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« on: February 24, 2015, 04:40:48 AM »

In this website the main theme is, of course, good "bad" movies. In other words movies that even if bad from rational point of view (stupid cast choices, stupid scripts...) in some ways keep you entertained well.

In this topic, however, I would like to ask you if you feel that a "good" movie is actually bad, in other words movie that SHOULD be good, but failed to entertain you at all.

As rule of thumb, a "good" movie is something on the lines:
- 7 or more digits of dollar of budget;
- has at least two famous, at the moment of shooting, actors;
- received great reviews from the critics;
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For me the worst example is Signs [2002], it has Mel Gibson and the budget was a fairly good 72M$ and critics like it...
When I saw it I could not enjoy it at all. The plot makes no sense, the character ad unsympathetic and the aliens are completely idiots...
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« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2015, 04:49:46 AM »

Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (1989)

I don't hate it but always thought this was just "meh." I'm in the minority as I prefer Temple of Doom over Last Crusade.
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« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2015, 09:52:51 AM »

The Transformers movies are big budget action flicks that started off fair and went steadily down hill.
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« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2015, 10:07:42 AM »

Signs.  An alien race that's sole weakness is water comes to a planet that's like 70% Water.

Makes sense.
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« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2015, 04:19:17 PM »

Cocktail. Tom Cruise was the huge star of the moment but he's woefully miscast. It comes off like an American Psycho prequel
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« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2015, 04:34:51 PM »

if we're talking big budget + 'A List' cast + widespread critical acclaim,  then in my opinion there are 2 that really stand out for me: Heat and Shawshank Redemption



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« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2015, 06:12:26 PM »

Also, Swimfan the stalker girl is way hotter than the guys girlfriend. I kept thinking whats the problem here
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« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2015, 06:12:55 PM »

TREE OF LIFE and GRAVITY, for the same reason - I found them pandering and emotionally empty.


if we're talking big budget + 'A List' cast + widespread critical acclaim,  then in my opinion there are 2 that really stand out for me: Heat and Shawshank Redemption

OK, I'll bite. What didn't you like about HEAT? Aside from the subplot with Pacino's stepdaughter that didn't have any bearing on the main story I thought it was really good.
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« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2015, 06:19:18 PM »

GANGS OF NEW YORK and LAND OF THE LOST. Hatred
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« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2015, 07:26:10 PM »

"don't look now" donald sutherland and julie christie, 74, i think.
TERRIBLE movie! NOT scary in the least, completely nonsensical script,terrifically wooden acting and the kiss of death,a TRULY POINTLESS ENDING!
and this tripe was nominated for 8 BAFTA awards and actually WON 1!
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« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2015, 07:54:50 PM »

Super Bad  Didn't find it funny at all.

Napoleon Dynamite  Maybe it doesn't fit the mentioned criteria for a good movie, but I found it unfunny and really annoying.  Textbook example of why its nearly impossible to make a "cult" movie on purpose.

The Kick-@$$ movies.  I know a lot of people like them, but they are basically a giant middle finger to comic book fans/ superhero movies.   
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« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2015, 09:42:56 PM »

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OK, I'll bite. What didn't you like about HEAT? Aside from the subplot with Pacino's stepdaughter that didn't have any bearing on the main story I thought it was really good.
I found it non believable and self indulgent. The opening heist scene + getaway is laughable to me, with Pacino arriving and turning Colombo instantly, and yet that opening is possibly the highlight of the whole thing. Not a Pacino fan in any movie he's done, find him one of the hammiest actors. Too long and pointless subplots that go on forever.  Goodfellas and Casino are 2 of my all time fav movies, Heat just falls flat for me. It seems more like one massive long tv cop show episode than a movie.  I have friends who love it but I can't get into it
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« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2015, 05:00:09 AM »

Another one that baffles me: The Butterfly Effect (2004)

Critics hated it, but it was loved by the audience (amazing 7.7/10 IMDb rating). This is a pretty bad movie in a good movie disguise.
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« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2015, 08:29:57 AM »

I thought Dark City was laughable. all the leads were miscast, the plot was rehashed Twilight Zone and the whole tone was corny. I haven't seen it seince it came out maybe I'll watch it again.


Also, they aren't bad but Kids, Thirteen, and Do The Right Thing are really just glorified exploitation movies. Snobsploitation I call it, when critics love movies like that
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« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2015, 10:34:15 AM »

Not a Pacino fan in any movie he's done, find him one of the hammiest actors. Too long and pointless subplots that go on forever.  Goodfellas and Casino are 2 of my all time fav movies, Heat just falls flat for me. It seems more like one massive long tv cop show episode than a movie.  I have friends who love it but I can't get into it

See I found CASINO really self-indulgent, although I didn't hate it. How much a person likes HEAT does hinge quite a bit on how high their tolerance levels for Pacino are, so I can see your point there.


Also, they aren't bad but Kids, Thirteen, and Do The Right Thing are really just glorified exploitation movies. Snobsploitation I call it, when critics love movies like that
Never saw KIDS, and barely remember THIRTEEN, but I agree with you on DO THE RIGHT THING. It's certainly not CRASH-level bad or anything but it really felt like Lee was patting himself on the back just for pointing out that race issues exist, and he didn't present any possible solutions or even open up much of a dialogue. And it really didn't help that he cast himself in the lead.
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