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« on: November 26, 2012, 12:57:06 PM »

Did anyone see this?

Here is my review for it. Lets just say this.... :-/

http://www.coolmovieguy.com/2012/11/movie-review-red-dawn-2012.html


I also did a smaller review of the original.

http://www.coolmovieguy.com/2012/11/mini-movie-review-red-dawn-1984.html
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« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2012, 07:21:28 PM »

I get a "not found" error message on both of those links.  Question
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« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2012, 12:59:37 PM »

My bad.  My site got screwed up a few days ago.  Here are the real links.

Red Dawn (2012)
http://www.coolmovieguy.com/2012/11/movie-review-red-dawn-2012_28.html

Red Dawn (1984) Mini Review(less than 300 words)
http://www.coolmovieguy.com/2012/11/mini-movie-review-red-dawn-1984_28.html
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« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2013, 11:46:35 AM »


I haven't seen the remake, but I hear that there was allegedly a need to "re-do" the movie to make the Koreans the bad guys and not the Chinese (there again, look who we owe money to...)

Anyhow, the original film (for me anyway) will always be the better one, fo rno such need for politically correct content existed as it does today.

Also, director John Milius created a bleak, cold and very uncertain world where the Wolverines were never safe, and every waking moment could be their last, and they were always on the run in a world where nowhere was safe.

Looking back, I think that Milius created an alternate version of the war against the Soviets that was going on in Afghanistan at the time.  To that end, he wanted to show Americans what we could have been facing if the situation was ripe enough, and that we could be in the place of the Afghan people if the circumstances were right.

I think he got it right.

 

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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2013, 12:32:27 PM »

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I haven't seen the remake, but I hear that there was allegedly a need to "re-do" the movie to make the Koreans the bad guys and not the Chinese (there again, look who we owe money to...)

Yep, when the movie was shot back in 2009 the bad guys were Chinese. Seems the Chinese government made a stink about that and since China nowadays represents a fairly large chunk of international box office, the studio digitally altered the villains' vehicles, uniforms, etc. so that they would be North Korean instead.
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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2013, 11:53:34 AM »

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I haven't seen the remake, but I hear that there was allegedly a need to "re-do" the movie to make the Koreans the bad guys and not the Chinese (there again, look who we owe money to...)

Yep, when the movie was shot back in 2009 the bad guys were Chinese. Seems the Chinese government made a stink about that and since China nowadays represents a fairly large chunk of international box office, the studio digitally altered the villains' vehicles, uniforms, etc. so that they would be North Korean instead.

North Korean, Chinese, all the same to me...just a bunch of Asian communists with Russian rifles.  (sorry to offend some here but that's the truth.) 

China interfered in the Korean War in the 50's and sent their troops to reinforce the ROK, so while the movie may need PC alteration for todays' climate, historically the Chinese are guilty by association.  End of story.

BTW-Anyone ever seen this recent movie called "Tomorrow, When The War Began"? It's a weak Red Dawn ripoff that you should avoid with all haste.
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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2013, 02:22:47 PM »

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North Korean, Chinese, all the same to me...just a bunch of Asian communists with Russian rifles.  (sorry to offend some here but that's the truth.) 

North Korea seems to be the only country that everyone "hates" nowadays so I guess it's "safer" for Hollywood to use them as bad guys.

...on the other hand, making that change was a pretty big wimp out. If the studio'd had any faith in the film in the first place, they would've said "Screw the Chinese and their box office" and left the movie as it was. 
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« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2013, 05:11:08 PM »

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North Korean, Chinese, all the same to me...just a bunch of Asian communists with Russian rifles.  (sorry to offend some here but that's the truth.) 

North Korea seems to be the only country that everyone "hates" nowadays so I guess it's "safer" for Hollywood to use them as bad guys.

...on the other hand, making that change was a pretty big wimp out. If the studio'd had any faith in the film in the first place, they would've said "Screw the Chinese and their box office" and left the movie as it was. 

Yeah, w\regard to wimp outs, I can't wait to see what they stir up over the new movie "Zero Dark Thirty" about the Bin Laden raid.  We've been hearing a lotof the usual stuff from the usual suspects, so this should be good...

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