Bad "good" movies

[zombie no.one]

See I found CASINO really self-indulgent, although I didn't hate it.

heh, strange... I'm normally the first to switch off when I think a film gets self indulgent but I find Casino gripping all the way through and have seen it multiple times. and I'm a big fan of Don't Look Now, mentioned above too. each to their own and all that 

[lester1/2jr]

Manos: The Hands of Fate

Critics loved it and it's star power made box office gold inevitable, but I thought it failed on EVERY level

that's right, I said it

[Ted C]

Star Trek: Into Darkness

So much.

[etmoviesb]

I didn't see it, it is really so bad?

[Ted C]

I didn't see it, it is really so bad?

As Akiratub put it: "Into Darkness was like having someone shout in your face for over two hours."

Thread on it: http://www.badmovies.org/forum/index.php/topic,142114.msg515116.html

[etmoviesb]

Some friends of mine say something similar, it was good I skipped it at the cinema. I did not like the previous movie too much either. Maybe I am too square, but the cast was too young. The original Kirk was already a genius, but that the new one actually become captain in two years is beyond being a genius, is ridiculous.

I also disliked the Kobayashi Maru interpretation. From the TOS (where the scene is unseen) I always thought Kirk studied the system and did some subtle alteration in order to win and hopefully not getting caught. Here it looks only an arrogant prick stating "I cheated, so I won. Cool me." like the idiots who cheat in the online games spoiling the fun of everyone and feeling cool. While they are only idiots.

[JaseSF]

To me, the Star Trek revamp was too much like Star Wars, more action-oriented and less thoughtful and reflective. I prefer Star Trek to be like Star Trek.

[etmoviesb]

For me the "The Dark Knight" falls in this category. It seems everyone loved it, the critics and the viewers... Instead I found it "meh," a soul-less movie.

What I loved of "Batman Begins" is that he message of the movie is: --look, with this story Batman almost makes sense.

In the sequel, everything is thrown out the window. The Joker has no story, makes no sense, and it is essentially all-powerful. But not because he's presented as extremely clever or manipulative... just he is.
A good example is in the prison, he planted a bomb in the guy. The bomb explodes and EVERYONE a part of the Joker and the victim he wanted die. Even the door opens! WHAT?!??

Dent, the second bad guy, should be a tragic hero becoming evil. He is also badly made, his fall is too fast and too melodramatic. At the end he fails to be sympathetic at all; I even wondered if he was useful to the movie as a whole.

And Batman, what the hell... sure he is a brooding hero. But in the movie it seems a whiner instead. To make things worse, the movie message seems to be: fighting crime is bad as criminals also have the right to do what they do. Or they become desperate.. poor them.

So, we got a boring all-powerful bad guy... how can possibly batman wins? Lets give him a totally preposterous technological device to see everything through walls. Of course it is too powerful to make another sequel, so lets destroy it at the end in name of some broken moral issue.

Sure the fighting scenes are nice and there are some nice things, but still I cannot comprehend why so many people love this movie.

[JaseSF]

The problem with Nolan's films to me is Batman in them feels a bit too much like Iron Man. The newer Star Wars films also feel a bit too much like Star Trek to me.

[crackers]

This may rub people on here the wrong way, but I really didn't like Inception. I just didn't enjoy it. I even watched it 4 times to see if I was missing something, but no.

[etmoviesb]

I kinda agree with you about Inception. Even I kinda liked it, I think it is overrated; it is just "mmn... cute".
Definitely not mind provoking, it seems the director wanted to make the story clear as possible: for example every "dream level" has a different color and style and most of the tension is lost just remembering that.. well, it is all a dream.