Who should be the next president?

[Skull]

The debate was dissappointing. Trumps performance was off, he just didnt seem like himself. He should have destroyed her, its like he just stood there and let her stab him repeatedly. It seemed like he was holding back, maybe he was saving ammunition for later. She even referenced a lot of her own scandals. Very odd. I do think it showed some. Of their real personalities though. One could argue that he showed some restraint and she clearly enjoyed attacking him,  did you see that evil jackolantern face?

I think the debate went better than estimated. The proof is Trumps numbers is still growing and Hillary and the Media is pulling stuff out of there butts. (The point of the debate is to gain more support - therefore Trump wins.)


I do think Hillary and the Media want Trump to pull Bill Clinton's sexual past - so Hillary could say "My husband is not running for President and Right Wing Conspiracy." I think Trump is doing well by not going this direction. I do think it was awesome that Trump brought out Hillary's Emails.

We also seemed to forget that the debate was Hillary and the moderator vs Trump - the beautiful part is the American people saw this.

[Jim H]

The proof is Trumps numbers is still growing and Hillary and the Media is pulling stuff out of there butts. (The point of the debate is to gain more support - therefore Trump wins.)

What numbers specifically are you referring to?  Rally numbers?

[Allhallowsday]

I think the debate went better than estimated...

Particularly his sniffling.  Which you did not witness.   

We also seemed to forget that the debate was Hillary and the moderator vs Trump - the beautiful part is the American people saw this.

We did?   

[kakihara]

Skull - i agree with you. The debate, as biased as it was, went well. Many things were very obvious. Hillary got very few follow up questions or fact checks compared to trump. He was constantly talked over and cut off, i know he also tends to talk over people.  I cant lie, i really do want to see trump attack hillary and humiliate her, but i dont think that would help him win.  I expect him to really go at her at some point, its in his nature.   I think him talking about jobs was a very important issue to most people. The media is looking more desperate every day, his taxes? Who cares? Microphone issues? He was ridiculed at first, then officials admitted to it! The compression on his mike was way to high, that is why his sniffles were so audible! Im going to watch the vp debate, it will probably be boring.

[bob]

100 pages........holy s**t 

[Skull]

The proof is Trumps numbers is still growing and Hillary and the Media is pulling stuff out of there butts. (The point of the debate is to gain more support - therefore Trump wins.)

What numbers specifically are you referring to?  Rally numbers?

Numbers that I've been hearing on the news. The Rally numbers are big, too... :)

When I was driving to home from work yesterday, I've was listening to Rawdog 99 and decided to listen to the other comedy station and some how got to 102, 103, or something and caught a political contaminator saying that even though Trump lost the debate the poll numbers suggest otherwise. I'm not sure about the guy but it was awesome to hear... (I'm hoping Rush talks about this on his show today).

I think the debate went better than estimated...

Particularly his sniffling.  Which you did not witness.   

We also seemed to forget that the debate was Hillary and the moderator vs Trump - the beautiful part is the American people saw this.

We did?   

Well you did mentioned you're a Sanders supporter and since you never answered our questions about your feelings towards towards the DNC and Hillary for screwing Sanders and his voters over... So I just don't know if you are blind to blatant cheating. 

Skull - i agree with you. The debate, as biased as it was, went well. Many things were very obvious. Hillary got very few follow up questions or fact checks compared to trump. He was constantly talked over and cut off, i know he also tends to talk over people.  I cant lie, i really do want to see trump attack hillary and humiliate her, but i dont think that would help him win.  I expect him to really go at her at some point, its in his nature.   I think him talking about jobs was a very important issue to most people. The media is looking more desperate every day, his taxes? Who cares? Microphone issues? He was ridiculed at first, then officials admitted to it! The compression on his mike was way to high, that is why his sniffles were so audible! Im going to watch the vp debate, it will probably be boring.

Yes, yes I would love to see Trump crush Hillary... but I think it's more important for Trump to win the support from the never trumpers. The never trumpers don't want to see Trump crushing Hillary. I'm not sure why but I doubt people like Indy would give a damn if Trump tore Hillary a new a***ole.


I had not watched the VP debates but I heard that Mike Pence won... and in some cases he seemed to look better then Trump. I'm perfectly fine with this because the intent is to please those never trumpers.

Something to think about. I do think Reagan's biggest mistake was having George Bush his VP. The only reason why because the Bush's were part of the establishment and they did spend 30 freaking years in destroying conservatism. What is really nice to know that Trump didn't make the same mistake as Reagan. Pence is going to make an awesome VP and maybe President :)

100 pages........holy s**t 

lol... This thread will end in November :)

[lester1/2jr]

from what I understand Pence bested Kaine, not that VP debates are hugely significant. He let a lot of trump supporters down with his relatively stale positions on foreign policy, trade, etc though.  The combination of joy and disappointment was palpable. I don't know many Trump supporters or Republicans period who agree with him on Assad. The guy is fighting ISIS I mean come on dude it's not 2003.

[Allhallowsday]

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I think the debate went better than estimated...

Particularly his sniffling.  Which you did not witness.   

We also seemed to forget that the debate was Hillary and the moderator vs Trump - the beautiful part is the American people saw this.

We did?   

Well you did mentioned you're a Sanders supporter and since you never answered our questions about your feelings towards towards the DNC and Hillary for screwing Sanders and his voters over... So I just don't know if you are blind to blatant cheating. 
...

That's right.  You don't know. 
"...our questions"?     You mean ULTHAR's questions?  That's between he and I.  And I don't think you can formulate a question, my friend.   

[Skull]

That's right.  You don't know.  
"...our questions"?    You mean ULTHAR's questions?  That's between he and I.  And I don't think you can formulate a question, my friend.  

LOL I wasn't asking a question... :)

I do know you were a Sanders supporter....

And I do know (because it's been posted on this thread several times) that Wiki leaks posted leaks on the DNC/Hillary screwing over Sanders and Sanders voters... [on the side note the guy that hacked the DNC was murdered a few days after - but it came out as a mugging  ].

Anyway... I know I would be upset - but I'm not a democrat - so all I can do is assume. I don't know if your blind to blatant cheating or you do like blatant cheating, because the cheaters are democrats. :)

[bob]

This is the first time since I've been old enough to vote that I'm not even remotely excited for any candidate left standing. 

I backed Bernie and I'm peeved that the DNC screwed him over to put him mildly.

[Allhallowsday]

That's right.  You don't know.  
"...our questions"?    You mean ULTHAR's questions?  That's between he and I.  And I don't think you can formulate a question, my friend.  

LOL I wasn't asking a question... :)

I do know you were a Sanders supporter....

And I do know (because it's been posted on this thread several times) that Wiki leaks posted leaks on the DNC/Hillary screwing over Sanders and Sanders voters... [on the side note the guy that hacked the DNC was murdered a few days after - but it came out as a mugging  ].

Anyway... I know I would be upset - but I'm not a democrat - so all I can do is assume. I don't know if your blind to blatant cheating or you do like blatant cheating, because the cheaters are democrats. :)

 Deflection at it's finest.  No wonder you support Trumpet.  Of course you didn't ask a question.   You're not good at holding a thought either.

As far as my being a Bernie supporter, I am and have long crowed my politics tend so far left they come right again.  As far as the DNC mess I don't need to waste my own energy and time by inviting stress with the horrors the whole world pulls on each other all the time.  I can only contribute to change by voting.  The whole system is rotten and your candidate is one result.  We shall see what the new year brings.  Whoever our president is at that time, I will always support our president regardless of party.  

[bob]

[Zapranoth]

Sir knight!

I have p**sed my pants, and there is nothing anyone can do about it!

[Trevor]

Sir knight!

I have p**sed my pants, and there is nothing anyone can do about it!

[Skull]

As far as my being a Bernie supporter, I am and have long crowed my politics tend so far left they come right again.  As far as the DNC mess I don't need to waste my own energy and time by inviting stress with the horrors the whole world pulls on each other all the time.  I can only contribute to change by voting.  The whole system is rotten and your candidate is one result.  We shall see what the new year brings.  Whoever our president is at that time, I will always support our president regardless of party.  

I didn't vote for Sanders but I am bothered by this cheating. I think we got a month to go :)