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« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2008, 07:53:00 PM »

You're going to hate me for this but. .

Seems  a lot of shows I like get the can. To name a few: <...> Tremors: The Series <...>

What!  There was a SERIES?

Did I blink and miss it?

Actually I may vaguely recall hearing about this.  Wasn't it on the Sci-Fi channel?

Yup. I think it came on in 2003. It lasted a season. Michael Gross returned as Burt Gummer. Lela Lee came back again as Jodi Chang. The guy who played Melvin showed up a few times. Nancy was back but played by a different actress.

Basically it was Perfection Nevada and the area around it is constantly having paranormal activity. Desert Jack left and sold the buisness to a new guy who is a main character. Since El Blanco from pt 3 is an Endangered Species they have to have a Federal Agent, Dept. Twitchell, oversee the valley. Also Miguel's daughter (?) took over his ranch.

Overall it was fun. Tounge in cheek humor. It was kinda like the movies. I loved all the movies and would love to see the series released on DVD. Try looking online for downloads of it.

I thought it lasted two seasons.  I knew it was in trouble when they invented an episode where Jimenez's character had to hide in a watertrough.  She was wearing a wifebeater, but no bra.  Buggedout

It was a fun series, nothing to take seriously, but some good, escapist television.
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« Reply #16 on: December 02, 2008, 02:17:59 PM »

Magnificent Seven: The Series was one of the best tv Westerns ever. The cast included Michael Biehn, Ron Perlman, and Laurie Holden. It was cancelled in 2000 after lasting 2 whole years. Question
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« Reply #17 on: December 02, 2008, 02:47:08 PM »

Magnificent Seven: The Series was one of the best tv Westerns ever. The cast included Michael Biehn, Ron Perlman, and Laurie Holden. It was cancelled in 2000 after lasting 2 whole years. Question

Two seasons is a good run, actually.  Jericho lasted about that, well one and half seasons really if you don't count the BS half seasons broadcasters have started rolling with to break a season up to try to inflate DVD sales.

How about MERCY POINT or SPACE RANGERS or COVINGTON CROSS???

These were all series with great potential.  But they were never given a chance.  All were pre-empted by sports and pretty much never given a proper slot in the schedule thus they never got a audience, which means the suits that probably didn't like them anyway had a excuse to axe them.  Amazing how that works out.

Space Rangers lasted about 6 episodes, Mercy Point something like 4, and I have no idea how many episodes of Covington Cross aired.  Sadly genre series get this treatment all the time.  Viz. OTHER WORLD, SPACE: ABOVE AND BEYOND, FIREFLY, STARHUNTER, &tc.  None were given solid time slots and they were often pre-empted.

Yet the same tired old regurgitated garbage series about doctors/hospitals or cops/lawyers get virtually decades long runs (including spin-off series) while genre series aren't even given the courtesy of airing for a full season.  Worse, if a genre series does get picked up it seems like they are contractually obligated to dumb-down the stories.  Just look at what happened to SLIDERS in it's second season on or that lame attempt to revive the TWILIGHT ZONE in the wake of THE OUTER LIMITS cancellation.

Letting go of THE OUTER LIMITS was a real blunder.  Alas Showtime decided they'd rather be the rainbow network than the intellectual network so they axed their entire Sci-Friday line-up.  Idiots.
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« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2008, 02:44:33 AM »

KING OF THE HILL is in it's 13th season and is as good as ever.Though,I do miss Cotton.And what the hell is up with Luanne's pregnancy?Is she gonna have the damn thing or not?
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« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2008, 01:05:51 PM »

Funny, I lost interest in King of the Hill years ago. Hard to say why, but it happens with a lot of shows that go on for a few seasons. I think it has a lot to do with the show gradually changing from sitcom to comic soap opera. That and the stories shifting from being plot-driven to being character-driven as the characters develop. King of the Hill started off as a show that had a good assortment of quirky but relatively simple characters that got put into funny situations and reacted in their particular ways. Light but very funny, although it still tackled some weighty subjects at times. Gradually, the characters developed a history, complex layers of personality, etc., and the stories got to be about them, and started following great story arcs which made casual viewing difficult. A different show, really.
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« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2008, 03:41:34 PM »

KOTH is one of those shows I've tried to watch and never could get into it, but, there was ONE episode that really kicked butt IMO: The one where Dale digs the tunnel under Hank's house and gets his finger cut off. The part at the beginning where he was polishing the turtle (with Turtle Wax no less) was hilarious, that whole episode was.
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« Reply #21 on: December 03, 2008, 09:06:12 PM »

KOTH is one of those shows I've tried to watch and never could get into it, but, there was ONE episode that really kicked butt IMO: The one where Dale digs the tunnel under Hank's house and gets his finger cut off. The part at the beginning where he was polishing the turtle (with Turtle Wax no less) was hilarious, that whole episode was.
I was the only one in my whole group of friends who liked the show when it came on.  My friends were all like, "Yeah, this guy did Beavis and Butt-head."  Then the show came on and they're like, "It's a horrible show."

I think it's downright hilarious.  Least you gave it a shot.
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« Reply #22 on: December 03, 2008, 10:10:35 PM »

Yea, people looking for Beavis and Butthead part 2 are going to be disappointed. There are a few B&B references, KOTH had an episode called "Pregnant Paws", B&B had one called "Pregnant Pause". When KOTH was brand new people asked if B&B were going to make an appearance. Mike Judge was pretty adamant that they wouldn't in any way, , and for a while people were looking for them to show up.

I did especially like the "Pregnant Pause" episode of B&B, it's the one where Beavis thinks he's pregnant. It's pretty good, he hears two women talk about using a home pregnancy test, about how "If this thing turns color, I'll know I'm expecting". Beavis used one: "I'm pregnant! I peed on it and it turned YELLOW" or something like that. Too retarded, too funny.
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« Reply #23 on: December 03, 2008, 10:55:14 PM »

I still mourn the loss of  "Dead Like Me," "Wonderfalls," and "Freaks And Geeks".  I'm rather glad I don't have access to much TV. There's just so much dreck, even if a show has good ideas.  And I have a friend who raves about "Lost".  Sorry, folks, but in the end, they're gonna find the S.S. Minnow and a skeleton wearing Gilligan's clothes.

But the most annoying thing is that they even greenlight a show and try to kill it from the first episode. WTF? Save some money and kill it before you p**s off a sub-section of your audience by even showing them what they'll be missing in two weeks.  Heck, just make the series for the direct-to-video market, buy the air time to show the pilot and sell the damn thing to those who want it.

Actually, American television should follow the British format.  Give them 6 to 10 episodes, guarantee they'll all air and if it is a hit, order 6 to 10 more episodes with the same arrangement.  The production company can save money, the network will have a constant stream of new series and the fans won't have to dole out $60 for a full season.  But I guess "more" is better, even if you never get to see all of them. 
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« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2008, 01:31:37 PM »

There was a vampire detective show on that I was just starting to enjoy -- Was it called "Moonlight"? -- and before you could blink, it was gone -- pity.

I also liked "Arrested Development" and "The Tick" -- Strange connection story:  Phil Proctor got a recurring role as a preacher on "Arrested Development" -- the day before its cancellation was announced!  Phil played the police chief opposite me in "ROBO-mess" & also did voices on "The Tick" cartoon series, along with the rest of The Firesign Theatre members.  Phil and David Ossman were well on their way to getting me on board as a voice for "Tick", when it got cancelled as well!  Ah, showbiz . . .

There was a legendary ABC-TV ripoff of "Laugh In", called "Turn-On", that was cancelled after one episode!!  Sadly, I missed it, but I'm sure it's out there on YouTube somewhere . . .

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« Reply #25 on: December 05, 2008, 08:56:31 PM »

Also God The Devil and Bob was pretty good. Loved the episode where the Devil is depressed because God forgot his birthday again and the Devil's little minion brings in Martha Stewart to give Hell a make over.
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« Reply #26 on: March 02, 2009, 12:06:24 PM »

The biggest travesty for me is still Firefly - I love it but get angry at whatever fool pulled the plug when I watch it. I seriously can not find fault with this series, except the fact that it is too short. At least we had a film from it, although I get angry again as there is not gonna be a sequel (despite it usurping Star Wars on  several "Best Sci-Fi Film" polls, including one for a reputable highbrow newspaper here in the UK, if memory serves).

I also get angry when I stumble on Stargate and Charmed on TV, as they didn't get cancelled when they should have done - despite some high points, they went on far too long in my opinion.

Gutted to hear that Pushing Daisies has been cancelled too - this is the first I have heard of this. I am getting to the point where I am reluctant to watch new series, as I am sick of investing time and emotions in them, only to have them axed.

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« Reply #27 on: March 02, 2009, 01:15:40 PM »

I also get angry when I stumble on Stargate and Charmed on TV, as they didn't get cancelled when they should have done - despite some high points, they went on far too long in my opinion.

The STARGATE franchise is endemic of the problem with science-fiction in television.  As a genre it, and it's audience, are viewed with contempt by the "suits" so what you inevitably get is dumbed down drivel.  I think it was the National Socialists who came up with the idea that to sell a "big lie" propaganda has to be crafted to be understandable by the least intelligent citizen.  It has been said that Hollywood is run by idiots with delusions of grandeur that greenlight projects to be produced by morons who think they're geniuses.  And when you look at a show like STARGATE ALTANTIS it's hard to disagree.

CHARMED is perhaps a far better example of this sort of watered down nonsense than STARGATE SG-1, though it had it's moments.  CHARMED, from what I caught of it when it was in perpetual re-runs a few years back, seems to be all "grrl power" with a reset button.  There were never any consequences for character actions.  That sort of escapist fantasy drivel may play to a tween girl audience but, honestly, what sort of message was this imparting to that audience about actions and deeds?  Nothing good.

Even Bugs Bunny, the original un-expurgated cartoons, at least showed a carnival mirror reality.  But in CHARMED it didn't matter because the message here was by using witchy neo-pagan "grrrl power" reality would just realign itself around the wonts and desires of those "charmed" in the craft.

Or did I totaly mis-read the series?
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« Reply #28 on: March 02, 2009, 01:31:40 PM »


Even Bugs Bunny, the original un-expurgated cartoons, at least showed a carnival mirror reality.  But in CHARMED it didn't matter because the message here was by using witchy neo-pagan "grrrl power" reality would just realign itself around the wonts and desires of those "charmed" in the craft.

Or did I totaly mis-read the series?

No - I don't think so; if you did, then I did too. What also ticks me off is the "watered down nonsense" that is Charmed lifted many storylines and plot elements from Buffy, handled them in a completely inferior way and yet persistantly outperformed Buffy, ratings wise.

It's funny that you mention about there not being any consequences either, as the three episodes that I can recall that did have them (the one where Pru died, the one where Pru's policeman love interst died, and the one where Chris died) were, from what I recall the best episoded they did. I think it actually went downhill after Pru's departure as at least she broght some gravity and authority to the mix.
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« Reply #29 on: March 02, 2009, 11:00:01 PM »

It's funny that you mention about there not being any consequences either, as the three episodes that I can recall that did have them (the one where Pru died, the one where Pru's policeman love interst died, and the one where Chris died) were, from what I recall the best episoded they did. I think it actually went downhill after Pru's departure as at least she broght some gravity and authority to the mix.

Whenever an actor wants to leave a series their character gets killed off.  So you can't really count character deaths as being "meaningful" in any way since that is THE cliche these shows use to dismiss characters when an actor leaves the series.  It's really rather petty, if you think about.
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