Is there such a thing as a "Good" X-rated film?

[Sister Grace]

have you tried The Image; i don't remember it being x-rated but it was very provocative.

[Skull]

Is there such a thing as a "Good" X-rated film?




Yep... :)

[skuts]

Try Through the Looking Glass. It's a XXX from the 70's. Excellent production values throughout. This was the first real "porno" I ever saw and it ruined all subsequent pornos for me until Cafe' Flesh.

[voltron]

Does Baise Moi count? It's kinda like Thelma and Louise on crack with hardcore sex scenes.

[Psycho Circus]

Does Baise Moi count? It's kinda like Thelma and Louise on crack with hardcore sex scenes.

Yeah, that one's pretty out there... 

[metalmonster]

Has Anyone Seen Any Of The Softcore Movies From SEDUCTION CINEMA?


They Have Done A Lot Of "Porno with plot" Type Movies


Some Of The Movies They've Done Like AN EROTIC WEREWOLF IN LONDON , NIGHT OF THE GROPING DEAD , And THE SCREAMING DEAD Are Actually Pretty Good

[Jim H]

There's also In The Realm of the Senses, which has real sex in it between the two lead actors and is supposed to be decent.  I hear mixed things about Brown Bunny.

That one relatively high budget hard core porn pirates film is supposed to be amusing in a bad way.

I saw a film called Loaded.  It's a hard core porn film, but it actually has a storyline and developed characters.  I was curious because it's an action movie...  I'd compare its "real film" qualities to a mediocre made-for-TV action film.  Passably entertaining, a couple funny lines, the main bad guy was OK too.  Competent action scenes.  Nothing really great about it though.

But, of course, most hard core porn films are made to be center pieces for hard core porn.  They just don't care about the storyline.

[Phaedrusz]

One thing to remember is that there is no such thing as an "X" rating. There's only G, PG, PG-13, R, and NC-17 by the MPAA. Technically ANY movie can be called "X." So there's no differentiation between X and XXX, because they don't mean anything.

(I know, this wasn't always the case, but in more modern times "X" essentially means the film was not rated by the MPAA)

The reason why the NC-17 is preferred by more "legitimate" films than the unrated X rating is that the NATO (National Association of Theater Owners) and most chain renters (like Blockbuster and Hollywood Video) refuse to show or stock any film not rated by the MPAA.

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That being said, there are good ones and bad ones. Last Tango in Paris and Midnight Cowboy are incredible movies, Angel Heart and Requiem for a Dream are decent as well. I should also note that the original Dawn of the Dead was unrated. On the flip side, Showgirls should be buried in the entrails of the people that made it.

Now if your question is about "good" porn movies, there are a few out there, but in the day and age of "XXX 4 hours of 3 minute clips of XXX latex-wearing-nuns wrestling XXX goats in warm jello XXX" they are few and far between. I'm not an expert (koff) on the subject, but the best ones I've seen were from the late 70s-early 80s. Pirates is good in a cheesy, campy, bad-movie way.

[The Burgomaster]

Oh, yeah . . . I completely forgot about LAST TANGO IN PARIS.  Good call!

As for Phaedrusz's comments about X-rated movies, I remember when I worked in a video rental store during the 1980s, guys were always coming in asking about our porno collection.  "Do you carry TRIPLE X-RATED movies?  I only want TRIPLE X.  Don't give me any SINGLE X or DOUBLE X."  One guy even said, "My buddy has a QUADRUPLE X RATED movie.  I haven't seen it yet, but it must be really dirty."  These poor souls never realized that TRIPLE X (and whatever this so-called QUADRUPLE X movie was) were ratings invented by the porn industry to make their movies appear to be super-dirty.   

[Skull]

Oh, yeah . . . I completely forgot about LAST TANGO IN PARIS.  Good call!

As for Phaedrusz's comments about X-rated movies, I remember when I worked in a video rental store during the 1980s, guys were always coming in asking about our porno collection.  "Do you carry TRIPLE X-RATED movies?  I only want TRIPLE X.  Don't give me any SINGLE X or DOUBLE X."  One guy even said, "My buddy has a QUADRUPLE X RATED movie.  I haven't seen it yet, but it must be really dirty."  These poor souls never realized that TRIPLE X (and whatever this so-called QUADRUPLE X movie was) were ratings invented by the porn industry to make their movies appear to be super-dirty.   

hehe... that reminds me of a Yogi Bear cartoon as he was disguise as a 7 star general. He had more rank then all the generals :)

[WyreWizard]

If you want to know what the absolute worst adult film I have ever seen, it would have to be Invasion of the Samurai Sluts from Hell.  I swear, this film is more cheesy than the biggest cheddar factory in the world.  The movie itself had some humorous moments, like when Tracey Adams would break from script to speak to the audience.  But the rest of this film is terrible, not as bad as Devil's Rejects but its incredibly bad.  One of my favorite parts in the film is near the end when all those naked women were doing flying kicks.

[Monster Jungle X-Ray]

Cafe Flesh, a post apocalyptic adult film from 1982 where 99% of the world are sex negatives and become ill if they try it. The survivors get their kicks watching sex positives perform in the titular cafe. It is really an art film masquerading as a adult feature, with lots of inventive sets and camera work. In a weird way Cafe Flesh is almost an anti-porn porn in that the viewers/voyeurs (both in the film and at home) are made to feel like dirt for watching. Very strange and unique, the only thing that comes close to mind is the mind bending 1989 version of Dr. Caligari by the same director Stephen Sayadian (AKA Rinse Dream).

[venomx]

I like Ron Jeremy, he's so funny ... makes me laugh.

84/85 when I was about 12 or 14 I found my stepdad's old xrated vhs tapes lol, I think I remember the name ... Dracula x something like that, I loved that movie!

[vukxfiles]

How the hell can someone think critically about porn films? They aren't meant to have any story value, they're meant to be watched by lonely people, or couples

And yes, I've seen thousands of porn films, and I'm shocked the original poster of this topic hasn't

[Psycho Circus]

they're meant to be watched by lonely people, or couples

And yes, I've seen thousands of porn films, and I'm shocked the original poster of this topic hasn't

1. Porn is for everybody who "wants" to watch it, because we are human beings with certain urges. Plus, if you're "lonely" you're probably not one half of a couple and if you are in a relationship, how are you lonely??

2. The original poster of this topic said he had seen porn flicks.