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« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2007, 03:23:48 PM »

breasts.WHY does a horror movie HAVE to have gratuitous boob shots?or shirtless men?if it isn't a plot point,and it NEVER is,can't we just watch a scary movie????yeah,i'm old and b***hy,i know,but i'll take a great horror movie with no nudity over a mediocre movie with nudity anytime!mind you,i'm hardly a prude,i just don't see the point,you know?and i shouldn't qualify,it's not just horror movies that do this...i guess it's about the money,isn't it?
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« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2007, 05:57:33 PM »

breasts.WHY does a horror movie HAVE to have gratuitous boob shots?or shirtless men?if it isn't a plot point,and it NEVER is,can't we just watch a scary movie????yeah,i'm old and b***hy,i know,but i'll take a great horror movie with no nudity over a mediocre movie with nudity anytime!mind you,i'm hardly a prude,i just don't see the point,you know?and i shouldn't qualify,it's not just horror movies that do this...i guess it's about the money,isn't it?
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« Reply #17 on: December 23, 2007, 07:12:10 PM »

Agreed, I can't begin to express how much the typical neo-B film has desensitized me to breasts in cinema. What?! How can a man say that?! You see something often enough, there's a chance you'll grow bored or used to it- such is the case of the typical breast shot in a B-movie. It becomes an embarrassment to your cinematic pursuits. That's a f--king thing going around eating people, don't stop to take your clothes off, that's just peeling its food for it, which I doubt it even remotely cares about; you're just going to find Ashley's bra and flip-flops in a pile of monster poop anyway. It got to the point where every single time a grinning teen-queen offs her top I'd roll my eyes. "Looks like another one couldn't come up with anything compelling."

"No wait, I'm about to finally reveal who the killer is! Wait, look: breasts! Come back, come back!"
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« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2007, 08:08:33 PM »

Any film where the rampaging creature is just a normal animal that hasn't been supersized by science or grown unnaturally large on its own. A tiger got loose from a tranport and is killing folks? Yawn. Now, if it was a 20 foot tall tiger...
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« Reply #19 on: December 24, 2007, 11:45:03 AM »

Re:  The Boob Convention:
Roger Corman once famously stated that he could get any film distributed/make money with any movie wherein the girl popped her top in the first 10min.
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I can't believe I'm breaking with the pack on this issue -- No, if I examine my heart, I must say that a bit of boobage goes a looonnngg way in raising my tolerance bar for a pewy film -- and, yes, like a good 12-year old, I will sit through some pretty rough sludge if the promise of boobage is being held out.  So, I cannot say that this is a B-movie hook that I detest.
On topic:  Did anyone see that teenage vacation movie with Michelle Trachtenberg?  There are several scenes that make fun of the overuse of gratuitous nudity in B films, including an extended hot-tub sequence that is very funny.
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« Reply #20 on: December 24, 2007, 03:56:53 PM »

it's nice to know there are men who agree with me!peter/denny,i get your point too,in some cases it's the ONLY thing that makes a movie watchable for most of its paying audience,lol! i mean no insult,believe me,but it IS true that most newer horror movies are geared towards that exact male audience,the 12 year olds,and the guys who still remember being 12...ONLY in that sense,of course...i know plenty of women who adore 300,just for the male t&a,you know?
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« Reply #21 on: December 24, 2007, 04:23:20 PM »

Not to derail this thread further, but I would also throw my hat in for the pro-nudity vote. True, I would rather watch a great movie with no nudity than a mediocre movie with T&A galore, but I still love to watch great movies with T&A galore.

Also, the new crop of teen horror films jump started by Scream did away with most of the nudity, and those are horrible movies without the redeeming quality of naked ladies. That seems to have changed with this new bunch of Hostel clones, but those also aren't very good.

Plot points I don't like. The overuse of incompetent authority figures who either don't believe the main characters or are hostile to them to the point of absurdity. Final jump cuts that show the monster isn't really dead and is ready for a sequel (Final Destination movies excluded). Sassy sidekicks.
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« Reply #22 on: December 24, 2007, 04:28:10 PM »

As far as boobs are concerned, there's nothing wrong with that!  They can only make a movie better.  I've never seen them make a movie worse, though I'm somewhat more of a leg man myself Wink   

(If you've seen this comment before, it's not deja vu.  I originally posted it in the wrong thread accidentally.)
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« Reply #23 on: December 24, 2007, 05:06:41 PM »

Plot points I don't like. The overuse of incompetent authority figures who either don't believe the main characters or are hostile to them to the point of absurdity.
Another reason why Waxwork is superior. Inspector Roberts, although having these feelings initially, is eventually brought around to Mark's side when he gets a load of the Waxwork's curator BounceGiggle
Final jump cuts that show the monster isn't really dead and is ready for a sequel (Final Destination movies excluded).
Oyy, here's a bad one... most of the time the damn sequel shows how the monster survived (sometimes in a totally different than the "jump scene" describes) anyhow!
Sassy sidekicks.
Describe what you mean by "sassy", if you mean the joke-cracking guy then I like them, it's good to have a raunchy balance for the "surviviing girl/boy type" to interact with! Plus it's usually a big toss-up on whether or not they will survive, so that's a good break from the usual predictability on who will live and die.

Oh and Ghoul, speak for yourself. You aren't a teenager with smothering parents! (Though I agree about the leg) Wink
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« Reply #24 on: December 24, 2007, 05:56:26 PM »

How about the recent crop of teen movies in which EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER is a despicable person?  hot  Movies like BULLY and HAVOC, where the parents are self-abosrbed, willfully ignorant, whiny baby boomers and their priveleged children consistently go out and embrace the most destructive lifestyles they can find!  Then everybody acts surprised when Junior's antics lead to someone getting killed and their friends all going to jail.

That being said, Anne Hathaway is the ONLY thing that made HAVOC tolerable!  Lookingup
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« Reply #25 on: December 24, 2007, 06:10:07 PM »

I am not pro or anti boob.  I won't complain about boobs.  However, if a movie's sole reason to exist is to show nudity I just want to say to the filmmakers, "Say, guys, if I wanted this I could have just watched a porno."

On the other hand, if a movie keeps alllllllmost but not quite fully exposing boobs (teeny bikinis, not panning down during shower scenes, ripped clothing, etc.) that gets on my nerves, too.  Either go all the way with it or move on!
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« Reply #26 on: December 24, 2007, 10:30:40 PM »

Final jump cuts that show the monster isn't really dead and is ready for a sequel (Final Destination movies excluded). Sassy sidekicks.

My favorite use of that goes to Monster Man, anybody else seen this genre diamond? The characters are absolutely perfect and the writer must have been a genius, my sides hurt so much!

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« Reply #27 on: December 25, 2007, 10:11:20 AM »

I'll cast my vote on the side of boobs as well.  I'll sit through darned near anything if its got really sexy babes in really sexy outfits, and if the really sexy outfits come off, that's just all the better.  Or if the sexy babe in the tight tank top falls in the water, I don't mind a bit.  Or if...well, that's probably enough examples.

Most of my detested plots have already been mentioned, the natural disaster thing that's just an excuse for a sappy melodrama, usually ridden with the most trite of cliches and just for good measure, let's make the science so stupid that it would insult the intelligence of a 9 year old.  The regular-sized insects movie, they just don't work and the swarms of CGI bugs always look silly.  The ex-hero who comes back to save the day, that's just been done to death.  And I absolutely hate any use of a camcorder in a movie.  I liked Blair Witch, but if anyone thinks that they can cash in on that success by having parts of their movie shown through a camcorder POV, complete with the low battery indicator flashing, they're an idiot.

Not really on-topic, but anyone playing with the buttons on the editing machine drives me nuts as well.  Lets have the truck fast-forward down the road, lets add a brown filter to this scene, lets use the grainy film effect on this scene, lets wash out all the colors and turn the contrast way the hell up, and lets edit it together like some extreme attention deficit disorder freak who just drank a thousand cups of coffee.  Those people need to be excised from the film making community, and perhaps from society in general.
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« Reply #28 on: December 25, 2007, 11:41:01 PM »

To be honest, I love most of the stuff mentioned. Disaster films I have a real weakness for as I will watch even the worst, most laughable drivel based around them. Also who doesn't like scantily clad bodies in a B-move? I thought that was a very common ingredient in nearly every one of them made from the 50s onwards. I can't really think of a B-movie element I detest except perhaps the 90s-2000s practice of unbelievable feminine heroines dressed in ill-fitting battle clothing. but even that I find I still watch.
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« Reply #29 on: December 26, 2007, 11:28:58 AM »

Agreed, I can't begin to express how much the typical neo-B film has desensitized me to breasts in cinema. What?! How can a man say that?! You see something often enough, there's a chance you'll grow bored or used to it- such is the case of the typical breast shot in a B-movie. It becomes an embarrassment to your cinematic pursuits. That's a f--king thing going around eating people, don't stop to take your clothes off, that's just peeling its food for it, which I doubt it even remotely cares about; you're just going to find Ashley's bra and flip-flops in a pile of monster poop anyway. It got to the point where every single time a grinning teen-queen offs her top I'd roll my eyes. "Looks like another one couldn't come up with anything compelling."

"No wait, I'm about to finally reveal who the killer is! Wait, look: breasts! Come back, come back!"
And well said!
Unkillable monsters. And the death of the entire cast, after you think someone will live...jerk movie. In TREMORS, the humans deserved to live. We need more clever 'monster fodder'. Yea, Burt,Earl and val!
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