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« Reply #420 on: May 16, 2019, 08:56:40 AM »

This is becoming an increasing feature of modern life. People doing something legal in one country are being arrested for it in an entirely different one should they later visit it.

It's called "extradition" and it's really nothing new. The U.S.'s first extradition treaty was signed with Britain in 1794.

Not sure what Svenghoulie's referring to, though.

Actually what I am talking about isnít extradition at all. One recent example is a woman in the UK wrote something on Facebook about her ex husbands new wife. Some time later (I think it was a year on), she went on holiday and was arrested for the comment she made.
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« Reply #421 on: May 16, 2019, 08:59:05 AM »

So this is an idea thar popped into my head: these people that are making these controversial laws, do they have the idea that they are the last of their kind and can't accept it?
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« Reply #422 on: May 16, 2019, 09:19:25 AM »

This is becoming an increasing feature of modern life. People doing something legal in one country are being arrested for it in an entirely different one should they later visit it.

It's called "extradition" and it's really nothing new. The U.S.'s first extradition treaty was signed with Britain in 1794.

Not sure what Svenghoulie's referring to, though.

Actually what I am talking about isnít extradition at all. One recent example is a woman in the UK wrote something on Facebook about her ex husbands new wife. Some time later (I think it was a year on), she went on holiday and was arrested for the comment she made.

Ah, I see. Defamation is a crime in the country where the "victim" resides (Dubai) and the ex-wife visited it. They may want to rethink those strict laws, they're going to hurt tourism.

Theoretically if you commit a crime in one jurisdiction while you're in another jurisdiction, you can be arrested if you voluntarily visit the place where the crime was committed. This really wasn't much of a practical issue before the Internet.
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« Reply #423 on: May 16, 2019, 10:06:52 AM »

I've seen a few other cases over the years. Hacking I can understand, but others have involved international trading (where those involved have been prosecuted by a third country not involved in the transaction), banking (although I have little sympathy for bankers), selling things on ebay from one country that are banned in another (even if no one from the second country bought the item).

I do wonder how far this will go.
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« Reply #424 on: May 16, 2019, 01:53:02 PM »

This is becoming an increasing feature of modern life. People doing something legal in one country are being arrested for it in an entirely different one should they later visit it.

It's called "extradition" and it's really nothing new. The U.S.'s first extradition treaty was signed with Britain in 1794.

Not sure what Svenghoulie's referring to, though.

I don't know about svenghoulie but I was referring to the alabama Handmaiden's mandatory birth law that says if a woman leave that inbred moron state to get an abortion in another state she can be sentenced t 10 years in prison in alabama for it.
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« Reply #425 on: May 16, 2019, 01:55:31 PM »

This doesn't explain how the U.S. can arrest Julliane assange for things he did in another country and have him forced over here.

What next? An american criticizes islam in america and has some guy names achmed show u on his door demanding he come with him to saudi arabia for trial and execution for it? Since saudi aragbia has delcared atheisists terrorists can american atheists be shipped off to that sandheap for trial and execution now?
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« Reply #426 on: May 16, 2019, 02:48:41 PM »

This doesn't explain how the U.S. can arrest Julliane assange for things he did in another country and have him forced over here.

What next? An american criticizes islam in america and has some guy names achmed show u on his door demanding he come with him to saudi arabia for trial and execution for it? Since saudi aragbia has delcared atheisists terrorists can american atheists be shipped off to that sandheap for trial and execution now?


I'd have to study the Alabama law to see if that's what it says and what their rationale is. Good chance it's simply unconstitutional and they expect it to be overturned.

Assange is accused of committing a crime in the USA (by aiding Chelsea Manning in hacking government computers.) The US won't be prosecuting him for the rape charges or whatever has no jurisdictional locus here.

The US won't extradite citizens to Saudi Arabia for blasphemy, but if a famous blasphemer travelled to that country they better take along their checkbook for a lawyer.
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« Reply #427 on: May 16, 2019, 03:04:00 PM »

As far as a lawyer-

More than that- they better be packin'. Look at what happened to that journalist- he's dead.
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« Reply #428 on: May 17, 2019, 12:33:54 AM »

As far as abortion goes. I don't like the idea, myself. But that's just me. If a woman want's to have an abortion-that's her choice. Who am I to tell her "No! You can't do that!"
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Better than having kids and letting them live like animals just because some drug addicted woman wants more welfare (I.E.- my first wife).
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« Reply #429 on: May 17, 2019, 11:19:24 AM »

Heres something you probably didn't know or expect: abortion is illegal in socialist (but also Catholic) venezuela.

Unfortunately that doesn't stop them from happening, in no small part because birth control is unaffordable to most people there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_Venezuela
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« Reply #430 on: May 17, 2019, 12:01:10 PM »

I think there are only a few justifiable reasons for an abortion, but I don't make the mistake of judging women who have had one. I tend to be more passionate about people who do have kids but don't look after them properly. It does p**s me off that a lot of anti-abortionists do not appear to care any for the babies once they are born though.
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« Reply #431 on: May 17, 2019, 03:54:20 PM »

that's part of the whole chitstorm going on in america right now, the same people trying to force women to have babies are also kicking living children off medicaid, food stamps and rent subsidies in droves. and they whine CONSTANTLY about" my tax dollars shouldn't be supporting"deadbeats"". those"deadbeats" are single moms, the working poor, CHILDREN and disabled people, along with the elderly.
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