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« Reply #75 on: January 11, 2011, 01:23:53 PM »

The Wizard of Oz

Enjoyable enough, but really, incredibly, overhyped.  Not a GREAT movie by any means.

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I can think of few films as timeless and excellent as The Wizard of Oz.
I'm not saying it's a bad film at all.  In my original post I did say it was enjoyable.

But, I don't think it's 'classic.'

Sorry, Happy, I have to join in with the others.  I think it was even better than MACGRUBER!  Wink

But it's your right to think it's overhyped.  You like what you like. 
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« Reply #76 on: January 11, 2011, 04:26:16 PM »

UHF was better than MacGruber.

Dont know why but I dont like Oz as much as others.
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« Reply #77 on: January 11, 2011, 08:59:30 PM »

UHF was better than MacGruber.

Dont know why but I dont like Oz as much as others.

I'd rank them OZ>UHF>MACGRUBER.  Wink
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« Reply #78 on: January 11, 2011, 11:22:36 PM »

UHF was better than MacGruber.

Dont know why but I dont like Oz as much as others.

I'd rank them OZ>UHF>MACGRUBER.  Wink
You would. Lookingup

Then again, I'm not a big fan of many 'classic' movies to begin with but that's another topic altogether.
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« Reply #79 on: January 13, 2011, 11:18:57 AM »

THE WIZARD OF OZ is about as good as Hollywood films get.  When I was younger, and having seen OZ so many times, I started to lose interest in it, but have since rediscovered it and now find it endlessly watchable.
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« Reply #80 on: January 13, 2011, 11:28:14 AM »

Watched the entire AFI Top 100 (both lists) a couple years back.  Here were the ones I didn't like that were highly rated:

Some Like It Hot - Some don't like it at all.  Marilyn Monroe can't act and looked doped up the whole movie.  Which I'm sure she was.
Raging Bull - I don't hate this movie, but it's too much like every other Scorcese / De Niro movie, and I saw the others first.  Unfair, probably, but hey...
Apocalypse Now - I liked the spoof from The Critic a lot better - Apocalypse WOW!  Didn't see why this had to be 200 hours long.
West Side Story - I hate musicals, with few exceptions.  Singin' In the Rain is good, as is An American In Paris.  This one was not.
High Noon - zzzzzzzzz.  Somebody kill somebody already.  I hate westerns too, with few exceptions.  Stagecoach is good.
A Streetcar Named Desire - This is why we can't have nice things, Marlon.  Stop breaking things all the time!
Shane - Words cannot describe how much I hate this movie, or the awful things I want to happen to the annoying little kid.
The Searchers - Nice settings with the mountains and the sunsets and whatnot.  The rest of the movie is garbage.
Bringing Up Baby - Loved the Philadelphia Story.  Hated this movie.
Nashville - Robert Altman is the worst director in human history.
You've overlooked a few good 'uns.  First, ROBERT ALTMAN was a great director who made films that were not typical Hollywood fare. Second, SOME LIKE IT HOT is still hilarious, who needs MARILYN to act?  Question
HIGH NOON is overrated for me, too, and I love Westerns. 
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« Reply #81 on: January 13, 2011, 11:32:25 AM »

Robert Atman was a great director, but he preferred to follow his own eccentric style rather than play by rules that could have made his work more accessible. I like some of his work, such as "Short Cuts" or "The gingerbread man", but I find others of his films completely unwatchable.
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« Reply #82 on: January 13, 2011, 04:40:24 PM »

You've overlooked a few good 'uns.  First, ROBERT ALTMAN was a great director who made films that were not typical Hollywood fare. Second, SOME LIKE IT HOT is still hilarious, who needs MARILYN to act?  Question
HIGH NOON is overrated for me, too, and I love Westerns. 

I watched NASHVILLE, THE PLAYER, COOKIE'S FORTUNE, and GOSFORD PARK and couldn't stand any of them.  The missus watched PRAIRIE HOME COMPANION and despite being a huge NPR/Keillor fan, she couldn't even finish it.

From all the work I've seen of Altman's, he seems to have no idea how to capture or hold the audience's attention.  And I sat through some real stinkers on that Top 100 list, so I consider myself to have be more patient and attentive than most when it comes to slow/pensive/meditative/old movies.

Just one Mitchell's opinion.....
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« Reply #83 on: January 13, 2011, 06:25:59 PM »

I liked The Player.
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« Reply #84 on: January 14, 2011, 12:12:04 PM »

Dances with Wolves never grabbed me, probably because I had read too many westerns by Louis L'Amour and Terry C. Johnston and knew what would happen to a soldier captured by the plains Indians (it wouldn't be pretty!). If you want to see a good film dealing with native/white relations see Little Big Man with Dustin Hoffman and Chief Dan George, who got Best Supporting Actor Oscar nomination for his performance. And speaking of Louis L'Amour, the movie Hondo based on his book of the same name, is considered by many to be one of the best westerns out there.

Staying on the western theme, I would consider both the The Good, the Bad and the Ugly and Once Upon a Time the West as classics. Lots of action and the musical score for both movies is awesome and does a lot to carry both movies, at least in my view. My understanding is that Once Upon a Time the West also had a bit of shock value when it first came out. First  *SPOILER ALERT* for the the family is getting massacred and then having the leader of the killers turns out to be Henry Fonda! Both movies I can watch over and over and never get tired.

Matrix. Watched the first film and, yes, the special effects were awesome, but that was about it. Never watched any of the sequels.

As for Bonnie and Clyde, I was just a young kid when it came out and remember the outrage that the movie caused due to its graphic violence. Pretty tame compared with today's movies, but like I said, at the time it was quite controversial and ultimately a trend setting.
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« Reply #85 on: January 14, 2011, 11:20:59 PM »

The Terminator- not terrible but definitely not great by any stretch.
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« Reply #86 on: January 20, 2011, 02:01:10 PM »

I feel most of these acclaimed "Classics" are with good reason. i think that the directing, story telling and special effects for each particular time period when they were released makes them classics. In 1939 no one had seen anything like WOO so it was this awe-inspiring film of that decade, much like Blade Runner was and Psycho were. Nowadays classic films appear dated (most are of course) and lack the punch that once was for that particular time. We've seen so much and there is little to no originality anymore as far as story telling and film making goes. Those films are classics in their own right because of the impact they had made at that particular time. Unfortunately it takes much more than fancy CGI and a overly inflated budget to make an impactful film. The audience is much harder to please and capture more than ever because we have all become desensitized to special effects as well as "Old Hat" storylines.

Edit: Taste is also a HUGE factor for the replay and enjoyment of these movies.
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« Reply #87 on: January 24, 2011, 12:40:53 AM »

Not old enough to be classic, but I was unimpressed with Avatar.
Not enough story too much scenery porn.
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