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« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2010, 12:47:49 AM »


Justin Bieber was a youtube fad which Lady Gaga happen to help get signed to a recording label.

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« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2010, 07:16:49 AM »

Miley Cyrus, Justin Bebier, and Jaden Smith all have very young fan bases and older kids and teens want to prove they're cool and mature by hating on them.

lol...

Not really true.

They either like them. Love them. Feel so-so about them. Or hate them.

The merit for hate itself can veries from person to person and at times it could be the complete opposite for the reason why people love them.

The hate can also could be based upon the person's point of view.

For example (and true about me):

My hatred towards the new Star Wars Trilogy is based upon the 20 year wait and the stories seemed to be put together very quickly, without the thought of the original series and without the respect that people has actually seen the original series at least more then once; I also think George Lucas can do better then that and during the 20 hiatus there has been comicbooks, books and video games that has a better (and respectful) vision towards the franchise then the prequel trilogy.

I'm not much of a Star Wars fanboy... I just dont like incompetence when there is no reason for incompetence. I just think its pure lazyness on the film maker's end. My feelings are equal with Godfather 3, as well as any dozens of remakes...



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« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2010, 07:42:21 AM »


I hate the fact that Lady Gaga is popular and it has nothing to do with envy.
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She feeds people with utter fakeness and people are buying it. I just don't get it.


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Funny thing is, I never truly hated anything with such a deep passion in my life before. Along comes Gaga and 'click' I'm like a sleeper suddenly awaken.
There was a time I wanted to smack people upside the head for listening to her music or even mentioning her name, but I'm way over that


I'm curious...

Why do you CARE what other people like, listen to or buy?

I've never liked {$INSERT_NAME_OF_POP_ICON} and express my opinion with my dollars - specifically those I DON'T spend.  Beyond that, why is it worth the emotional energy?

All of this seems like an outgrowth of a "be like me" culture.  We pay lip service to "diversity" and "open mindedness," but at the end of the day, we FIND stuff to 'hate' others for.  It used to be race or culture in general; now, it seems to be football teams, colleges, singers/entertainers, etc.

I think just about every movie board on IMDB has a thread "I hate this movie" (or some such) with at least one reply "then why are you posting here?"

It is a VERY interesting phenomenon to me - in a people watcher sort of way.
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« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2010, 08:01:26 AM »

I am a self confessed "player hater" which is something I think you are born with.  I grew up reading MAD Magazine that virtually trashed anything "cool" and even back when, I totally related to that.  Whenever I see someone like Justin Bieber making more money than me I hate on him.  My frame of mind pretty much resorts to wondering why people would invest time and money to a whiny kid with a bad haircut.  Of course my existence in this realm backfires a lot.  I've often wondered in the past why people don't like the stuff I do.  Then when it becomes popular, I end up hating on the people and product.  Logical?  Nope, its just the way I am.  The Chapelle skit made me realize it actually.  
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« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2010, 08:07:26 AM »

I think the word "hate" is tossed about too freely - as the word "love" is too.

"Hate" is used in place of "resent" "am very annoyed by" "am disgusted by" "dislike to an extreme" "can't stand" - and so on.  To say one "hates" or "loves" implies an emotional content to the reaction that in fact may not be there.

Lady Gaga and Justin Bieber are annoying because we are over-exposed to their work (which, granted, one may find annoying enough in itself!) and because we are endlessly subjected to the extreme and loud adulation of their fans.  Enough, already!

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« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2010, 09:41:11 AM »

I don't hate any of these people brought up, Jaden, Justin, Miley, Gaga. What I hate with a passion is the vapid culture that these individuals represent, call me a curmudgeon, I don't mind. But I don't hate these people. The getting out of hand that you're talking about is, I think, just an equally vapid reaction by people who lack a more mature way of expressing what they have a problem with.
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« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2010, 09:45:48 AM »


Lady Gaga and Justin Bieber are annoying because we are over-exposed to their work (which, granted, one may find annoying enough in itself!) and because we are endlessly subjected to the extreme and loud adulation of their fans.  Enough, already!



Honestly, I would have no idea who Lady Gaga or Justin Bieber were if not for this board.  Other than the posters who are still in high school (or have kids in high school), I honestly don't know where you guys hear about them.  They're just not on my radar screen.
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« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2010, 10:46:40 AM »

I think the word "hate" is tossed about too freely - as the word "love" is too.

"Hate" is used in place of "resent" "am very annoyed by" "am disgusted by" "dislike to an extreme" "can't stand" - and so on.  To say one "hates" or "loves" implies an emotional content to the reaction that in fact may not be there.

Lady Gaga and Justin Bieber are annoying because we are over-exposed to their work (which, granted, one may find annoying enough in itself!) and because we are endlessly subjected to the extreme and loud adulation of their fans.  Enough, already!



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« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2010, 10:55:36 AM »

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I think the word "hate" is tossed about too freely - as the word "love" is too.

"Hate" is used in place of "resent" "am very annoyed by" "am disgusted by" "dislike to an extreme" "can't stand" - and so on.  To say one "hates" or "loves" implies an emotional content to the reaction that in fact may not be there.
Nah, when I say I "hate" something it usually fits that definition. 
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« Reply #24 on: September 13, 2010, 11:06:52 AM »

So, in other words, do you have any idea why people hate Miley Cyrus, Justin Bebier, and Jaden Smith so much?  I'm just trying to understand this hate that doesn't seem to make sense.  No one ever really says why they hate them, they just wish the worst on these people and don't explain why! 

I don't hate these people.  I just think they are pretentious little twerps, so I just ignore them.  As they get older, my opinion may change.  I thought Leonardo DiCaprio was a pretentious twerp up to, and including, his appearance in TITANIC.  However, since then, I have grown to respect him as an actor and I often look forward to his movies now.
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« Reply #25 on: September 13, 2010, 12:17:30 PM »

Honestly, I would have no idea who Lady Gaga or Justin Bieber were if not for this board.  Other than the posters who are still in high school (or have kids in high school), I honestly don't know where you guys hear about them.  They're just not on my radar screen.

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Nah, when I say I "hate" something it usually fits that definition. 

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« Reply #26 on: September 13, 2010, 01:11:50 PM »

Honestly, I would have no idea who Lady Gaga or Justin Bieber were if not for this board.  Other than the posters who are still in high school (or have kids in high school), I honestly don't know where you guys hear about them.  They're just not on my radar screen.

*Sigh* oh to move in such a rarified atmosphere...or, on second thought: maybe not.   Wink


C'mon Newt, the air's fine up here!  I've imported a fine selection of Ed Wood and Uwe Boll movies into my ivory tower.  But Lady Gaga and Miley Cyrus look like insignificant little specks from here. 
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« Reply #27 on: September 13, 2010, 01:37:41 PM »

Honestly, I would have no idea who Lady Gaga or Justin Bieber were if not for this board.  Other than the posters who are still in high school (or have kids in high school), I honestly don't know where you guys hear about them.  They're just not on my radar screen.

*Sigh* oh to move in such a rarified atmosphere...or, on second thought: maybe not.   Wink


C'mon Newt, the air's fine up here!  I've imported a fine selection of Ed Wood and Uwe Boll movies into my ivory tower.  But Lady Gaga and Miley Cyrus look like insignificant little specks from here. 

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« Reply #28 on: September 13, 2010, 02:40:53 PM »


Lady Gaga and Justin Bieber are annoying because we are over-exposed to their work (which, granted, one may find annoying enough in itself!) and because we are endlessly subjected to the extreme and loud adulation of their fans.  Enough, already!



Honestly, I would have no idea who Lady Gaga or Justin Bieber were if not for this board.  Other than the posters who are still in high school (or have kids in high school), I honestly don't know where you guys hear about them.  They're just not on my radar screen.

Ditto. If it weren't for random anecdotes from friends/co-workers/people I talk to on the internet, I'd have no idea who these people were, either. I don't listen to the radio (except, perhaps, for the weather forecast or to check out what's playing on the campus station) and I rarely watch TV, so I've never heard any of their songs. They're not forced on you if you don't partake in mass media (and even then you can change the channel or the station).
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« Reply #29 on: September 13, 2010, 06:04:34 PM »

Lady Gaga and Justin Bieber are annoying because we are over-exposed to their work (which, granted, one may find annoying enough in itself!) and because we are endlessly subjected to the extreme and loud adulation of their fans.  Enough, already!

The problem with those two is that they TOOK over Youtube.


okay, not really, but VEVO has that stupid pic of Bieber. IT'S REALLY ANNOYING when your watching a vid and there's ANOTHER person/band staring at you, it's like your being watched when your not. Lady Gaga has just boomed the "techno pop" to new heights, which is good, but now every new FRIGGEN band has to be f**king techno pop?! Seriously, it's just doesn't make sense anymore, creativity, out of the window!  Hatred Bluesad
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