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pancho
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« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2002, 09:45:01 PM »

C. Hill wrote:
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> And while I'm at it, this post represents a butterfly, which
> represents a bowling ball, which represents man's deep-seeded
> hatred of ranch dressing.

  Yeah,  but for it to be true Freudian symbolism it needs to have another sexual symbol.  Freud musta been a horn dog
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C. Hill
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« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2002, 09:57:54 PM »

Oh it does have sexual symbolism man, you're just not going deep enough.

And as for the ranch dressing, your id may tell you that you like it and want it, but your superego is telling you that you shouldn't.  Subconsciously you hate ranch dressing with an undeniable passion, just like every other normal healthy human being.  Also you want to have sex with your mother, but that's ok because every normal healthy human being wants that too!!!  Freud, you had lots of problems.

Anyway, what was this thread about again?  Ahh yes, why all the sex in slasher movies.  It can all be summed up thusly:
Sex Sells.  Violence Sells.  Sex + Violence sells even more than these two things by themselves.  Observe this equation:
s= sex v=violence T= teenagers, which most of these movies are aimed at :) = the fact that most teenagers enjoy this stuff.

   sv [ T/ :) ] = $$$$

Now follow this simple formula and you will find that I am probably a crackhead for posting all of that.  Any attempts to disprove or add to this formula are welcome.
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pancho
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« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2002, 10:03:27 PM »

I can't disprove your formula since it's correct I just wanted to show the variation of this formula used for action movies.   S=sex V=violence M=males T=testosterone.  M+(SVT)= Money squared.  However to find the amount of money it makes from females who aren't being dragged along by their spouse you simply use the same formula and set the money to zero.
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Future Blob
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« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2002, 01:17:51 AM »




  So, in conclusion sex and violence were put in for money's sake in the most logical order. And Freud was, to a large extent, a nut. (If you don't believe me, consider his belief in the power of nostril sex.)
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Mofo Rising
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« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2002, 04:22:15 AM »

In other words, lets all jump on psychology, there's blood in the water.

I would agree that the reason that most slasher movies include all the gratuitous sex and nudity is because sex sells.  Who is it that said that "once you've already got the R rating, all the nudity is free"?

It's when you get into the reasons why the combination of sex and violence hits such a chord with audiences that all the interesting psychological issues fall into place.  You're not really talking about the movies, but about the way the human mind responds to the movies.  That's why you can talk about the most inane movies (Friday the 13th series) and still come away with insight.  So while the basic fear of being killed by somebody with a knife is the main fear in the characters mind, there is also the all the repressed sexual stuff going on in the movie.  They're both happening at the same time, just on different levels.  Films tend to work this way.

Some filmmakers are aware of these psychological hot buttons, and they incorporate these motifs into the film.  David Cronenberg has built a career on finding increasingly more bizarre metaphors for sex.  (Not that they are what you'd call slasher films.)  And somebody else said that the less creative directors, hacks, copy the better ones.  Also, just because it wasn't intended doesn't mean it isn't in there.  Humor works that way too.

And of course your slasher film is often based on the activities of real life serial killers, whose minds are rife with all sorts of bizarrely misfired sexual ideas, frustrations and perversions.  Penetration of the flesh with a knife could very well be a terrifying inversion of the sexual act.

Anybody interested in the psychological and social ramifications of horror movies should check out a documentary called AMERICAN NIGHTMARE.  It was shown of IFC a few times, and featured most of the classic horror movies from the sixties and seventies.  It's also got a great soundtrack by Godspeed You Black Emperor.

As for Freud, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.  Remember, he did all of his work in a time and society where sexual repression was rampant.  It's no wonder it takes such a prominent role for him.
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Deej
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« Reply #20 on: March 17, 2002, 01:22:21 PM »

I think it's a ploy of the Catholic church to enforce the no-nookie before marriage rule. Notice how none of the coitus-interuptus killings occur to married couples? See....you have sex before marriage and you will be smited or smote...probably by some freak with a power tool or a harpoon gun. It's not worth it kids....abstinence really is the only way to prevent disease and decapitation!
So please...for the love of all that is holy...wait until marriage...or someone in a mask will jam a javelin up through your bed and impale you and your wanton hussy. This message brought to you by the KofC and your local crazed slasher.
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BoyScoutKevin
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« Reply #21 on: March 17, 2002, 05:32:33 PM »

What do you know. A thread where everybody is at least a little correct. Including the horror cliche, that if you have sex you die, but, if you are a vrigin you survive. (Tell that, to that little scout kid in "Lair of the White Worm," or the kids in "Cherry Falls," or Sergeant Howie in "Wicker Man." ) Which started with "Halloween." And I thought that cliche began with "Friday the 13th," which came two years after "Halloween."
But sex in horror films, did not begin with "Friday the 13th" or with "Halloween." As far as I know , it started with the original "Nosferatu" in 1922. Where a male vampire's obsession with a woman led to his death. Moral of the film: If you are a male vampire, don't have sex with a woman. They're killers.
Actually, if one is interested in sex in films, slasher or otherwise, heterosexual or otherwise, then look to horror films. They probably did it first, and did it earlier then any other type of film.
Maybe because horror films were not as regarded as highly as other types of films, they were able to fly low under the censor's radar and get away with more. That is, until they started mixing sex with graphic violence in the early '70's  or thereabouts. That's one for Freud. Enjoy!
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