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« on: August 29, 2013, 12:57:51 AM »

surely you still must be able to see there's a million miles between stuff like this (language warning)

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and stuff like this

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tracks like the first vid are what rap means now, and kind of makes me embarrassed to admit I listen to 'rap'. the 2nd vid is stuff I do like...

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« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2013, 03:58:16 PM »

Hey! To each his own,ya know? I'm not a rap fan although I used to kinda like DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince....guess it's a Will Smith thing. Wink

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« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2013, 07:50:38 PM »

I grew up in the city - everybody had boomboxes, everybody's favorite movie was Breakin' (1984)...

So I was around alot of early rap no doubt about it. 80's RUN DMC, LL COOL J, FATBOYS.

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In the 90's Vanilla Ice, SNOW, WUTANG CLAN, NWA...

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Now I listen to everything... rap wise I like Gucci Mane because of THE BAsssss.
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« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2013, 03:57:13 PM »

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yxbOsUtYNQ

... vid is stuff I do like...
I like that.  Though I think much current music is crap, I've always liked Rap and Hip hop...
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« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2013, 05:43:05 PM »

Ah, another chance to post my favorite modern rapper, Froggy Fresh. Let's see, what haven't I posted yet?

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Old school? This is prehistoric [NSFW: language]:

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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2013, 09:38:04 PM »

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Oookaay...


« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2013, 02:35:03 AM »

Hey! To each his own,ya know? I'm not a rap fan although I used to kinda like DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince....guess it's a Will Smith thing. Wink



Some of their stuff was cool. Jazzy Jeff made a really good album about 5 years ago. Will Smith...not my scene so much but hey   Smile


Now I listen to everything... rap wise I like Gucci Mane because of THE BAsssss.

not gonna lie...that is the kind of stuff I hate! But if you like Run DMc and WU TANG 90s stuff too then I know you've got taste so I won't argue Thumbup


I thought you would like some good stuff. Nobody beats the biz.

Ah, another chance to post my favorite modern rapper, Froggy Fresh. Let's see, what haven't I posted yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tQvHbxRoMg

Haha...This guy is actually better than 99% of rappers I hear on the radio now!
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« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2013, 07:05:37 PM »

I'm a metal dude, always have been, but when I was in high school in the mid 80s I had a job at a lumber yard and I was the only white kid on the crew. The rest of the guys I worked with were African-American and a couple of years older than me. The guy who drove the fork lift always had a HUGE boom box riding on the back with him, absolutely blasting stuff like Public Enemy, Schooly D, EPMD, Ice-T, etc., etc. -- y'know, the old school stuff. This would've been 1986-87.

MTV wasn't playing a lot of hip hop around this time Yo! MTV Raps" was a few years away yet) so at first this music was kinda terrifying to a white boy from the suburbs like me (especially Public Enemy, who had that whole paramilitary thing going on with their imagery and lyrics...haha)... but after hearing tracks like this all day every Saturday for a few months I couldn't help but start diggin' it. After a while I was even able to pick up some of the lyrics, which would crack up the other guys in the crew if they heard me muttering along with, say, "Miuzi Weighs A Ton" -- "Daaaaamn, you hear dis white boy droppin' some rhymes!"  

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It wasn't till a couple of years after this that Anthrax teamed up with Public Enemy and covered "Bring the Noise," .... and suddenly that made it OK for all the metal kids to dig P.E. -- I'd see kids at metal shows wearing Public Enemy shirts and was like "Pffft. Bunch of Johnny-come-latelies. I was hip to that sh*t FOUR YEARS AGO."  TeddyR
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Oookaay...


« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2013, 11:31:42 AM »

I'm a metal dude, always have been, but when I was in high school in the mid 80s I had a job at a lumber yard and I was the only white kid on the crew. The rest of the guys I worked with were African-American and a couple of years older than me. The guy who drove the fork lift always had a HUGE boom box riding on the back with him, absolutely blasting stuff like Public Enemy, Schooly D, EPMD, Ice-T, etc., etc. -- y'know, the old school stuff. This would've been 1986-87.

MTV wasn't playing a lot of hip hop around this time Yo! MTV Raps" was a few years away yet) so at first this music was kinda terrifying to a white boy from the suburbs like me (especially Public Enemy, who had that whole paramilitary thing going on with their imagery and lyrics...haha)... but after hearing tracks like this all day every Saturday for a few months I couldn't help but start diggin' it. After a while I was even able to pick up some of the lyrics, which would crack up the other guys in the crew if they heard me muttering along with, say, "Miuzi Weighs A Ton" -- "Daaaaamn, you hear dis white boy droppin' some rhymes!"  


lol, that whole scenario almost sounds like it could've been the premise for an 80s sitcom  TeddyR

metal and hip hop have a bigger connection than some people realise tbh... Kerry King from Slayer did a solo on beastie boys first album, Public Enemy sampled Slayer on 'She Watch Channel Zero' also... plus the PE/Anthrax collab you mentioned. there was a cool metal/rap band called The Goats who did some good stuff... rage against the machine's first album...etc etc

btw here's my hip hop/rap CD collection last year before I moved house. it's in storage now




that's all rap, got about the same amount of CDs again for 'other genres'... (yes I have a problem  Smile)
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« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2013, 10:53:32 PM »

Here I go again. 
I never was a huge BLONDIE fan, but a fan and I did like the band, and they are not only in my wheelhouse, I owned at least a few BLONDIE records on vinyl (now I only have Parallel Lines on CD upload).  BLONDIE peaked in (what?) 1979?  I think it was 1980 and the really great band BLONDIE was on "the skids" with their album AutoAmerican... one of the singles from such was "Rapture" which is one of my most favorite records, and I still think the first real presence of RAP on the American singles chart.  Please let me know who preceded BLONDIE; it fascinates me. 

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Oookaay...


« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2013, 11:16:07 AM »

The track that is generally recognised as the first ever rap track is 'Personality Jock' by Fatback Band. It's from 1979. There was obviously earlier groups doing stuff similar to rap like Last Poets that Rev posted, but that stuff is more like spoken word.

Whether that Blondie track came before it I don't know. Unlikely but possible...

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(The proper rapping bit comes in at 3:20)
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« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2013, 06:47:23 PM »

The track that is generally recognised as the first ever rap track is 'Personality Jock' by Fatback Band. It's from 1979. There was obviously earlier groups doing stuff similar to rap like Last Poets that Rev posted, but that stuff is more like spoken word.
Whether that Blondie track came before it I don't know. Unlikely but possible...
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"Rapture" went to #1 in the USA (Billboard Top 40) in February, 1981.  I know there are earlier records that Rap... uhm, but I was talking about Rap on the charts...   FATBACK BAND didn't chart any record in the USA (at least not higher than 41). 
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« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2013, 07:56:22 PM »

I mostly dig older rap and hip hop, like these
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However, there are newer artists I truly like.
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« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2013, 02:55:52 PM »

Here I go again.  
I never was a huge BLONDIE fan, but a fan and I did like the band, and they are not only in my wheelhouse, I owned at least a few BLONDIE records on vinyl (now I only have Parallel Lines on CD upload).  BLONDIE peaked in (what?) 1979?  I think it was 1980 and the really great band BLONDIE was on "the skids" with their album AutoAmerican... one of the singles from such was "Rapture" which is one of my most favorite records, and I still think the first real presence of RAP on the American singles chart.  Please let me know who preceded BLONDIE; it fascinates me.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SIRG0QOEkyM


Long time Blondie fan here. Say...did you ever listen to any of their 1999 album "No Exit"? It was a good one,especially the title track.


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« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2013, 12:56:44 PM »

    I don't dislike the form, per se....I also like DJJJ&TFP,  Whodini's "Haunted House Rap", and even my favorite artist, Todd Rundgren, has done rap on a couple albums.

     My problem is with the negativity, the anger, and the mangling of standard English, as it encourages similar behavior. Also, I don't understand glorifying a toxic environment like the ghetto; it's like Jews doing peans to Auschwitz, almost.
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