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« Reply #345 on: August 27, 2010, 06:24:09 AM »

I think the problem with the news is that they care more about ratings, than keeping you informed. The truth doesn't matter when the majority of people watch your news network.

If that was true then the news will be reporting the news based upon whom could get the most information first, the most shocking first or whatever before the other news sources (i.e. the ratings game) therefore it'll never sound like propaganda.

The NEWS (today) they are trying to mold history, swiftly!  They are too busy trying to become history, they don’t care if Obama was a good leader, global warming is real or 1,000 troops die in combat…  all they want is to become part of history. Unfortunately for the NEWS, the people has the power of the Internet to check any/all resources and often times we find the news isn’t reporting with an open mind, they have an agenda and some of their issues are either wrong or half truth.

So we are questing the NEWS and this is the real problem. Therefore the news becomes a propaganda machine because they are busy protecting their reputation. And it’s all about their reputation, because if the people don’t trust or believe in the news/reporters then they don’t have the soapbox to stand.




I agree with what your saying, but there is a big competition between the news networks for ratings and its not all based on who gets the stories first, a lot of it is about how sensational they can make these stories. Just look at Fox news, they are the most biased network on television and are always getting caught for false information, but they get the highest ratings. People don't what the truth anymore, they want scandals, lies, sensational stories, what ever makes them feel riled up and angry at the world.
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« Reply #346 on: August 27, 2010, 09:34:26 AM »

I think the problem with the news is that they care more about ratings, than keeping you informed. The truth doesn't matter when the majority of people watch your news network.


If that was true then the news will be reporting the news based upon whom could get the most information first, the most shocking first or whatever before the other news sources (i.e. the ratings game) therefore it'll never sound like propaganda.

The NEWS (today) they are trying to mold history, swiftly!  They are too busy trying to become history, they don’t care if Obama was a good leader, global warming is real or 1,000 troops die in combat…  all they want is to become part of history. Unfortunately for the NEWS, the people has the power of the Internet to check any/all resources and often times we find the news isn’t reporting with an open mind, they have an agenda and some of their issues are either wrong or half truth.

So we are questing the NEWS and this is the real problem. Therefore the news becomes a propaganda machine because they are busy protecting their reputation. And it’s all about their reputation, because if the people don’t trust or believe in the news/reporters then they don’t have the soapbox to stand.





I agree with what your saying, but there is a big competition between the news networks for ratings and its not all based on who gets the stories first, a lot of it is about how sensational they can make these stories. Just look at Fox news, they are the most biased network on television and are always getting caught for false information, but they get the highest ratings. People don't what the truth anymore, they want scandals, lies, sensational stories, what ever makes them feel riled up and angry at the world.


Nothing new...

"Fatty" Arbuckle was destroyed because the scandle kept selling papers even though it was all lies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roscoe_Arbuckle
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« Reply #347 on: August 27, 2010, 09:39:31 AM »

I think the problem with the news is that they care more about ratings, than keeping you informed. The truth doesn't matter when the majority of people watch your news network.

If that was true then the news will be reporting the news based upon whom could get the most information first, the most shocking first or whatever before the other news sources (i.e. the ratings game) therefore it'll never sound like propaganda.

The NEWS (today) they are trying to mold history, swiftly!  They are too busy trying to become history, they don’t care if Obama was a good leader, global warming is real or 1,000 troops die in combat…  all they want is to become part of history. Unfortunately for the NEWS, the people has the power of the Internet to check any/all resources and often times we find the news isn’t reporting with an open mind, they have an agenda and some of their issues are either wrong or half truth.

So we are questing the NEWS and this is the real problem. Therefore the news becomes a propaganda machine because they are busy protecting their reputation. And it’s all about their reputation, because if the people don’t trust or believe in the news/reporters then they don’t have the soapbox to stand.




I agree with what your saying, but there is a big competition between the news networks for ratings and its not all based on who gets the stories first, a lot of it is about how sensational they can make these stories. Just look at Fox news, they are the most biased network on television and are always getting caught for false information, but they get the highest ratings. People don't what the truth anymore, they want scandals, lies, sensational stories, what ever makes them feel riled up and angry at the world.

You've got a point there. Additionally, people want news that agrees with them. If they hate Obama, they want news that hates Obama as well, just like the Bush haters sought news that hated Bush. People are so enslaved by their so-called opinions that they will ignore any fact that does not support their beliefs. I would bet that if I concocted a well written chain email that sounded authoritative that claimed it provided proof that Obama was born in another country, but was completely made-up, that the birthers would be wetting themselves trying to get it out to as many people as possible as quickly as possible without even thinking about verifying if the information was factual (I'm tempted to try this experiment). I use them as an example, but I'm not trying to pick on their ignorance exclusively, it's epidemic amongst the majority of Americans these days. I receive about one rhetoric-filled email a week on average, and I would not be exaggerating to say that half of them are so easily debunked with just a few minutes of Internet research that it's not even funny, yet people forward them along without even the slightest thought of checking it out first. Why? Because it echos some belief of theirs, and who wants to admit that their beliefs might not be supported by fact?
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« Reply #348 on: August 27, 2010, 11:24:14 AM »

I receive about one rhetoric-filled email a week on average, and I would not be exaggerating to say that half of them are so easily debunked with just a few minutes of Internet research that it's not even funny, yet people forward them along without even the slightest thought of checking it out first. Why? Because it echos some belief of theirs, and who wants to admit that their beliefs might not be supported by fact?

I have a friend who was always sending me those stupid emails. Leading up to the election it got crazy...several a week of the most hate filled, ridiculous BS I had ever heard.    Lookingup  It got so bad it almost ruined our friendship. After replying with a link to snopes every.single.time. she sent me something she eventually stopped doing it.



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« Reply #349 on: August 27, 2010, 01:05:52 PM »

I receive about one rhetoric-filled email a week on average, and I would not be exaggerating to say that half of them are so easily debunked with just a few minutes of Internet research that it's not even funny, yet people forward them along without even the slightest thought of checking it out first. Why? Because it echos some belief of theirs, and who wants to admit that their beliefs might not be supported by fact?

I have a friend who was always sending me those stupid emails. Leading up to the election it got crazy...several a week of the most hate filled, ridiculous BS I had ever heard.    Lookingup  It got so bad it almost ruined our friendship. After replying with a link to snopes every.single.time. she sent me something she eventually stopped doing it.

There's a lady in our neighborhood who does that.  Eventually, she said "This one is confirmed by Snopes!", which was sort of true.  Hers were the "This will KILL YOU!" type story, and the one that was sort of true was so unlikely that there was only one documented case of it happening EVER.
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« Reply #350 on: August 29, 2010, 09:48:55 PM »

people who always talk to themselves that says "why do these people live here?" f**k YOU, New Orleans is an IMPORTANT city that has actual HISTORY and it also brings in goods from the Caribbean, South America, Africa, and the occasional Germany. But here's my question: If  you dislike my city, then WHY IN THE FRIGGEN HELL ARE YOU IN IT?
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« Reply #351 on: August 30, 2010, 01:16:26 AM »


I hate it when I'm in the middle of doing something on the comp and it just stops. 

Not crashes, mind you, a crash would be something, I could just hit the reset and (usually) be okay. 

But it does this, "We're sloooooowing down to almost nothing."  Trick.  Sometimes, as if to further mock you, you can still move the mouse around, but nothing else seems to work.  It's like, "Ahhh.. dammit, nothing's happening, but the mouse is still moving!"

So, you hit the close button to try and shut down a few things, thinking that'll help, but nothing happens.  You hit the "show desktop" button, and sometimes work (or not.)  Other times it'll work, but it still has the image of whatever you just had up instead of the actual desktop (screen hasn't refreshed).  And then when (if) it finally goes into gear all the minimizing, closing, switching that you just did occurs in a blindly rapid succession.

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« Reply #352 on: August 30, 2010, 02:45:31 PM »

I really hate it when people lack the rudimentary sense to look, at least roughly, in the direction they are walking. Earlier today I was about to turn a corner in my office building, and this guy came barreling around the corner and ran right into me. Was he looking somewhere in the vicinity of where he was going? Of course not. No, his head was turned almost 180 degrees the other way. Then he looked at me as if to say I should have been looking out for him. If you had been at least cognizant of the corner you were about to turn and, maybe, oh I don't know, not walking at a near-run, we may have avoided slamming into each other, jackass.

I do see this odd behavior way more often than would seem logical, people walking, with their head turned, sometimes behind them, completely not even looking in the direction they're walking. I can understand people being a little distracted sometimes, but that's ridiculous. You would think natural selection would thin the herd a bit more.
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« Reply #353 on: August 30, 2010, 03:20:54 PM »


I do see this odd behavior way more often than would seem logical, people walking, with their head turned, sometimes behind them, completely not even looking in the direction they're walking. I can understand people being a little distracted sometimes, but that's ridiculous. You would think natural selection would thin the herd a bit more.

That's a bad habit of mine but I don't turn my head, I'm usually looking at the floor. Why I do that I don't know. So far I've only had a few near run-ins because I spot the person's feet walking in my direction mostly on time, but I always apologize and never blame the other for the startling inconvenience  Bluesad
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« Reply #354 on: August 30, 2010, 04:40:21 PM »

E-Mail Forwards! Oh thanks, just wanted I always wanted---a chain e-mail?! Thumbdown Worst of all I often get them from family. Sure a few are actually funny once in a blue moon but mostly it's people freaking out over stuff that's complete and utter nonsense or B.S. which they'd usually figure out for themselves if they didn't believe every bogus chain e-mail sent their way. Lookingup
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« Reply #355 on: August 31, 2010, 06:59:30 AM »

Graffiti.  Its one thing to spray a beautiful mural on a blank wall in an uninhabited building with permission. Its another thing to spray a bunch of crap on a private property vandalizing. 
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« Reply #356 on: August 31, 2010, 01:03:29 PM »

Relatives who impose too much and expect too much. I'm sorry but no, I can't drop everything in my life to do you a favor even if you expect I can. I don't mind someone coming to visit for a reasonable stay but when someone stays eating off of you for weeks at a time and offers nothing in way of help either monetary or just helping prepare and clean things away, well that's not going to make me look forward to seeing you again.
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« Reply #357 on: August 31, 2010, 11:46:39 PM »

Reading netflix reviews and seeing the inevitable "worse movie ever!" how many worse movies ever are there? Thousands apparently.  Lookingup 
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« Reply #358 on: September 01, 2010, 01:02:28 AM »

Boards with annonymous ratings systems.  

I ocassionally go over to another forum where I post stuff, but not too often cause the board there isn't quite as friendly as this one.  I mean, here, with the exception of one or two people (won't name names), everyone, even those who disagree with each other, tend to be polite and civil.  

Other places it can be a different story.

At this one board they have something similar to the karma system over here (applaud and smite). You get a number rating based on how many times each have been done to you (applaud is one point, smite is a negative point).  Thing of it is, unlike here, you don't have to give a reason (or even your name) for why you're adding to subtracting a point from someone, you can just do it willy nilly once a day to a single person for any or no reason.  

In fairness, you do have to be registered on the board and have made so many postings befor eyou get the option to rate other people's works, but still.  Post an intelligent, well thought out opinion that people don't like?   You can get docked.  Post a witty comment that others didn't find funny for no particular reason?  Bam, you get hammered.  In general, people on the internet are more likely to be negative than positive, often just for the fact that hiding behind a computer screen seems to embolden the Jerk Within, so a system like this is rife with people docking karma simply because they can.

I can't help but think that sometimes the numbers become less about how substainal your post are and more of a big popularity contest.  Say the right things, make the right "friend" and boom you get a big number.  (Neatly enough the forum mods all have large positive scores, but I'm sure that's pure coincidence.)

On this  other board, I've made about 55 posts, and my current score is about -17.  I know, I shouldn't let silly stuff like this bother me, but it freaking does, especially when I leave for several days, come back only to find my score is even lower, even though I haven't posted anything in awhile.  Hatred
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« Reply #359 on: September 01, 2010, 05:45:56 PM »

Boards with annonymous ratings systems.  

I ocassionally go over to another forum where I post stuff, but not too often cause the board there isn't quite as friendly as this one.  I mean, here, with the exception of one or two people (won't name names), everyone, even those who disagree with each other, tend to be polite and civil.  

Other places it can be a different story.

At this one board they have something similar to the karma system over here (applaud and smite). You get a number rating based on how many times each have been done to you (applaud is one point, smite is a negative point).  Thing of it is, unlike here, you don't have to give a reason (or even your name) for why you're adding to subtracting a point from someone, you can just do it willy nilly once a day to a single person for any or no reason.  

In fairness, you do have to be registered on the board and have made so many postings befor eyou get the option to rate other people's works, but still.  Post an intelligent, well thought out opinion that people don't like?   You can get docked.  Post a witty comment that others didn't find funny for no particular reason?  Bam, you get hammered.  In general, people on the internet are more likely to be negative than positive, often just for the fact that hiding behind a computer screen seems to embolden the Jerk Within, so a system like this is rife with people docking karma simply because they can.

I can't help but think that sometimes the numbers become less about how substainal your post are and more of a big popularity contest.  Say the right things, make the right "friend" and boom you get a big number.  (Neatly enough the forum mods all have large positive scores, but I'm sure that's pure coincidence.)

On this  other board, I've made about 55 posts, and my current score is about -17.  I know, I shouldn't let silly stuff like this bother me, but it freaking does, especially when I leave for several days, come back only to find my score is even lower, even though I haven't posted anything in awhile.  Hatred

Ah yes, the anonymous rating system (which is the reason why I ultimately decided to leave the web community centering on a certain popular team of reviewers). I personally see the idea of rating a person down without giving a reason as being cowardly and destructive to the whole idea of a community. It's like "okay, you gave me thumbs down...why? I want to know so that I can either avoid it in the future or figure out that you're just being a jerk, but I GUESS I'LL NEVER KNOW NOW, WILL I?!"
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