cannot seem to find.  From Michael Abrash's "Zen of Graphics Programming":

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Consider this: At the end of Return of the Jedi, in the battle to end all battles around the Death Star, there is a sequence of about five seconds in which several spaceships are visible in the background.  One of those spaceships (and it's not very far in the background, either) looks a bit unusual.  What it looks like is a sneaker.  In fact, it is a sneaker ---- but unless you know to look for it, you'll never notice it...

I assume the rerelease had it edited out, but I've looked on the rererelease of the original version on DVD and can't find it there either.  I guess I'll have to find an old VHS copy somewhere.




Calm down, RC.  Here's a lollipop.  It's okay, now  TeddyR TeddyR

As for this:


The 'proper' title for the first movie is "Star Wars".   "A New Hope" was the rerelease's title.


I saw STAR WARS in the theatre during it's original run, and I *DO* have a vague recollection of the opening, scrolling, title sequence saying "Episode IV: A New Hope."  I know that my somewhat old and battle worn VHS copy (made pre-DVD days) has this sequence.

Anyone else remember this specificically from the theatrical run?

Anyway, though I am firmly in the "original plan was only one movie, all others tacked on" camp, I do also believe there is at least some basis for calling the first one A NEW HOPE that has nothing to do with later re-releases.  I think now (and thought at the time) the use of calling it Episode IV was just a gimmick to make the story sound bigger than it really was, as at the time, STAR WARS was NOT expected to do well.

When George Lucas wrote the book it was titled simply "STAR WARS". By the time the movie came into production  he had already written sequels to the "STAR WARS" book. Once it hit the big screen it received the part number and "A NEW HOPE"
There you have it.....the nerd comes out. TeddyR
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« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2007, 11:24:39 AM »

I had to go with Empire although the 8 year old version of myself in the 80s would have gone with Return.  Watching Return as an adult really puts in to perspective the ridiculous nature of the Ewoks helping to trump the empire.  Empire I thought had a wonderful dark feel to it. 
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« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2007, 03:09:32 PM »

I voted for Episode IV: A New Hope. It is the original, and the others simply don't measure up to it in my opinion. It works best as a standalone movie, and it best shows the work of a "hungry" director (one that is trying to do the best possible work on the smallest possible budget, and who therefore has to improvise and pay more attention to what he's doing). By the time of Jedi, Lucas was a major celebrity, and the hunger to do his best work was sated to some degree. By the time he felt technology had caught up with his vision enough to do the prequels, he was too well off to delve into the creativity that had spawned the original, and we got Jar Jar.

When it was made, it was titled with the ep. IV subtitle. Lucas envisioned three sets of trilogies, though I don't recall why he started with ep. IV. The idea was to trace the journey of C3PO and R2D2 in three major story arcs. Not that they would be the stars of the story, but they were to be the only characters that were present throughout the series. The first three episodes traced the rise of Obi Wan and Vader. Those characters are killed off in the second trilogy, and the rise of Luke, Leia and Han are presented. The third trilogy was to trace the story of Luke's child and bring the overall story arc to a close. Thankfully, even Lucas is sick of the movies and has abandoned plans to complete his original vision.


I remember reading that as a kid. The droids were supposed to be the eyes of the story. I still might have that article at my folks house.

I voted for Empire. I love the original trilogy. Still my favorite movies ever - that and Conan and Excalibur. I didn't like Episodes 1 and 2 but 3 was just as good as 4,5 and maybe better than 6. (never really liked the Ewoks)
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