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« Reply #30 on: April 01, 2011, 06:35:24 PM »

my attitude about drinking. this has been my anthem since i was seventeen.... (NSFW)

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« Reply #31 on: April 01, 2011, 06:35:51 PM »

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« Reply #32 on: April 01, 2011, 06:48:42 PM »

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« Reply #33 on: April 01, 2011, 07:57:42 PM »

I was raised in a Baptist household, and drinking was something we just did not do.
In high school, and even in my Navy days, I took my faith pretty seriously.  The Bible does
not condemn drinking, but it does condemn drunkenness.  I have sampled alcohol on a half
dozen or so occasions, and frankly, it all tastes nasty.  And I simply have zero interest in ever
being high or drunk.  I love life, I enjoy my friends and family, I have hobbies that keep me
occupied in my slack time, and lots of interesting people to chat with on the internet.  I just
don't need alcohol and don't want it.

I did lose a close friend to a drunk driver when I was in my 20's, and in the Navy I saw a lot of
very smart people do incredibly stupid things when they were drunk.  I just don't understand the
appeal of it, and never have.

Someone wants to get absolutely plastered on their own time, as long as they're not driving or
harming others?  Go for it.  Someone gets behind the wheel, or drinks while pregnant and poisons
their unborn child?  That's just wrong.  Legalities aside, it's wrong and immoral.
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« Reply #34 on: April 01, 2011, 08:48:28 PM »

I drink.  Not as much as I did, say, two years ago.  But I like to occasionally go out and enjoy myself or go to friends houses and have a few.  I never drink and drive, don't like people who do.  I shouldn't drink at all.  Given my family history with alcohol and drug abuse, and my own personal history with various substances, I should stay far far away.  I just can't though. 

But, people who don't drink, more power to em.  I've never once tried to get anyone to drink or insisted they do when at functions.  They don't want to, great.  They want to, fine.  Same with people who're worse off than me.  They wanna get loaded every night, fine.  But if I personally know they're drunk and are gonna drive, I make sure they don't do that. 
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« Reply #35 on: April 01, 2011, 09:06:52 PM »

On a personal level, I'd rather die than consume alcohol.  Of all drugs, I hate it the most perhaps because it's everywhere and so socially accepted, just a huge moneymaker for greedy corporations who really don't care about its potential consequences. Just a case in point of where I conflict with a whole lot of society especially where I live where it's considered beyond weird to be as I am, a person who's committed to live one's entire life drug free (I'm not counting prescription medication here, although I don't believe people should abuse that either). Interesting Black Flag gets mentioned. Henry Rollins is a teetotaller himself. A lot of Black Flag songs actually poke fun of the drinking culture..anyways back to where I live. If you're not a drinker here, people tend to look at you like you've got two heads but I never gave in to what others expected of me. I follow my own rules. I make my own choices. I am not a follower. I am as individual as they come. That said, I've never told others what they could/should or could/should not do. I might have pointed out potential consequences but that's all. Like Newt, I really have the most problem with alcohol abuse especially when it leads to domestic abuse amd neglect at home and in public..I've seen many families thus affected. I had a neighbor I really liked who visited who had a drinking problem and died in his 50s. He literally drank himself to death...he was so bad he couldn't control his kidneys and nearly always p**sed himself. I know people close to me, people I car e very much for who have suffered emotional and verbal abuse and neglect because one parent put their alcohol addiction above everything else. I've known men who lose their entire families, their jobs, pretty much everything and did jail time. People forget this is another drug addiction when it becomes a problem. I don't really have a problem with responsible drinkers who know when to stop but I do feel all the potential negatives of alcohol abuse makes me think the world would be better off without it. But it ain't going to disappear so more knowledge about the abuse needs to known. It can lead to severe liver, kidney and brain damage. That's just facts.

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« Reply #36 on: April 01, 2011, 11:17:16 PM »

I drink heavily on occasion but not often.  I don't like being drunk because I get giddy and overly happy.  Not necessarily bad but I also start tending to loan money out and then think where the hell did that cash go.  I hate that part of it.  I don't drive and typically do it when I won't be going somewhere other then a friends house and crash there or stay at home.  I'm not much for bars.  I also like to drink nice tequila and sample cigars.  However, if you don't I'm happy for you and I understand.  I suppose it isn't the greatest choice.  However, sadly I think we all fall into something we do that we probably shouldn't be doing. 
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« Reply #37 on: April 02, 2011, 01:56:01 PM »

that gets me in trouble. And booze works like Viagra too. so that doubles the problem. I wanna f2ck everyone when Im drunk.

Really?  That's weird, cause I always thought alcohol diminishes ones sexual capacity.  Like Shakespeare said, "It provokes the desire, but takes away the performance."

Course, maybe that's just certain types of alcohol.
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« Reply #38 on: April 02, 2011, 02:05:08 PM »

I've said it before, but I'll say it again, personally, I'm just not into drinking.  Not really for any moral or spiritual reasons it's just the alcohol I've tried just doesn't taste good, and anything you have to "get used to" in order to enjoy just seem rather silly to me (which explains why I don't smoke, or drink coffee.)

Plus, I get into enough trouble for stuff I say while I'm SOBER.  God only knows what type of crap I'd say/reveal if I were drunk.

In addition, I'm have this intense dislike of drunk people.  At least, drunk people I have to deal with at my job.  Seems to me for the most part I was get the "loud obnoxious" type of drunks rather than the quiet, introspective (or even funny) ones.  You know, like the type who think it's hilarious to drop half a box of matches down the toilet, or think they do good impression of barnyard animals and that EVERYONE ELSE wants to hear them.

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« Reply #39 on: April 02, 2011, 02:55:00 PM »

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Of all drugs, I hate it the most perhaps because it's everywhere and so socially accepted, just a huge moneymaker for greedy corporations who really don't care about its potential consequences.

it existed before corporations existed and would exist without them. the corporations are filling a want by the consumer. plus micro brews, family wineries, designer vodkas etc. it's not all just budweiser.

not that I have a problem with that either. or anything really
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« Reply #40 on: April 02, 2011, 03:07:35 PM »

I drink when there's nothing else to do.  I wouldn't say I'm an alcoholic, but I am definitely an alcohol abuser.

I'll pick up a sixer of IPA (India Pale Ale) and a sixer of regular pale ale and drink them both until they're gone.  This is usually done while playing with friends on my Xbox 360.  After I'm done with video games, I'll jump on the computer and mess around and edit my airsoft website or piece videos together from the tons of footage I've shot.  That, or I'll get on certain forums and make an ass of myself.  I've done that many times on this forum.
My drinking was at its heaviest after the death of my younger brother back in 2003.  Most of the threads I wrote on here were done when I was wasted out of my mind.  Some of them were pretty good...but I berely remember writing them.

I've cut way down since those days.  I used to drink 12-20 beers minimum in one sitting.  Now a 12 pack will do me just fine.  And no spirits!  Only beer!  And it has to be strong beer.  None of that Bud Light crap.  I only drink high end craft brews.  Usually IPA's.
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« Reply #41 on: April 02, 2011, 03:32:09 PM »

People forget this is another drug addiction when it becomes a problem.

I'm not sure how you came to this conclusion, I believe it's common knowledge that it's a drug, and thus a drug addiction when it becomes a problem. I'm not trying to be condescending, but Where I grew up, we learned it was a drug and addictive in about the 7th grade health class, which for me would be as long ago as the early 80's. I don't see where people are forgetting this. Not caring, yes. Forgetting, no.


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On a personal level, I'd rather die than consume alcohol.

Again, I'm not trying to be condescending, but if you mean this literally, then I am completely stunned. If you really feel that way, then you're taking your identity as straight edge a little too seriously. I hope you were just being overly dramatic.
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« Reply #42 on: April 02, 2011, 06:10:55 PM »

Now I've never told others what to do and I don't plan on starting now but I think people should well be aware of the consequences of their actions and I don't feel it right that society puts pressure on others to conform and fit into what they want - that I'll rebel against all my life. I don't let my choice stop me from going out and of course others have been drinking around me and I've never said anything to them or tried to make them stop. I simply drank my water and remained sober. I don't believe in violence of starting any confrontations. Honestly it's rare nowadays anyone bothers me now that it's known I don't drink. That said, I honestly prefer the atmosphere of a non-drinking all ages environment...

And yeah I meant what I was on a personal level...if a gun was put to my head, I think I'd take the bullet first.
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« Reply #43 on: April 02, 2011, 06:35:46 PM »

I post at a muslim forum sometimes. They find Christ turning water into wine to be completely baffling. I'm like" it's a celebration, it's like a social thing" blanks stares
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« Reply #44 on: April 02, 2011, 06:38:25 PM »

I drank in my 20s, a lot, but found it to be a nice way to chill out.  I find there is nothing better than kicking back a few with buds.  Also it lowers my tension towards social settings so I usually end up having a good time.  HOWEVER, and thats a big "however", theres a point where I think a person should know their limit.  They say drinking brings out the "true you".  In my case, I'm extremely bipolar.  If I go over a limit, I could go from hugging people to swinging fists which is something I never liked about myself.  I often didn't know my limit and kept going where I should have stopped.  Hence why I spent many a night with a puke bucket near my bed.

I think as one gets older you tend to learn what their limit is when it comes to alcohol consumption.  I find there is a fine difference from being relaxed to having the damn room spin.  Thats the point when things go from fun to just uncomfortable.  If a person doesn't know their limit by a certain age then they sadly aren't a responsible human being to begin with.

Which brings me to this...show me statistics all you want of traffic deaths.  Not one human life is worth losing to drunk driving.  Why do people drive drunk?  Of course usually they're leaving a bar or club.  I personally have driven home a few times when I was over the limit.  However, I never getting so sh!t faced I was irresponsible behind the wheel. Unless I had a designated driver I always had that voice in the back of my head telling me to cut off at a certain point.  Sadly, too many people don't.  

Of course you could blame the bars or clubs that keep dishing out the drinks.   A lot of places would rather hear the ring of the cash register than to take responsiblity.  I went to bartending school and its made clear from the get go you can't judge people just because they're loud and obnoxious.  The old dude in the corner quietly drinking could be just as drunk as the coed dancing on the table.  I honestly feel a lot of places drop the ball when it comes to responsible bartending.  However as stated, sometimes you just  can't tell.  

Nowadays I drink very little.  I find I need to sleep it off and with three kids up at the crack of dawn its basically impossible.  
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