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« on: February 19, 2008, 04:24:52 PM »




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Environmentalism Is Recycled Communism and Nazism
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Here's the essential common core of hatred and destruction in the doctrines of Communism, Nazism, and Environmentalism. Only the concretes differ, not the fundamental principle of hatred for human life and happiness.

Communism: The pursuit of individual self-interest causes monopolies, depressions, and exploitation of workers by capitalists. It must be replaced by self-sacrifice for the benefit of the working class and the Socialist State. Capitalists and landowners must be exterminated for the benefit of the proletariat.


Nazism: The pursuit of individual self-interest causes racial impurity, national decline, and exploitation of German workers by Jewish capitalists. It must be replaced by self-sacrifice for the good of the Aryan master race and the National Socialist State. Jews, Gypsies, and Slavs must be exterminated for the benefit of the German Nation.


Environmentalism: The pursuit of individual self-interest causes global warming, acid rain, and ozone depletion. It must be replaced by self-sacrifice for the good of other species – our "fellow biota" – and for the good of the planet, under the auspices of international treaties and a nascent Global Socialist State: the UN. Most of the human race must be exterminated for the benefit of exploited species and the planet. (This is what the environmentalist “extremists” already openly say. The “moderates” merely want to reduce carbon dioxide emissions by 90 percent and thereby reduce the American standard of living to that of a third world country, with a third world country’s infant mortality and life expectancy.)

SAY NO TO RECYCLED COMMUNISM AND NAZISM. SAY NO TO ENVIRONMENTALISM.


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« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2008, 05:02:27 PM »

You'd think a Professor Emeritus of Economics would write something that doesn't sound like it was written by YouTube users.
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« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2008, 06:34:25 PM »

Nothing there I didn't already know. Of course, the valid arguments are marred by the melodramatic, exaggerated fearmongering. Hmmmm, maybe he has more in common with environmentalists than he realizes.
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« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2008, 06:57:45 PM »

So...are the Enviormentalists hell-bent on world domination and genocide?  Question

 I don't see how protecting the enviorment is in any way going to hurt the human race....quite the opposite.
I don't consider my self an 'enviormentilist'...but I think he's more worried about making money and HIS self interest....he is one of those Obejective Theory guys...right? The pursuit of  personal happiness through more money and power?
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« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2008, 07:04:06 PM »

He is picking the views of the most rabid as representing the majority . . . . but still, Karma to you Lester!!!!  for sharing.

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« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2008, 07:18:19 PM »

He is picking the views of the most rabid as representing the majority . . . .



...which is the same as comparing the views of the Rev.Jim Jones as representing the Christian Religion.

 It's called misrepresentation.
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« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2008, 07:36:58 PM »

Good point, RC.  Karma to you too!!

But I will say, I think there are more kooks on the environmentalist left than there are on the religious right nowadays, and that's saying something!  Let's call in THE TRIPPER!!
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« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2008, 07:51:46 PM »

I agree on kooks on the left and kooks on the right...I'm a kook too- but I'm  just  a kook without a cause...!  Bluesad
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« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2008, 09:08:31 PM »

There was actually an environmentalist in my science class last year who, when asked if she would rather a thousand humans die of improperly tested medicine than a hundred rabbits for testing it, sh voted humans.  I say we destroy the world and let our kids sort it out!!!!!



just kidding, we just need more fuel efficient cars for me to be happy.
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« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2008, 10:27:36 PM »

You'd think a Professor Emeritus of Economics would write something that doesn't sound like it was written by YouTube users.


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« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2008, 10:30:03 PM »

There was actually an environmentalist in my science class last year who, when asked if she would rather a thousand humans die of improperly tested medicine than a hundred rabbits for testing it, sh voted humans.  I say we destroy the world and let our kids sort it out!!!!!



just kidding, we just need more fuel efficient cars for me to be happy.

At this stage, I'd settle for a recyling bin in our apartment block.  We seemed to have missed out for some unknown reason......... Question
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« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2008, 09:43:41 AM »

  I don't doubt environmentalism is more enlightened than nazism, I mean jeez.  it's just that we always have the impulse to do stuff at the state level that we could just as easily do ourselves if we so desire.  the commies could have lived communally, the nazis could have gone and had white babies in the countryside and been atheists.  environmentalists could kill themselves.

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« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2008, 10:56:38 AM »

I'm all for recycling and all that happy stuff, but not at the expense of livelihood.

There are a very few extreme environmentalist wackos here, but the ones we have are just nuts! They're right up there with the kill all the humans to save the planet ... I just tell "You go first."
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« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2008, 03:30:30 PM »

It's a bit extreme to say that every environmentalist = a nazi = a communist.  But the more extreme ones (such as Earth First!), like commies & nazis do think that the use of force to effect their goals is o.k.  And oddly enough, they are the ones calling the US government fascist.
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« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2008, 03:39:08 PM »

I think where the valid point gets lost in this is with the mention of Nazis. Too strong an example. You can't make specific comparisons of ideology, because people just don't look at Nazis that way. You can't invoke them without invoking everything they did.

That said, environmentalism does have a few things in common with fascism. The idea of a crisis too great to be resolved by anything but drastic action. Using fear of that crisis to control people. "The world is going to end unless you live the way we tell you." The "fer us or agin us" mentality. The leader who is going to save us all if we listen to him. Scapegoating, propaganda, suppression or ridicule of dissenting views, and so forth.

That has nothing to do with people wanting to reduce pollution or use resources more efficiently. We're talking about the people with political axes to grind.
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