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« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2015, 02:55:28 PM »

Obviously, this film was made for those of us who do not have Trevor's taste or perception, including myself, which is why I am planning on seeing it, when it opens here in the U.S. Though, I do appreciate the questions that Trevor asked, and I'll try to keep them in mind, as I said, when I see it, when it opens here in the U.S.
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« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2015, 08:24:50 PM »

I'm going to see it this afternoon, being in Australia and it having opened a few days ago.  A few others have seen it and they are not raving about it like the first Avengers, interestingly.  But I remain optimistic.
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« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2015, 08:02:23 PM »

Having seen the movie, I can kind of understand why Trevor walked out, although I didn't want to.  The first Avengers movie is simply better.  I'm finding it hard to specify exactly why it's better, but it just is. 

There is character and relationship development which seems almost out of place in what ought to be a straight-up no-brain-required action movie.  Perhaps they thought this would add depth to the characters; even so, I feel that the development could have been handled different, somehow.  The relationship in the Iron Man series was handled better, IMO.  The AoU relationship felt a bit more pasted in rather than something integral to the plot.

I didn't feel as emotionally invested in this story than other Marvel movies, despite the overt use of relationships and family themes.  Maybe it's because it was overt that I didn't feel that draw. 

Don't get me wrong.  This is a very enjoyable popcorn movie.  Lots of inventive and breathtaking action, and the CGI must have taken a small town full of servers to render.  Quite a few quips. rejoinders and scenes that had the audience laughing very hard, especially the Hulkbuster armour.  Now THAT was very cool.  Not sure how they are going to top the Hulkbuster in terms of sheer coolness.

The post-credits scene is after the initial director and actor credits, so you don't have to stick around until the curtain closes after that scene has run.

Movies at this level are never 'bad', as in of poor quality.  The direction, cinematography and all other technical aspects are always top notch.  Whether the movie is superlative is a matter of execution.  Marvel movies I liked more than Age of Ultron include the first Avengers, Iron Man, Captain America Winter Soldier, and Thor.  These movies engaged me at an emotional level that Age of Ultron unfortunately didn't.

Is it worth seeing in the cinema?  Yeah.  On the big screen it is spectacular.  Will you come out of it absolutely screaming for the third movie?  That's up to you.
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« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2015, 04:08:10 PM »

My friend Chris and I at the premiere last night.  Smile Smile




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« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2015, 01:20:59 AM »

My friend Chris and I at the premiere last night.  Smile Smile




I've never seen anyone wear a suit and tie to a movie theater before.

Yeah, Chris looks good, doesn't he?  Wink TeddyR

Well, it was a premiere, so... Smile
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« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2015, 06:34:54 AM »

Obviously, this film was made for those of us who do not have Trevor's taste or perception, including myself


That's the first time anyone's said that I have taste in movies.  Wink

I just reacted very badly to that 9/11 inspired scene - you will know it when you see it - and went and walked around this place www.montecasino.co.za for about an hour. I went back in about 15 minutes before the end. I liked the 2012 film which was funny, action filled and everything else you need from a film like Archivist said.

Having said that, I unfortunately didn't care for it but don't let that put you off seeing it!

One plus point: the Il Grande Theater where I saw it is an incredible place indeed with a huge curved screen and great sound. Unfortunately, Chris and I sat in the middle and if you sat there, you would have some guys' bald head blocking out a small part of the screen. Buggedout Buggedout  TeddyR


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« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2015, 02:37:10 PM »

Well, whatever we may think of it. Those who have already seen it. Those of us who plan on seeing it. And those who have no plans of ever seeing it.

$202 million so far and counting. And, that is better than they expected. And it has yet to open in the U.S., where . . .?!

The opening gross is expected to be $180 to $200 million,
and it is expected to earn a total gross of $550 and $575 million.

nor in China, where . . .?!

it is expected to earn a total gross in the neighborhood of $300 million.

That $202 million, while there has yet to be a country, where it opened, that it has not opened at #1, 25% of which was earned in just 2 countries.

In Korea, where . . .?!
it had an record opening among all films opened there.

and in the U.K., where . . .?!
it had a higher opening than the original "Avengers."

And the total . . .?!
If expected $1.575 billion.
35.7% domestic gross.
64.3% international gross

Still . . .?!
That percentage of domestic gross is higher than the average American film, as last year or 2014, the average American film earned 72% of its gross overseas. Yes, we Americans are becoming less and less important, when it comes to films.

Still . . .?!
The money is not in ticket sales, but . . .? in the junk (ah, merchandise) that the ticket buyer buys after he or she has seen the film.
For example, in the U.K., where an American-style Halloween has become big recently. Can you see all the little Thors and Ironmen and Hawkeyes running around. And that's just the girls. No! But . . .?! It does show the potential and importance of merchandise sales, which can exceed the take at the box office.

As for profit . . .?!
If all the above holds true, and there is no surety that it will, the pure profit is expected to be one third of the total gross or somewhere around $547.5 million or $17.30 for ever second, since the start of this year to the end of this year. (Nice work. If you can get it.)

As for Joss Whedon . . .?
He was offered the directorship of the next in the "Avengers" series, but turned it down, as he said, he wanted to take some time off and create something, instead of directing something that someone else has created. Therefore, the next two films in the "Avengers" series are expected to be helmed by the Russo Brothers. One brother taking one film, and the other brother taking the other film.

Finally, . . .?!
As for those complaints about the story, that is not the first I heard that, which I think is "Interesting!"  As, actually, I like story in my films. The more complex and complicated the better. That is, if it is done well, which it is not often done, and clear, which is not often the case. Still . . .?! I might have more to say about that, after I see the film.

P.S.

And, oh ye-s! Say hello to your new Spiderman. Asa Butterfield. Who is the odds on favorite for the role, and is expected to appear in "Captain America : Civil War." A teenage Spiderman . . .!? I like that, for, at least in the comics, I find the teenage Spiderman a much more interesting character than the adult Spiderman.
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« Reply #22 on: May 01, 2015, 04:54:42 PM »

That $202 million is now $255 million, or, more than it cost to make the film, if the figure holds, and that is before opening weekend in the U.S., where the film took in $27.6 million Thursday night, or, more than any Marvel film to date and the 6th best Thursday opening. And, if you wondered what 5 films, opened better on Thursday night, as I did they were, in order . . .

1. Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallow, Part II
2. The Dark Knight Rises
3. Twilight Saga : Breaking Dawn, Part II
4. Twilight Saga : Breaking Dawn, Part I
5. Twilight Saga : Eclipse

And we wonder, why there are sequels, and why they break films into two parts?

Thursday night's opening numbers have pushed up the weekend box office gross, by some estimates, to over $300 million.

Here the demand to see the film this weekend is reaching insane portions.

The local urban cinema, in the downtown area, where I live, where I sometimes see a film, when I don't see it at the local suburban cinema in the strip mall, which I prefer, because it has dollar hot dogs, is dedicating 3 of its screens to the film, with 17 showings, showing on alternating screens. The first show beginning at 9:20 a.m. Saturday and the last showing beginning at 1:00 a.m. Sunday morning. And that is only in 2D. There are 11 showings in 3D, during the same time period, on two alternating screens.

And the local drive-in (yes, we still have a drive-in theater in the area in which I live) which normally shows 2 different films on its 2 screens, is dedicating both screens to this film. And, while the film is suggested for 13 and over, those who have children 12 and under, and want to see the film as a family, my suggestion is to see it at the drive-in.

Of course, you can see the film and eat it, too. There are now a Black Widow Parfait, a Captain America Shield Cookie (hopefully, not as big as the shield) and an Iron Man shaped waffle with edible glitter + an Iron Man helmet-shaped collector's cup + a poster for $10.00, which you can buy at the pizza place in Fantasyland in Disneyland.

Next time: a review
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« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2015, 01:39:32 PM »

I saw it today.  Good but not great.  I loved the Scarlet Witch.  Ultron didn't seem to be a big enough threat.  Not enough Nick Fury.  I rate it about 78 on a scale of 100, as opposed to the first Avengers movie, which I'd rate about a 92.
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« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2015, 03:13:16 PM »

I watched it yesterday.  I think Burgomaster's overall rating is about right.    It tried to do too much, for me.

The first film is upbeat, energetic, and has some real threats in it.  (That scene in which Natasha recruits Banner is tense!  Loved it!)
Also, you have Loki as an enemy - so engaging, charismatic, and complicated a villain in his way.

So Ultron wasn't going to be able to measure up, as a villain, compared to Loki... and the overall glut of arcs and characters to handle did bog the movie down and make it breathless by comparison to the first.

I still enjoyed Age of Ultron quite well.  :)
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« Reply #25 on: May 02, 2015, 08:46:08 PM »

I haven't seen it, yet, but the general consensus I've heard is that's it's a decent placeholder until the next one, in which Thanos will finally have all the Infinity Gems and is a 2-part film.

I should be seeing it sometime in the next few days. 
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« Reply #26 on: May 03, 2015, 10:01:50 AM »

Haven't seen Ultron yet but the comments about the next Avengers film and building up Thanos, well, how can you build a character up who has done NOTHING yet? I mean they're trying to build him up and make him into some big threat but it'd be nice if it involved more than him in a floating chair to be honest.
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« Reply #27 on: May 06, 2015, 02:03:19 AM »

I saw it today.  Good but not great.  I loved the Scarlet Witch.  Ultron didn't seem to be a big enough threat.  Not enough Nick Fury. 

My thoughts exactly.  Smile

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« Reply #28 on: May 06, 2015, 02:05:55 AM »

It tried to do too much, for me.

The first film is upbeat, energetic, and has some real threats in it.  (That scene in which Natasha recruits Banner is tense!  Loved it!)
Also, you have Loki as an enemy - so engaging, charismatic, and complicated a villain in his way.

That is why I was looking forward to this after seeing the 2012 film: I was quite disappointed. Other than seeing Johannesburg getting trashed, it was OK but not great. At least all I had to pay for was my parking and the snack I had.
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« Reply #29 on: May 06, 2015, 10:07:06 PM »

Believe it or not, Joss Whedon has deleted his Twitter account because angry feminists have been bombarding it with criticisms of Black Widow.  Yes, that's right, the ultra-feminists have forced Joss to delete his Twitter account over a comic book character.  Look it up and facepalm.

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/movies/avengers-age-of-ultron-director-joss-whedon-quits-twitter-after-sexist-backlash/story-e6frfmvr-1227337971744

Okay, Joss denies that the militant feminist idiocy made him leave Twitter, but heck, the amount of crazy vitriol those people spout is literally insane.

http://screenrant.com/joss-whedon-avengers-ultron-twitter-exit-explanation/
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