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« on: December 20, 2007, 07:40:47 AM »

This is something that has always bugged be for a while, make a sequel to a film but it has nothing to do with the previous films that came before it.  Some examples are:

Bloodfist 3-8.  Each sequel has nothing to do with the previous films, and in my opinion are not needed. 

Kickboxer 3 - Has nothing to do with Kickboxer 1 or 2 and is never metioned in 4 to 5, so I consider Kickboxer 3 to be non canon.

No retreat, no surrender 2-5 - This films have nothing to do with the first film.

I know there are other ones, but I can't think of them right now.
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« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2007, 08:17:33 AM »

If it has nothing to do with the previous film, then I don't consider it a sequel.
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« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2007, 09:41:47 AM »

One that comes to mind right away...Halloween 3....what the hell were they thinking?
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« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2007, 10:17:16 AM »

One that comes to mind right away...Halloween 3....what the hell were they thinking?

They were thinking "we can make a lot more money off this if it rides on the coattails of those other two movies."

I don't mind if a series of movies has a single title and common theme, but no other connection, as long as it was the intention to begin with. That works under the right circumstances, much like an anthology. But don't continue your story for a couple of movies, then change. That's sloppy at best, and at its worst it borders on fraud.

Halloween 3 is not that bad standing on its own, and if the Halloween films had been a series of stand-alone stories, it wouldn't get trashed quite so much. It sucks because we wanted more Michael.
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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2007, 12:38:32 PM »

If it has nothing to do with the previous film, then I don't consider it a sequel.

I technically don't call it a true sequel if that is the case.  I ususally call it a non canon sequel.
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« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2007, 12:49:41 PM »

One that comes to mind right away...Halloween 3....what the hell were they thinking?

They were thinking "we can make a lot more money off this if it rides on the coattails of those other two movies."
I think you mean House 3 Buggedout, wasn't Halloween 3 actually brought up by John Carpenter and the producers' decision to not turn Halloween into a yearly anthology thing what made him leave further films?
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« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2007, 12:56:45 PM »

I never saw House 3...I stopped mid way through the second one.

I am not sure about the circumstances around Halloween 3 and as AndyC said...it's not really a bad movie overall...but man...to stick it in that series...ridiculous.
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« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2007, 12:49:58 AM »

This is something that has always bugged be for a while, make a sequel to a film but it has nothing to do with the previous films that came before it.  <snip>  I know there are other ones, but I can't think of them right now.


This one immediately leaped to mind:  Flesh Gordon 2.  (Full Disclosure:  I only watched part of it once; I ripped it out of the VCR when Flesh started having sex with the chicken.)

All four Deathstalker (I, II, III, IV) movies were produced by Roger Corman, but other than that (and the name of the main character) they really have nothing to do with each other.
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« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2007, 01:10:47 AM »

What about all the Invisible Man movies that came after the original? They wernt related at all! And how about THIS doozie?!


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« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2007, 01:30:10 AM »

Do the Xtro sequels have anything to do with the first one? I never could sit through all of the second one and didn't see anything that had anything to do with the first one, confusing and odd as it is.

I haven't seen one in a while, but are the soft-core/horror Witchcraft films connected at all after the first couple?
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« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2007, 02:20:11 AM »

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According to IMDb, House 3 was originally released as The Horror Show and retitled to House 3 for non-U.S. markets. I remember that quite confusing me when I saw House IV (a terrible movie) on the shelf with no recollection of House 3.
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« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2007, 06:08:04 AM »

This is something that has always bugged be for a while, make a sequel to a film but it has nothing to do with the previous films that came before it.  <snip>  I know there are other ones, but I can't think of them right now.


This one immediately leaped to mind:  Flesh Gordon 2.  (Full Disclosure:  I only watched part of it once; I ripped it out of the VCR when Flesh started having sex with the chicken.)




I am curious about watching Flesh Gordon 2, only because Vince Murdocco is in it.
Troll 2


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« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2007, 08:38:19 AM »

The deal with Halloween 3:

The Halloween movies were originally supposed to be standalone features, connected only by their occurrence on Halloween.  Then the first one was SUCH a huge success, single-handedly spawning the American slasher film, that the producers insisted that the next one be a direct sequel.  Carpenter acquiesced.  By the time they got to Halloween 3 and Carpenter tried to bring the series back to his "anthology" idea, the name "Halloween" had become so associated with Michael Myers that it confused the hell out of the public, and so the idea of an anthology series was dropped in favor of the continuing adventures of a guy in a William Shatner mask.
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« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2007, 10:54:53 AM »

The deal with Halloween 3:

The Halloween movies were originally supposed to be standalone features, connected only by their occurrence on Halloween.  Then the first one was SUCH a huge success, single-handedly spawning the American slasher film, that the producers insisted that the next one be a direct sequel.  Carpenter acquiesced.  By the time they got to Halloween 3 and Carpenter tried to bring the series back to his "anthology" idea, the name "Halloween" had become so associated with Michael Myers that it confused the hell out of the public, and so the idea of an anthology series was dropped in favor of the continuing adventures of a guy in a William Shatner mask.

Thats really a shame. I wouldve really like to have seen an anthology style movie franchise instead of a franchise in which they whore the original idea to its limit until each sequel becomes crappier than the last.
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« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2007, 12:07:30 PM »

The worst offender ever IMO was HIGHLANDER 2.  I was never so offended by a sequel.
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