Who should be the next president?

[Allhallowsday]

So far... Obama's saying stuff that white policemen are naturally racist are getting police officers killed!  ...

Horse hockey.  OBAMA never said anything remotely close to that road apple.  

[Skull]

So far... Obama's saying stuff that white policemen are naturally racist are getting police officers killed!  ...

Horse hockey.  OBAMA never said anything remotely close to that road apple.  

"But a combination of bad training, in some cases, a combination in some cases of departments that really are not trying to root out biases, or tolerate sloppy police work; a combination in some cases of folks just not knowing any better, and in a lot of cases, subconscious fear of folks who look different — all of this contributes to a national problem that's going to require a national solution."

Obama's own words!

[Please don't be so damn lazy - listen to him when he speaks.]

What would be your process for determining who started the riot?
The one who gave an inflammatory speech, or the one who threw the first brick? 

There is this little thing called the First Amendment.

The First Amendment don't give me the right to scream "Bomb!" when I'm inside an airport.

We have months of audio on black lives matter screaming 'kill the police' or 'fry them up like bacon' this is not free speech this is inciting a riot.

[flackbait]

Oh jeez, this is..this is just wrong. I seriously hope you aren't that serious, that there is tin foil level conspiracy.

Tin foil? Like the FBI saying Hillary did no wrong with her Secret Server even thought it was AGAINST THE LAW TO HAVE A SECRET SERVER. How about this one... did you know that the top secret server cannot send emails to any place, the emails had to removed from the source *thumb drive* to another computer so Hillary can receive them to a secret server... oh but that's tin foil... 

Obama wanted to win 2nd term and he pull everything he can to get that win. The Ferguson shooting was an opportunity to jump on (aka never let a good crisis go to waste).

I can't tell you how much I want Rev to lock this thread for fear that this is going to end with a giant fight.

I don't see any fighting here... If you don't want to reply then don't.

It's all Obamas fault that the media would milk something out for profit, isn't it?

No... It's Obama fault for saying the bulls**t he said. All the media does is repeat what Obama said.

And by saying that it's Obama's fault, aren't you trying to push for Trump's plan then, by bad mouthing a group we know you hate? This is just....UGH.

Maybe you can prove me that I'm wrong...

Skull correct me if I'm mistaken here but didn't Obama already start his second term after the Ferguson shooting took place? I could be wrong I've been drinking a bit(well a liiiiitle bit more than a bit!)!

[Leah]

Skull correct me if I'm mistaken here but didn't Obama already start his second term after the Ferguson shooting took place? I could be wrong I've been drinking a bit(well a liiiiitle bit more than a bit!)!

He started in 2012, Ferguson was 2014.

[Skull]

Oh my mistake it didn't seem like 2 years ago... Sorry I forgot about Trayvon Martin and the 'White Hispanic' George Zimmerman... And I do believe media/Obama did there best to make Zimmerman white.

And lets not forget 2009; Obama said:  "the Cambridge police acted stupidly" [And he shouldn't be saying things like this - and the arrest of Gates seemed correct because he being disorderly during an investigation of a 911 call.]

[Rev. Powell]

So far... Obama's saying stuff that white policemen are naturally racist are getting police officers killed!  ...

Horse hockey.  OBAMA never said anything remotely close to that road apple.  

"But a combination of bad training, in some cases, a combination in some cases of departments that really are not trying to root out biases, or tolerate sloppy police work; a combination in some cases of folks just not knowing any better, and in a lot of cases, subconscious fear of folks who look different — all of this contributes to a national problem that's going to require a national solution."

Obama's own words!

[Please don't be so damn lazy - listen to him when he speaks.]

The quote you supplied from Obama says that many (not all) officers have subconscious biases (not outright racism) against blacks, which is quite reasonable and to me sounds very different than "white officers are naturally racist." I think that not addressing the racial issue at all would have been disingenuous and would have earned him far more criticism than his carefully measured response here did.

[Skull]

The quote you supplied from Obama says that many (not all) officers have subconscious biases (not outright racism) against blacks, which is quite reasonable and to me sounds very different than "white officers are naturally racist." I think that not addressing the racial issue at all would have been disingenuous and would have earned him far more criticism than his carefully measured response here did.

That would be great if the topic wasn't about the outrage of a white police officer shooting a young black man. Even thought the fact was a police officer had to shot a thug because the thug was going for the police officer's gun.

I would like to know 'where is this bad training he's talking about?' 'What department that cannot root out biases?' 'Who is willing to hide sloppy police work?' 'Who is he talking about as folks not knowing any better?' and Obama said IN A LOT OF CASES (which seemed to suggest that these events are not SMALL) "subconscious fear of folks who look different"


Sorry but everything Obama said suggest that the police department is racist because of flawed training and it's going to require the federal government to fix this. Even thought the police department is a state and local issue (not a fed issue).

[Allhallowsday]

[RCMerchant]

I really don't think the cops who shot these UNARMED folks are racist-I think waaay back in their youth-they were either-
A. Bullys
Or B. Kids with an inferiority complex who became cops because it stroked their dicks.
And they kill blacks because-well-nobody will call them to task-cuz their black,ya know?
that being sed-
I ain't sorry for starting this thread-I think folks NEED to talk about politics-I dunno if this was the right place to talk about it-but-why not? Were among freinds.
Fact is-trying to convince folks who are flat out NOT gonna listen to anything you say-and that includes me-is like expecting a monkey to expect you to like the taste of his p**s.



He may think it tastes like ambrosia-but others think its just yer monkey p**s.

(I was trying to find a dog eating his own s**t-but I found this-and the analogy had to be slighty changed- cuz that is a funny picture!  )

[Allhallowsday]

[HappyGilmore]

I can't see voting Clinton or Trump this election.

I'm glad I'm a Libertarian.  Johnson may not win it...but I honestly don't see it as a wasted vote.  I don't think Clinton or Trump would do ANY good for this place.

[RCMerchant]

NOW this is a debate I wanna see-! monkeys p**sing and cats s**tting! 

[Allhallowsday]

NOW this is a debate I wanna see-! monkeys p**sing and cats s**tting! 

You are such a dumb-ass.  You da man. 

[HappyGilmore]

Not really about presidents, but about the constitution, and the 2nd Amendment.  "I've never heard of "Protection rifles." 
http://youtu.be/0rR9IaXH1M0
http://youtu.be/a9UFyNy-rw4

Seems appropriate lately.

[RCMerchant]

NOW this is a debate I wanna see-! monkeys p**sing and cats s**tting! 

You are such a dumb-ass.  You da man. 

Thank ya-thank ya vera much. For my next act I will juggle 10 plates on the end of my dick!