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« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2008, 06:05:00 PM »

True, but his "Bush-isms" gave us lots of new joke material.  BounceGiggle
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« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2008, 07:23:06 PM »

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But y'know, in all seriousness there never would've been a case or an issue with the lunatic fringe had Barack Obama just presented his actual birth certificate in the first place. Trust me, this is going to nag him during his entire four years in office.

You mean this one:  http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/06/obamas_birth_certificate_yes_h.php
easily found on Google at hundreds of site across the internet? 
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« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2008, 03:37:34 PM »

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No, I'm with you on this, it'll be dismissed, best thing for America

Ha, gee, I'm shocked, too! I never, EVER would've predicted this! Imagine the infallible US Supreme Court making a politically pragmatic move, as it did when it backed slavery and segregation and American territorial expansions and denying women the right to vote. Who would have seen this coming?  Smile

But y'know, in all seriousness there never would've been a case or an issue with the lunatic fringe had Barack Obama just presented his actual birth certificate in the first place. Trust me, this is going to nag him during his entire four years in office.

I wish the man the best, though.

1. The case they denied cert for was another, similar case, not the Berg case.  They will deny that one too, if they haven't already.

2. They denied it for pragmatic reasons, but not "politically" pragmatic reasons.  Private citizens who suffer only theoretical Constitutional harm do not have standing to sue public officials.  This is a firmly established principle and the Supreme Court is highly unlikely to ever reverse it.  I'm sure everyone can see why.

3. Any lawyer who takes this kind of case knows he will lose and only does it for publicity, vanity, or insanity.

4. I'm not at all convinced Obama refused to release his birth certificate (see Tars' link).  As I remember the sequence of events: Berg says Obama not a citizen, Obama campaign releases birth certificate, Berg complains that it's a forgery and demands to see "the original", and the Obama campaign wisely decides there's no reasoning with the guy and ignore him after this point.

This case really, really annoys me.  And I was not an Obama supporter by any measure.  The same frivolous objections were brought against McCain. 
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« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2008, 08:04:09 PM »


4. Berg complains that it's a forgery and demands to see "the original"

I truly believe that if a person in his position wanted to forge their birth certificate, they could do so in very airtight way, leaving skeptics with little or no ammo for rebuttal, including the original. A birth certificate is nowhere near as complicated as money, and that gets forged all the time.

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« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2008, 10:26:40 PM »

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Any lawyer who takes this kind of case knows he will lose and only does it for publicity, vanity, or insanity.

Or maybe out of a sense of principle.

Prediction for the road: in its four years of existence, the Obama administration will be the most scandal-haunted of modern times. (And I say that without even including news from Illinois.)

And remember, I say all this as someone who always voted for Democrats.
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